There's nothing more ugly and pathetic than a writer having a self-insert. It's why Joyce will never truly be great on the level of Shakespeare or Homer. Yeah, I see Stephen there, you fart-sniffing faggot. Only an inferior writer inserts himself into his stories.
>>24939553shakespeare and homer both had well-known self-inserts.
>>24939553I hated Levin in AK for precisely this reason. Both Stephen and Levin are awful self-inserts.
>>24939553Prospero and Tiresias were clearly the self-inserts for Shakespeare and Homer.
>>24939553>Only an inferior writer inserts himself into his stories.And yet every writer does this. Whether they do it through a focused protagonist or in a more scattered way through multiple characters. You can’t name 1 book in which the author doesn’t self-insert in some capacity. It’s literally impossible not to, pseud retard.
>>24939580A writer should NOT have a character where they say "This is Me." All characters a writer writes are that writer, to some capacity, since of course a writer can only write out of his own experience, and can only echo his own mind and heart in the creation of new characters. But there should not be a deliberate attempt at inserting the writer, himself, into a story. At best you can have a character that has stronger echoes of the writer than most of the others. But the writer should disappear into the story and the characters. We should never see HIM crystallized into one particular character. The writer's presence in the story should be the story itself, discrete and yet, paradoxically, all-encompassing.
that would be most post-petrarch poets, to some extent (including shakespeare)
Nigga watched some youtube videos about self inserts in cartoons and forgets almost every great writer throughout history has written autofiction
>>24939553>Only an inferior writer inserts himself into his stories....because?
>>24939584>A writer ought not to do this>There should not be>We should never see himYou still didn't say why. Just sounds like your dogmatic opinion without any explanation.
>>24939584>>24939553>A writer should NOTthe mark of the true brainlet is to instruct others on how art should or should not be made, and how things should or should not be. An artist does whatever the fuck he wants, the main difference between you and him is that he does it WELL, i.e. artfully - and that the artist can always find or invent a way to do something well where you don't, or didn't think of it, or thought it wasn't possible.It's also turbocringe when an opinionated 20 year old with not nearly enough experience in either consuming or creating art sits down do scream at other 20 year olds about what adults with experience SHOULD do or not do. I understand uttering stupid opinions for others to refute is part of the process of learning and growing into a proper person, but sometimes it's really annoying to see.Study more. Read more. You understand neither Homer nor Shakespeare nor Joyce.
>>24939584As if you ever made anything in your whole life XD keep consooming kid
>>24939584Dante did it and created one of the best books in history, cry more.
>>24939584Why do you think good books (i.e. stuff that resonates with you specifically) are good to begin with? Answer: because the writer inserted (parts of) himself that resonate with parts of yourself. Try again.
>>24939553Hegel seems to agree with you:>Je schlechter der Künstler ist, desto mehr sieht man ihn selbst, seine Partikularität und Willkür.
>>24939778>The worse an artist is, the more one sees the artist himself, his particularity and his arbitrariness.
>>24939778Hegel never produced anything of value in terms of literature, may as well post an anon shitpost.
>>24939791>Your views on art are only legitimate if you make art yourself.Gay mental reflex. Also how does this apply to yourself?
>>24939584Assertion: checkReason: missing
>>24939553>Stephen Dedalus is JoyceStatus: filtered. Return to Onyx Storm.
>>24939680your reflections on the authority of technique make quite explicit why artists are banned from the republic
>>24939773?… you’re agreeing
filtered lmao
>>24939558Homer wasn't even a person.
>>24940395such a stupid theory.
>>24940395such a based theory
