>promotes open relationships>promotes homosexuality>celebrates defiance of authority>has a strong female protagonistWhy is everything we hear about Heinlein>REEEEEEEEEE, one of the main characters is a misogynist narcissist
>>24936154Only lesbians and transwomen. Heinlein thought gay cis men were icky
Heinlein's perversions were a little too heterosexual and male gazey to be considered kosher by modern taste makers.
>>24936154>the same guy wrote the definitive sci-fi novels for commies, libertarians, and fascists IN SPACEWhat did he mean by this?
>>24936154Heinlein's politics are hard to pin down because they change so much from book to book. His most consistent position seems to be that he is against authority, but even that comes down to being against the current authority, not against hierarchy in general. He comes across as horny and conservative in most of his books, even when he tries to present himself aesthetically as a revolutionary. He's also a rare author who seems to get dumber and more naïve the older he gets. Heinlein was in his mid-fifties when Stranger in a Strange Land was written, and it reads like a college student wrote what they thought was deep. Double Star is hokey, in a Mister Smith Goes to Washington way, but it's nowhere near as poorly considered as his later works.Part of why The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is popular among a bunch of disparate political groups is because it's so incoherent you can read it as support for just about any cause you want.
>>24936154He wrote it with the intent of breaking taboos, he didn't actually believe most of the stuff in Stranger
>>24937238>Part of why The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is popular among a bunch of disparate political groups is because it's so incoherent you can read it as support for just about any cause you want.I like the part where the whole thing was orchestrated by the supercomputer just to ensure its own survival and in the end the revolution didn't really mean anything anyway
>>24936154Don’t forget this was the favorite book of none other than Charles Manson. He used to carry it everywhere in the days when the Family started down in Haight Ashbury long before Spahn Ranch.
>>24938565I was tempted to read it as satire but I really don't think the text supports it.
haha i remember PKD saying what a nice man he was for helping some drugged out loser freak like himself, now it makes sense. "kindred" degenerates.
>>24937211>the definitive sci-fi novels for commiesNo, that's either The Dispossessed (socdem pinko flavor) or The Land of Crimson Clouds (Soviet cosmonaut poster flavor).
>>24937238>Heinlein's politics are hard to pin down because they change so much from book to book. His most consistent position seems to be that he is against authority, but even that comes down to being against the current authority, not against hierarchy in general. He comes across as horny and conservative in most of his books, even when he tries to present himself aesthetically as a revolutionary.You mean, almost like he was an author of fiction?
>>24937351this is like saying the people that write, produce and star in netflix shows don't believe in the propaganda. it's still slop.
>>24939367Characters in a novel may express varying views while the novel still presents a coherent artistic vision. Heinlein does not do that.
The only Heinlein I have ever read was Sixth Column
>>24936154I had a chance to buy the Virginia Edition set for $300 and I didn't. I regret it.
>>24936154Grow up manchild.
>>24940072You aint lying. I forget which novel Heinlein espouses his hippy free sex space cult views in but then in The Puppetmasters Allucquere was from one of those cults on Mars where she underwent pedo abuse but once she marries the protag she becomes an ideal strong but subservient wife.Heinlein was all over the place and if it was anyone else I would accuse them of blatant trolling.
