What was the point of this depressing ass book apart from "Don't be old and poor"?
The whole point of a novel is to tell a story.
>>24941925You found it depressing? That Hemingway story that was just a rape story was depressing, this was actually triumphant in it's own way
>old man still has it in him to go fishing and catch a big ass fish>depressingAre you illiterate?
“A man can be destroyed but never defeated” you are a colossal bumbling retard to not get this post outed you as the sub 90 retard you are. Hemingway was also simple minded so how the fuck can you not get it
>>24941925There is a lot to it.
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>>24941925you might be unironically retarded, dude. this is a very short and simple story.>>24942117based
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I loved it, flawless novel. Sad to hear a lot of people hate it because they were forced to read it in school.
>>24941925Its about the friends we met along the way
>>24941925Americans can't write.
>>24941925All of Hemingway’s books are just, “women aren’t human and I hate foreigners, now lemme drink, smoke, and torture animas.”
>>24941925I think this book being a mandatory HS read has deluded its relevance, by making it known to retards like OP who cannot decipher its message
Midwit slop.
To me it is about the young boy coming to realize how important the old man was to him. The central relationship of the novel is ever present through its absence.
I am a moral fag, but I enjoy Hemingway stories/topics that I would probably despise from other authors. Anyone have a explanation for this?
>>24941988>The whole point of a novelIt’s a novella you ignorant fuck
>>24941925>What was the point of this depressing ass book apart from "Don't be old and poor"?Don't be poor and an old man.No one gives a shit about poor old men.
>>24942806>No one gives a shit about menftfy
>>24942809you are right. Men aren't just expendable, we're disposable.
>>24942483The young boy symbolizes youth, which the man lost.
>>24942118interesting.
>>24941925How was he poor again? Didn't he have his own boat? He own fishing gear?Do you have a car, OP
>>24941925I thought it was terrible and depressing, too. "Keep fighting no matter what" bravado. Look'em in the eye, give'em a firm handshake and never stay down, kid. Yawn.
>>24942106>thinks that throwing 'ass' onto the end of a descriptor enhances itYes, he's illiterate.
>>24943117This is addressed in the commentary my good sir.
>>24941925People who see things this way are a different species.The old guy has a pretty neat life. Lots of great memories. Hangs out and fishes or relaxes on the beach. Has a young boy who looks after him and friends and stuff. >But its sucks cause he's pooooorI don't get the people like this
>>24943145>ackshually I'm correct and the author is wrongit sure was
>>24942129Interesting. I have a hard time getting past twitterspeak and formatting but he's clearly onto something.
>>24941925He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. In the first forty days a boy had been with him. But after forty days without a fish the boy’s parents had told him that the old man was now definitely and finally salao, which is the worst form of unlucky, and the boy had gone at their orders in another boat which caught three good fish the first week. It made the boy sad to see the old man come in each day with his skiff empty and he always went down to help him carry either the coiled lines or the gaff and harpoon and the sail that was furled around the mast. The sail was patched with flour sacks and, furled, it looked like the flag of permanent defeat.The old man was thin and gaunt with deep wrinkles in the back of his neck. The brown blotches of the benevolent skin cancer the sun brings from its reflection on the tropic sea were on his cheeks. The blotches ran well down the sides of his face and his hands had the deep-creased scars from handling heavy fish on the cords. But none of these scars were fresh. They were as old as erosions in a fishless desert.Everything about him was old except his eyes and they were the same color as the sea and were cheerful and undefeated.“Santiago,” the boy said to him as they climbed the bank from where the skiff was hauled up. “I could go with you again. We’ve made some money.”
>>24943168The old man had taught the boy to fish and the boy loved him.“No,” the old man said. “You’re with a lucky boat. Stay with them.”“But remember how you went eighty-seven days without fish and then we caught big ones every day for three weeks.”“I remember,” the old man said. “I know you did not leave me because you doubted.”“It was papa made me leave. I am a boy and I must obey him.”“I know,” the old man said. “It is quite normal.”“He hasn’t much faith.”“No,” the old man said. “But we have. Haven’t we?”“Yes,” the boy said. “Can I offer you a beer on the Terrace and then we’ll take the stuff home.”“Why not?” the old man said. “Between fishermen.”They sat on the Terrace and many of the fishermen made fun of the old man and he was not angry. Others, of the older fishermen, looked at him and were sad. But they did not show it and they spoke politely about the current and the depths they had drifted their lines at and the steady good weather and of what they had seen. The successful fishermen of that day were already in and had butchered their marlin out and carried…
>>24942129Judas got 30 cents per lb of Jesus? I mean the numbers are the same, it's so obvious.
>>24942279It's boring and nothing interesting happens in it and the prose feels clunky and the old man should've lifted the fish onto his boat once the sharks ate a large part of it.
>>24943201>the old man should've lifted the fish onto his boat once the sharks ate a large part of it.That doesn't serve the symbolic meaning of the story, which doesn't exist.
>>24943201by that time he was exhausted
>>24943185The biblical references are very on the nose, it’s plain silly to deny them
>>24944086cool attempt at saging.
