Can developing the habit of reading heal my brain from years of doomscrolling, porn addiction and isolation that deleted my attention span, memory and gave me a costant brainfog?
>>24937627Is she allowed to do that?
>>24937634yes
Yeah, but it might be kind of an uphill battle. Isolate yourself someplace quiet and comfortable and leave your devices in a different location
Probably not but it's fun
>>24937636Yeah, I also figure out that if I don't use at all pc and phone right in the morning I don't feel the urge to use them at all and i'm more concentrated.
>>24937627do you also plan to quit doomscrolling, porn, etc?That'll probably have the bigger impact I suspect.
>>24937729Yeah, I'm trying by making myself busy and using internet for less time
>>24937738Nice. I personally felt a huge bump in ambition, productivity and ability for sustained work after quitting porn, especially. I can't know for sure if there was a causal link there, of course, but I suspect there was.Good luck.
>>24937627Do what I did, don’t go cold turkey, start with a rule like what my sister does with my nephews: no technology mon-fri, technology on weekend, but no doomscrolling, no vertical video. You can watch YouTube and Netflix and stuff. Then after a few weeks of that, if you want to, just cut it out completely.
>>24937798>You can watch YouTube and Netflix and stuff.And play video games ofc
A habit of getting off your PC can. Reading is the reward you unlock from unfucking your brain.
these threads are getting boring. just subscribe to the juden peterstein podcast like all the other failures to launch and leave us alone
>>24937921>this is getting boring >guy with the most predictable boring reply
>>24937627I've got rid of my smartphone and am 90% there to breaking the addiction but I still have a computer and every time I'm off work I'm just thinking about the screens. I still associate entertainment or anything with screens and I don't know how to see it as mediocre.
>>24937627yes You have to really want it though. The minute I catch myself on twitter or whatever I immediately take a deep breath, press the X button, and either go read or play a video game with my friends.
>>24937921this. either your parents read to you as a child and you've done it everyday for two decades or fuck off>>24938218>takes you back to the homepage
>>24937627yestry to read books you enjoy at an enjoyable pace. alternate fiction genres and nonfiction genres to check stuff out
>>24937951>>24937798>>24937738Has there ever been an invention like this in history that we had to actively fight against lest it ruin us? I know that ostensibly these devices are tools we invented and use for our convenience, but their effects seem to have been uniquely detrimental?I got my first computer when I was 11 or 12, and from that point on that thing was my best friend and I was never bored ever again. I sometimes wonder what my life would have been like if I had never had it. I wonder if not having constant entertainment readily at hand would have pushed me to achieve more and to work more diligently and with more sustained effort at my various creative interests. If it would have pushed me to go out more, if I would've been more socially proactive than I have turned out. I'm sure I would have read a lot more books.Slightly related, I remember using Snapchat a few years ago and there being this AI contact in your list of contacts that you could chat with. I looked up how to get rid of it, and found out that you needed to pay for a premium membership or whatever to turn it off. I've heard of paying for extra features, but that was the first time I encountered having to pay to get rid of a "feature".With every passing day I move closer to Paul Kingsnorth's position.
>>24938406>Has there ever been an invention like this in history that we had to actively fight against lest it ruin us?You can go a long way back. Cars, for instance, are just as predatory but more from an economic perspective. Psychologically the most damaging part is that screens give you an experience enjoyable without friends while not having an imagination. My imaginative abilities and sense of time have been completely distorted and I'm trying to reclaim it.
Nope, it's too late. Your biological neural-net has been trained on too much artificial data. You've experienced "model collapse". This happens to artificial neural-nets too, but faster, so we were able to study the phenomenon in more depth. https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/urban-bugmen-and-ai-model-collapse
>>24937627Personally it didn't for me, I have no trouble reading for long periods but phone addiction is still very actively something I need to push against. I think keeping busy with something else is good, but it's not as simple as "dopamine detox" or something like that. Reading for me is no longer difficult at all and is enjoyable, so I can easily pick it up, but when I'm too tired to read or something the temptation to doom scroll is still there and I need to actively try avoid it.
Yes. Exercise and 10mg of creatine helped me a lot.
>>24937627maybe stop nieceposting as a start
>>24937627I struggled with porn/phone addiction and doomscrolling for a long time but reading helped me heal. Here's what I also did to fix things:>Get a dumbphone (I have a Punkt) and move the essentials from your smartphone like banking and job-related stuff to a computer (preferably a desktop)>Cut down masturbation to only twice a week. Going cold turkey (or avoiding it entirely) can work, but it often leads to relapses. >Get a nice MP3 player with Bluetooth, and dump your favorite albums onto it.>Start going to the gym. Try and aim for at least twice a week.>Pick up drawing as a daily habit. Draw your favorite anime characters, scenes from books you're reading, or sketch the things and people around you.>Start off with baby steps when it comes towards reading. Grab some magazines from the store or buy some old hero pulps and adventure novels.>Try meditating, even for just a few minutes a day.What's crucial is that you commit yourself to a healthy diet above all else. Exercise and avoiding porn/screens is one thing, but it's like what they say: you ARE what you eat, and if you eat slop, you will find it harder to commit to positive and transformative lifestyle changes. The gut-brain axis is slept on. The microbes in your stomach determine how you think and feel.>Cut out sugar beyond the bare minimum. That means no more soda or candy.>Eat more fruits (I eat a bowl of berries and apricot slices and a banana every day) and veggies (I just started eating mushrooms and seaweed regularly). >Vitamins like B12 and minerals like magnesium are very important towards fighting brain fog. Start eating pumpkin seeds and walnuts.>Drink more milk, eat more cheese, and start eating Greek yogurt.
>>24937627read 1 Jn 1
I think you have to view it as an addiction, or a compulsion, and break the habit before you can expect to see improvement. It's like a drug addict thinking he can mitigate the downsides of drug addiction while still using. Unlike drug addiction, I don't think you need to totally abstain, but you definitely need the discipline to stay within a "healthy" range and not allow the old patterns to creep back into your habits. First consider the amount of time you want to spend using your devices, watching video content, etc., consider what types of content you wish you consume (auditing what you allow into your head is an important discipline in the information age, imo). Once you've developed a view of what is acceptable in terms of what you view and how long you spend viewing it, you can then put together a plan that aligns with your vision. I think a short-term period (say between 3 days to 3 weeks) of total abstinence is a good approach. Personally I only use my phone for texting or phone calls and keep notifications off for everything else, and try to limit my "device time" (I use my computer to stream movies to my television and music to my speakers) to a reasonable amount per day, and avoid all social media or endless scroll type sites and apps. 4chan is like my sole remaining digital vice. It try to limit all of my "digital" entertainment to music, films and the occasional YouTube video/show. I also set aside a period of time every morning and evening for reading and have made it a routine. I wear earbuds a lot while I'm working, riding my bike or working out, so I will often spend an hour here or there downloading enough youtube videos, podcasts or audiobooks to download and transfer to my device that will keep me set for a couple weeks. TTC/Great Courses/Audible rips are good for this. Anyway good luck.
>>24939221The solution to "normal" vices (porn, sugar, doomscrolling, etc) is proper time management.
>>24937627No, but it may give you the tools to do so. I feel like the epistemic collapse from AI and internet culture is too big to be cured just by reading a bunch of dickens bildungsromans. But if you read and also sign up for a regular social club/front facing job, you'll absolutely be fine, unironically.
>>24938406>Has there ever been an invention like this in history that we had to actively fight against lest it ruin usIt's called the industrial revolution
>>24939395That isn't an invention retard
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>>24938782>Accuse others of buy manhood>Computational theory of mind, nominalism, etc. assumptions.People have had to abandon society to seek real contact with Being since the days when the people leaving were largely shepherds and subsistence farmers. The problem is sin. I live in a very rural area. We have plenty of delusional people here. Satan is the prince of this world.
>>24939487>doesn’t know what the steam engine isI suggest an immediate suicide for you!
>>24939658Then say steam engine then next time, babyfood brain.
>>24939579>>24937627
>>24940948ToT
yes, and quickly
>>24939274Huh
>>24938406Every single form of media ever invented caused social issues. Plato decried the written word as a corruption.
>>249376274chan is curing me of my doomscrolling brain rot, here me out, while I have a desire to converse with others and express my ideas in dialogue, if I keep it to slow philosophical text boards without /GIF/ you just run out of topics, you reach the end of the scroll.
>>24938406People have been finding ways to squander their lives ever since we crawled out of the primordial muck. You probably would've found something else to waste your potential without the computer.
>>24937627It sounds like you are chronically overstimulated. Reading can help, but first you need to tune out all the static. Cut back your screen time and if you have trouble being in silence ambient music or nature sounds are fine.Then you can use reading to fix your brain, but it will only stick if you can focus your mind first.
>>24937627The best way to get rid of vicious porn addiction is to become a Pagan and marry two girls together. A harem of two lustful wives will be a benediction, the harem will help you overcome porn addiction!
>>24937627>heal my brain from years of doomscrollingTry years of doomreading books, and if you absorb enough, you can write your own book.
>>24937627im in my 30s and have been perma online my whole life and do have some social media, probably a porn addiction.started making a habit of reading an hour minimum every day a few weeks ago and it's for sure helping me. i also installed an alternative instagram app that lets me turn off reels and started using youtube in the browser so it doesn't show me shorts. it makes a difference man. i have a handful of friends who are big readers so it was easy for me to find stuff that was enjoyable right away but that's probably gonna be a first roadblock for you. don't pick up some old ass challenging classic cuz it's just gonna intimidate you and make you put it offgood luck anon
Yeah
>>24937627Yes, try meditation, eating healthier, and exercising too.
Thank all for the advices but I have another question now.Guys did you ever "wander aimless on the internet" like you are in trance state? I don't mean infinitescroll stuff (But that may be included too).Just shoot up the music in your headphone and hours passed without you achived nothing.When I was younger, everytime I used the pc there was always something fun to do and now it isn't but I still come back to it.Like the internet used to be "addictive" because it was genuinly fun but now is addictive because it designed to be like that without anything of value to be pulled out.Now that i'm limiting my screen time i'm starting to think what I actually used to do on the internet and what am I doing now.Am I just getting schizo?
>>24941752Feet
>>24939608I don't understand, care to elaborate?
>>24939608Amen.
>>24937627Just start setting a timer, it works for me.Start as low as 5 minutes. And for that 5 minutes turn everything else off except for what you are concentrating on. Make it a habit. Increase time.
>>24939178>""limit"">twice a weekI guess that's limited for a 15 year old in a school full of skirts but once a month is actually limited, though preferably not at all
>>24944239very good
>>24944239I have negative stigma towards religion due to being a nutcase, but I have become more interested in it because it converts the concept of struggling in the real world into something rewarding. I've started asking for myself to become strong enough to handle my struggles (which feel insignificant compared to others) instead of asking for an easier life, a gf, etc..
