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Unironically a classic
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>i'm so bad with women i needed a book on how to be a man

lol, gay
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are we sure this manlet isn't a homosexual?
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>>24935966
Yes and for that market it's a very informative read
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Good on him for finishing his autobiography
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>>24935973
no, it's psycho shit. psycho shit you'll immediately disregard the moment a pretty girl smiles and extends her hand to you.

i get thinking of women as the lesser sex, but this DARK TRIAD PERSUASION ALPHA CONTROL TECHNIQUE shit is just ridiculous.

i also feel like a large percentage of these awkward incel types are literally just retards with no self-awareness, who think they deserve a woman who looks like she came out of a vogue catalog, or something. like bro, you don't even shower and shave everyday, and your shirt has dog hair all over it.. but it's still supermodel or bust? KEK

women are naturally empathic and forgiving and overlook so many of our faults, so it's not like an attractive mate isnt within the grasp of the vast majority of men. i don't even get it. i used to work at dennys and smoke fentanyl, and i had a slew of attractive, intelligent girlfriends before i married. but for some reason you fuckin' incels think you're entitled to the top .0001 of women. shit's insane.
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>no mention of verification criterion or predicate binaries
>no quine or leibniz or fichte namedrops
>rationality
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>>24935999
Why are you so emotionally reactive to this work?

This book does not teach that you're capable of pulling Vogue models but allows you to consider the dynamic of the sexual marketplace so you can manoeuvre better when communicating with others.

Speaking personally the information is not disregarded when engaging with a pretty woman because it explains biological principles that reside at the root of our behaviour. Pick-up artistry is cheap and the contrary to 'high value' behaviour
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>>24935920
Tautology
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>>24935966
Rape
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>>24936013
i'm human, human's have emotions. if you weren't a cold, calculating autistic person you'd realize that. also boiling everythinig down to 20th century ideas of biology and evolutionary psychology is super fuckin' inhuman.

maybe you do need the book, nevermind. carry on, gentlemen.
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>>24936021
raping them would probably be more psychologically healthy for you than reading this retarded manual.
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>>24936061
it's not a manual it's a study on human nature that transcends pick up artistry
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>>24935966
I bought it years ago for the meme, only recently looked inside. It reads exactly how you'd expect it would, the author clearly never spoke to a woman and overcomplicates every interaction with them.
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>>24935999
Incels, ironically enough have loads of self-awareness.
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>>24936055
I kind of wish they didn't
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>>24936388
except for the ones with autism and with racism which are disproportionately represented among incels
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>>24936505
Just stop being offended. Its okay, the world doesn't revolve around you, roastie. You are a means to an end. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>24936055
>also boiling everythinig down to 20th century ideas of biology and evolutionary psychology
You're right, humanity doesn't boil down to evolpsych. Evol psych however is valid because it looks at humans under PRESSURE, when humans are stressed and revert to basic primitive needs, this is how they behave
It sounds like you yourself know these observations, keep it in the back of your mind and have benefitted. Which is how the red pill is supposed to be done. it's not about looking down on women, rather its recognising that our expectations of them is misguided, just like how womens expectations of us are too.
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>24937488
>aspie bigot chimps out
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>>24937488
for the record I just need to clarify the person crying about racism was not me, the original dude who sperged out about this book. I dislike brown people more than I dislike this incel how-to manual.

>>24937506
I haven't even read the book. I just have a deep fucking disdain for ”manosphere" factory and pickup artistry. I'm not letting some queer in a v neck shirt and $400 bespoke leather workboots that have never seen mud tell me how to be a man, or wax on about what it takes to get a piece of ass.
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>>24937845
>factory

Faggotry*
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>>24937845
you will never get bespoke leather work boots for $400
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>>24937845
Fair but women actually do piss me off not because I haven't had relationships but because i have.
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>>24937845
based
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>>24937845
OP here.

This book is less a book on pickup artistry and more an explanation of intersexual dynamics and how women perceive men from an unconscious, unavoidable biological viewpoint.

The information presented in this book is not about peacocking and pickup lines but about hypergamy and effective communication that exists outside of the world of pickup.
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>>24937845
>I haven't even read the book. I just have a deep fucking disdain for ”manosphere" factory and pickup artistry. I'm not letting some queer in a v neck shirt and $400 bespoke leather workboots that have never seen mud tell me how to be a man, or wax on about what it takes to get a piece of ass.
You could have meaningfully replied to my post but instead you went on another bitchy tirade. You seem like a homo desu
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>>24937883
so it's like the art of war but for women?
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>>24937907

Basically.

Understanding where you reside within the sexual value marketplace in relation to her and how you can (if you can) manoeuvre to communicate more efficiently, if it's worth it at all.

I've seen a few react in 'red pill rage' once reading the content of this book as it raises an honest mirror to what you're truly worth to the feminine gaze instead of the fairytale your parents and society have told you to believe.

But alike the Art of War, to know oneself and know the opposition is the be all and end all.
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>>24937883
i’d rather take pickup. it’s stupid but at least it’s only going off anecdotal stats, they’re not making themselves bigger than they are. last thing anyone needs is a darwinian psychosexual biology book written by a fundamentally flawed borderline retarded guy who looks like >>24935970
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>>24937889
you're reading self-help books from masculinity gurus over an insecurity of your perceived shortcomings as a man and failure to acquire pussy.

>>24937953
>what you're truly worth to the feminine gaze
>know the opposition

this is the crux of it all for me. these books are literal slop for downtrodden losers who have come to despise women for not giving them the attention they think they deserve. women are not your opposition or enemy, they're just women, and rather than crying salty tears into the pages of your horseshit psychological manipulation manual you should be trying to improve yourself through natural, time tested and self-evident means like fixing your personal faults that turn people away. bad hygiene? trim your nails, shave, take a bath. overweight? eat less and exercise. dull as a bag of hair an unable to hold a conversation? read some books, follow current events, have some personal interests and hobbies you can talk about. socially awkward? put your self into more social situations until you're less anxious and able to engage people with less difficulty. the shit ain't rocket science, and framing the entire male/female dynamic as a warlike struggle where you must overcome the will of another is just fucking insane and pathetic. the shit ain't rocket science. i completely understand viewing women as either objects of pleasure or viable long term partners, but even in the realm of sexual conquest this shit is just absurd and frankly harmful to your psyche/soul.

women can smell this manipulative, cretinous behavior a mile away, and they only overlook it if you appeal to them in some way. this is why the attractive guy, the rich guy, and the charismatic interesting guy get to fuck and you don't. they have something to offer, and you don't.
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>>24938053
Yes generally men interested in Red Pill philosophy come from a background of insecurity i agree, but understanding the very real economics of relationships is not manipulative and allow you progress onto being a better man before pedestalizing women because you know no better.

Most men make believe theres 'the one' for them, most men believe misery is a component of a marriage, most men inadvertently lead their partners into falling in love with their friends and/or enemies because they live in la-la land then compulsively repeat the pattern again and again down to naivety.
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>>24938129
>red pill this, red pill that
>my girl (theoretical as of now btw) is gonna fuck my friend jared if i dont read this self-help book!

since you speak in memes and buzzwords, i'll respond in kind: touch grass, lil nigga, you are being misled by other non-ass getting losers theorizing and pontificating about the innate natures of men and women.
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>>24938146
Married women pay me money from their joint bank account outside their husbands awareness so don't worry about what I do and don't know about the female mind.
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>>24938157
so you're basically a nigerian romance scammer who parlayed the knowledge accumulated from this book into bilking lonely middle aged women on dating sites? kek
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>>24938129
>economics of relationships
This is so spiritually brown I don't even know where to start.

I guess it stems from the fact you subhumans literally treat women as commodities and lend your sisters to get raped your cousins friends in exchange for opium. A common occurrence in Uttar Pradesh and other africa tier shitholes.
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The only thing you need is Ovid's Ars Amatoria.
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>>24935920
Didn’t he get btfo by destiny (lol!) out of all people and couldn’t defend a single one of his claims with evidence against him?
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>>24938164
No, just if you can't fulfil the void in her psychology and I can then you have a big problem in your relationship don't you? Basic sales. Especially when what I can provide to her is priceless.
I made a comment on my understanding in reference to your 'non-ass' getting comment. You won't learn how to stimulate the infinite feminine imagination like that from this book. It's just a good read

>>24938178
The economics of relationships derive from genuine biological pecking orders, it's why you say yes sir to your boss and so the women in the vicinity identify you as being of lesser status therefore less potential of a valuable mate..

>>24938241
I haven't watched him on any podcasts and whatnot. I doubt they're much quality. I'm not too bothered about him as a person as I am in saying this book does contain some very enlightening food for thought
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>>24938265
>I'm not too bothered about him as a person as I am in
a book is a conversation with the author. always. man is the measure of all things.
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>>24938265
4chan needs to rangeban indians already good god what a pathetic post
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>>24938178
And to continue in reference to your spiritually brown comment. When you understand her better than she knows herself she will see you as ethereal. You will transcend this plane. I'm not making any of this up. We all want to be seen.
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>>24938275
>When you understand her better than she knows herself she will see you as ethereal
Is this what you street shitters tell yourselves as you rape your sisters? I can't wait until Islam prevails once again and enslaves you beasts. Truly subhuman.
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>>24938280
How does it feel to transfer such aggressive energy to an anonymous book forum? I bet it's relieving.

(Message sent from Delhi)
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>>24938157
That’s because they’re not computer savvy and you convinced them they have a pc virus saar
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>>24938291
you're the dalit incel advocating for rape, who is the one bringing negative energy?
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>>24938265
>hey guys this is really true I’m an expert in this okay just buy my book
>what do you mean prove it?

Extremely gay
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>>24938271
I agree, and thank you for the thoughtful comment. I think he was in the right headspace to compile the material for this book upon its release.

Having not really aged well into this generation I don't go out of my way to see what he has to say. Especially if it's on a low-frequency (homosexual) woman hating podcast.

Which is a great grift given the angst of the lonely men can project themselves onto the hosts as they berate women
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>>24938300
Saar saar saar
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>>24938297
You're projecting. I think women should be coddled and cared for in the way they never were and that most don't provide.

>>24938298
In a world of ChatGPT why would anyone write a book? lol
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>>24938305
>and that most don't provide
so your mum never showed you bobs and vagene and thats why you are an aifag

captcha: pooop
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>>24938321
topjej
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it's really amazing how you can determine ones race simply by their posts
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>>24938368
I determined them via the leak of where the posters on 4chan came from that came out recently.

(Sent from Delhi)
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>>24938368
>t.mexican-chinese
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>>24936013
>Sexual marketplace
Absolutely demonic.
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>>24938772
To expand on this, what do PUA types think of the fact that the harlots they fornicate with always pay special care to make sure they are sterile for the occasion, and that even if they did conceive, they would murder the child in the womb. Why are they not only proud of this, but think it is something worth building their entire life and personality around? How is this not the height of insane degeneracy?
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>>24938772
So you perceive an older overweight mother of two as attractive as a younger, healthier & more fertile woman?

Call it whatever you want but it exists and you can't opt out. And she's judging you by her own separate criteria.
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>>24938814
I am not an irrational beast, a slave to the passions, but, by the grace of He who created all things, a participant in the Logos.

Such is man's true telos. You might as well say that it is "natural" to desire to look at undressed young women, and so we ought to consume pornography, or desire it. But this is absurd.

>Ye have heard that it was said by them of old, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

>And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

>And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
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>>24935999
>women are naturally empathic and forgiving and overlook so many of our faults
-t. has never tried to marry one
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>>24938772
> just dont be american
well yeah, thats why God is destroying america, so men dont have to be americans anymore
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>>24938784
>what do PUA types think of the fact that the harlots they fornicate with always pay special care to make sure they are sterile for the occasion, and that even if they did conceive, they would murder the child in the womb
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>>24938865
>it is "natural" to desire to look at undressed young women, and so we ought to consume pornography, or desire it
yes, it is natural to desire to look at porno
> adultery
only applies if you or her are married. now as to it being degrading and shameful to interact with, thats why you dont pay for porno. now as it it being searing your conscience with a hot iron, well, if you really want to stop jerking off, look at this picture
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>>24938865
heres a character arc of one of the less shameful more honest prostitutes. the more disgusting prostitutes are the ones that let you put a ring on it and carry your child but only to kidnap the child and enslave you
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>>24938784
>How is this not the height of insane degeneracy
because if you have sterile sex youll never face pedros choice
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>>24936382
>Author has been married for over 20 years and had a child.
He seems to be on to something.
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>>24938772
>Lots of sex is evil, b-because it just is OKAY!?
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>>24939259
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>>24939495
You appear to be under demonic influence. Turn to Christ and the blessed Theotokos.
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>>24939486
Thankyou for the comment. Most here are blinded by preconcieved notions of dating related material.
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>>24936388
No they don't.
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>>24938368
What am I?
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>>24939527
>It was the demons that made you call me a faggot!!!
Pathetic.
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>>24939733
Eastern european
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>>24938784
It's bulimia for men. Satisfying carnal urges without fulfilling them as a coping mechanism for a world they cannot live in.
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>>24940677
It's similar, but bulimics aren't proud of being bulimics in the same way. Ultimately, I think it's because sex (as in the actual physical act) is one of the last things to be fully commodified in our society (prostitution is illegal and there is still a stigma against it). Being selected for sex is a source of validation for those who desperately crave it. That is, for these types it is less about epithumia and pleasure and more about the validation that comes with being desirable. I think this comes through very strong in their writing.

And de Beauvoir is spot on in her use of Hegel in the second sex here. The PUA faces a Lord-Bondsman dialectic type situation. He denigrates woman, such that she is inferior and no longer capable of giving him thymos, and yet seeks thymos from her. So he is forever hungry, forever seeking to consume more. Women have a similar, but slightly different dynamic going too. It's an image right out of Dante's Hell or R. Scott Bakker's Outside. Everyone is a slave to appetites for goods that can never actually fulfill them so they predate on each other endlessly.
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>>24938784
You can save the world from degeneracy. I'll be over here having sex.
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>>24935999
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>>24938784
This is true, but Tyler from RSD has a kid he wouldn't otherwise have if not for pick up.
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>>24941986
>I impregnated a whore
Many such cases
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>>24941993
Game works on all women
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>>24942016
Then why aren't you dating a millionaire model?
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>>24935999
t. femoid
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>>24940366
Fuck.
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>>24942016
Then why do PUAs constantly lament about how they can only cycle through harlots and how there are no pious women to marry?

I know there are such women to marry. Maybe not many, but they exist.

It seems to me that PUA types have built their entire personality around attracting harlots and then are shocked they only attract harlots.

>Inb4 muh confidence games works on everyone

Manipulation can work on anyone, especially the trusting, but only so much. Pace what PUAs sell, no you won't gain magical mind control powers where an ascetic nun suddenly decides to forsake her vocation and blow you because you preformed some magical set of moves with skill. That shit only works so well, and it only works best with a certain sort of target.

Also, you know who else manipulates well? Serial killers. They rarely seem happy, and are abhorrent, but they can talk people into getting close to their van or whatever I guess. Does being a duplicitous degenerate make them somehow higher or better?

You know who else convinces lots of people (and without ulterior motives)? Saints. And the stories of saints, even well documented modern ones, and the number of people they have brought over to total transformations of their life vastly outstrip the powers of "I got some harlot to have sex with me."
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>>24942322
bodied that freak
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>>24942016
>i cant breed
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>>24942322
PUAs also assert that society is degenerate and beyond saving and the best way for dealing with it is making it even more degenerate, by partaking in and rewarding whoredom. Really makes you think.
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>>24942058
I could if I wanted.
>>24942322
Which PUAs? Your post is correct, however PUA is a neutral mechanism and can be used for good as well, such as bringing slightly 'depraved' women back to Christ.
>>24942505
I'm making an anti incel case
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>>24942572
>I could if I wanted.
Why don't you?

>I'm making an anti incel case
Oh yes you are
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>>24942582
>Why don't you?
Because I'm an engaged Christian man in a commited relationship.

PUA works, you are hating on the behavioral science itself instead of people who use it for bad.
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>>24942322
>tfw you just realized that Mother Theresa was the ultimate Dark Triad master machiavelli chad because she convinced people to do all sorts of things
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>>24939275
not getting pussy really fucks up your brain lol
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>>24935999
hope she sees this bro
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>>24935920
Dennis Prager has books out called "The Rational Bible" too.
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>>24938129
>the very real economics of relationships
If a relationship that is not employment can be reduced to a market economy then you don't need this relationship. I do understand that it doesn't mean literal monetary economy, that's just how it is.

>pedestalizing women because you know no better
Men who do that never had a real human connection with a woman so they work purely off gay little models they build in their heads, so they are perpetually wrong and can never be right. Unfortunately no book can replace a mother.



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