Cuck mentality
>>24941777Yet you probably obey the law every chance you get
>>24941798because its for the good of society
>>24941807NPNW
>>24941798Not true, I grope random women on public transit and rob from food pantries regularly.
One might even say a slave mentality.
>>24941807LolLmao even
Socrates' opinion comes off more as personal rather than universal, i.e, IF and IF and IF such and such and such conditions about the state apply as in his case, then he's acting with reason. But those conditions are quite stringent, namely and briefly, he does consider the authority of the state absolutely legitimate
The point is that the individual is determined by the society in which he lives. There is no such thing as an individual outside of society. So to go against the law of your society is to ontologically destroy yourself in a way that is more potent even than the death that society wishes to administer to you.
>>24941829Prove it, liar.
Most people do not deserve to be outside of the law. Some entrepreneurs, maybe some mercenaries, yes, but not your average incel goyim who thinks he's above everyone else.
>>24941996>he does consider the authority of the state absolutely legitimatelike an american in the 50's with the john birch society>>24942002>to go against the law of your society is to ontologically destroy yourself in a way that is more potent even than the death that society wishes to administer to youand when the law is a morass of contradictions with the purpose of forcing anyone becoming powerful to engage in corrupt practices thus ensuring that the powerful are all corrupt
>>24942037>Most people do not deserve to be outside of the lawanyone who wants a family needs to be outside the law, or their child will be mistreated, which contradicts God's law
>>24941777The Straussian interpretation of Crito is that Crito is simply too dumb to get philosophy so Socrates tells him a fairy tale to make him feel better about Socrates's impending execution.
The exoteric meaning is that people need to obey law to maintain the correct functioning of society. The esoteric meaning is that only a handful of people are truly gifted and can and should follow their own law, and that the masses need to obey the Law because only law and tradition keeps a society cohesive and functioning. If too many people do not obey the law then society will fail, therefore the (moral) privilege of not obeying the law is secretly reserved to those few gifted ones, all while keeping the masses in their place.
>>24942972>Muh modernite rereading of classics to make them fit my degenerate take on the world.
>>24941777in the ancient days you were actually ruled by your betters instead of zog
>>24943292Said "betters" being endogamic pedophiles.Things truly don't change.
>>24941777Neither capitalist pig rational actor theory nor commiefag "show me the class i'll show you the politics" theory explain to me why troons/homos want to throw society into a state of nature when the law/police are the only thing between them and the backwoods retards (who make up 40-50% of the country) that think they are literal unironic demons escaped from hell.
>>24942002Bullshit. Men have a nature. Society can either be in line with it in which case it is good, or it can suppress nature in which case to go against the law is to become more yourself.
>>24943242Nta but it's defensible, lines up with a passage in the Republic about how the only philosopher who owes something to their city is the one specifically reared to be a philosopher by their city, and no other. Plus, Socrates does give it away when he tells Crito that his age is a factor, he would've dipped if this happened when he was younger.
Crito refers to the ideal relationship between citizen and state wherein the state is a true representative of both the collective good and the super-collective objective moral order.Obviously such a state has nothing in common at all with the modern states and their arbitrary meme laws, or the relationship between modern state, law and citizen.
>>24941777Yeah 100 percent my least favorite work of his
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>>24943488true because the christians are on the idiot side of the curve
>>24943503Congratulations, you made it to sub-genius.
>>24943488There is natural laws and the fundamental laws of creation. Only follow those.
