I hate English.Vocative?Just comma/pause.Disjunct?Just comma/pause.Other languages have actual grammar for indicating such things.
At least it doesn't have gendered nouns
>>24936445So it has different ways of indicating these things. They're still equally capable instruments for expressing thought.
>>24936466yet another reason to hate it>>24936491>So it has different ways of indicating these things.No, that can barely be said to be a way of indicating it.>equally capable instrumentsdefinitely not
>>24936500>yet another reason to hate itWhy are gendered nouns good? Explain
>>24936500What can you say in some other language that you cannot say in English?
>>24936506>>24936523>Let's eat, grandma.Edamus avia.>Let's eat grandma.Edamus aviam.
>>24936445Fortunately the development of our language wasn't directed by autistic spastics like you otherwise it would only be spoke by fifty libtards for their aborigine studies degree
>>24936534English makes that distinction fine with intonation, though. That's just as much part of the language as segmental phonemes.
>>24936445Then stop speaking it.
>>24936545Retarded cope.
>>24936548Intonation and punctuation are not equal in value to suffixes, no.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/516200433/#516204017
>>24936599Why are they not equal?
>>24936591care to elaborate?
>>24936602read the fucking link
>>24936607What part, here, precisely, is an actual argument for this position rather than merely an extended assertion thereof? Fundamentally, both are equally unambiguous when actually spoken.
goddamn I hate anglos, dumb proud motherfuckers
>>24936534That's an argument for cases but not gendered nouns.
>>24936599If you actually believed this you'd learn kalallisut
>nth english hate threadlet me guess, the esl who uses 'fuck' alot and the one who rambles about arguements will start their ranta
Any ESLs that like to act big on this board are REQUIRED to reply to this post with a vocaroo of them reading the following words:>refrigerator>february>world>rural>squirrel>Worcestershire>choir>sixth>through>salmon>strengths>Connecticut>Reading>Godmanchester>EdinburghHaving seen this post, one's failure to reply will be taken as tacit admission of inferiority and gayness.
>>24937673https://voca.ro/1u4bGkNWpKcN
are there any english words that have developed specifically vocative forms?i can only think of broski, from bro. people only use broski when they're directly addressing someone.
>>24937673https://vocaroo.com/14k7cZ9inZRX
>>24937516the argument for gendered nouns is in the attached image
>>24937742edinburg??
>>24937749but it shows inconvenience, not advantage.
>>24936445The Old Parr remembers. These things were in English in the previous centuries.
>>24937750god man chester too
>>24937753i think you understand it wrong "its" in the English example is ambiguous because it may refer to either the textbook or the new testament(or more likely, it refers to the more immediate noun, and is hence less expressive) the German example does not imply that the text has to contain both forms at once (I think this is what you understood?). it shows that you can pick either form depending on which expression you want to reference.
>>24938120my fault - i think it circles back to what RG said here >>24936545the english method tends to ambiguity and obscurity of expression; the (say) french, to limitation of thought.
It's always amusing seeing ESLs complain about English while speaking English. Absolutely buck-broken.
>>24938171You don't see the complaints about it in their own languages because you don't speak them.
>>24938460in a roundabout way this probably makes their point..
>>24936445Sorry that the greatest, most widely spoken and written language ever is just too tough and confusing for you shithole-dwelling monkeys.Maybe one day when you crawl out of the muck and dominate the globe as we Anglos have done, everyone will speak in clicking sounds and guttural throat noises. Until that day, however, you're going to need to use the speech of civilized man.
>>24936445English is actually great for indicating actions that are currently happeningUsing French because it's the only other language I know, to say "I am eating", you have to either be ambiguous and say "Je mange" (since it also means "I eat"), or inelegant and say "je suis en train de manger"Same with "The house is being painted", in this case you have to say "La maison est en train d'être peinte", again you have to again add "en train de" to convey the same meaning
>>24936445I hate your language too... oh wait, no I don't, I never even think about your language because it's so irrelevant. I'm sorry that you're not as privileged as me, being a native speaker of the world's most important language. I'm sorry that everything written in your language is, at best, a curiosity on the global stage, and that the majority of people will never read a single sentence of it. At least you're reasonably proficient in English - people who aren't are essentially disabled in the modern world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJYoqCDKoT4
>>24939768>I find English a far finer language than Spanish. Firstly, English is both a Germanic and a Latin language. Those two registers—for any idea you take, you have two words. Those words will not mean exactly the same. For example if I say “regal” that is not exactly the same thing as saying “kingly.” Or if I say “fraternal” that is not the same as saying “brotherly.” Or “dark” and “obscure.” Those words are different. It would make all the difference—speaking for example—the Holy Spirit, it would make all the difference in the world in a poem if I wrote about the Holy Spirit or I wrote the Holy Ghost, since “ghost” is a fine, dark Saxon word, but “spirit” is a light Latin word. Then there is another reason. The reason is that I think that, of all languages, English is the most physical of all languages.
>>24936534More funny examples.