>>24943388
Collection of Peron's speeches and whatever Jorge Lanata does, I guess

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Thomas Pynchon

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>>24943388
>argentinians
>soul
Lmao

>>24943388
Mein Kampf

Martín Fierro
>free man screwed by the government
>runs away after getting tired of the scam
>kills a nig at a pub
>retvrns to state of nature with the indians

>>24943388
Just read a Quino compilation

>>24943388
Why is every single new Argentinian novel about trannies?

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>>24943388
Definitely a biography of Diego Maradona

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>>24943388

>>24944675
Unironically this.

>>24943388
BOM

>>24943388
Argentina casting collected works volume 1-3

>>24943388
> read
> the argentinian soul

you are better off listening to carlos gardel

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>>24943418
this + el matadero

>>24943388
It's less of a book and more of a dick and the action is not reading but literally getting fucked, only then will you understand the argentine soul, at one point equal with the US in living standards and power and has only slid downwards for 100 + years.

LOS ARGENTINOS SON MUY EXTRAÑOS.

Leonardo Favio's El Dependiente and Crónica de un Niño Solo. Fabian Bielisnky's Nuever Reinas and El Aura. Luis Alberto Spinetta's Artaud. Mariano Llinás' works too.

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>>24944675
King

>>24945530
I mean 100+ years ago US was a shithole itself. Their rise did not begin until the two wars

>>24943418
man i wish

>>24943398
So Pynchon was an unitario? Terrible news.

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>>24943388
Pic related.
>>24943400
And this. I read it back in 2018 and the authors nailed it, their depiction of the argentinian idiosyncrasy is awfully accurate.

>>24943388
1- Breve historia de la Argentina by José Luis Romero
2- El matadero/La cautiva by Esteban Echeverría
3- Civilización y Barbarie (o, Facundo) by Domingo Faustino Sarmiento
4- Martín Fierro by José Hernandez
5- The south by Jorge Luis Borges

>>24945870
compartime una extraña

>>24945870
Martín Fierro only portrays the prehistoric era of the gauchos, called "people of action" by Juan Manuel de Rosas—the same gauchos whom Charles Darwin feared, and after spending a night alone with them on the pampas, he said they were the most gentlemanly people he had ever encountered.

Read Darwin's accounts of these centaurs of the pampas, respectful and loyal, as well as independent and with their own ideas.

The book Martín Fierro only portrays one era, the time when gauchos began to be conscripted to fight on the frontier against the indigenous people.

For an Argentine gaucho, digging trenches was beneath him, so that task was performed by European immigrants.

However, the book Martín Fierro only portrays one era, which is unimaginable for any resident of Buenos Aires: the era of the pampa raids that arrived from the depths, galloping for days, and the line of bureaucratic forts with kidnapped gauchos. Riding horses almost to the slaughterhouse were the ones who had to stop the intelligence of the Pampas Indians, who filled the pits dug by the English with sheep and rode over them.

>>24947827
>Riding horses almost to the slaughterhouse were the ones who had to stop the intelligence of the Pampas Indians, who filled the pits dug by the English with sheep and rode over them.
* The famous Alsina trench, at that time it wasn't trench warfare, but rather the vast expanse of land, which made a line of forts manned by kidnapped gauchos to confront the invasions impractical

Martin Fierro is representative of the old Argentine soul; of today, few say: we need to learn to ride a horse

>>24944675
>Definitely a biography of Diego Maradona
Since 1990, I've avoided looking at anything about Maradona because I really disliked that guy.

I'm proud to say I'm Argentinian and I know nothing about Maradona, since I actively avoid learning about him.

Although I like Messi because he's similar, I'm not interested in him.

>>24946463
>And this. I read it back in 2018 and the authors nailed it, their depiction of the argentinian idiosyncrasy is awfully accurate.

https://youtu.be/KG9Z0zwMxAM

I read it when I was twelve. I especially remember the part where the man who denigrates Sarmiento climbed a tree, cornered by a tiger, in 1840 or thereabouts, the one who was watching him.

That book was from the library; everyone has their own biases, and Domingo Faustino Sarmiento was biased too.

So, the interior of Argentina and its vast rivers were always targets of the Anglo-French combined fleet, which, upon surrendering to leave, had to fire a 21-gun salute to the Argentine flag of the time.

The flag that proclaimed: "Federation or Death! Death to the filthy Unitarian savages!"

Hugo Wast comments on the topic against chileans

Sarmiento, the author of "Civilization or Barbarism," was an active participant once he returned

>>24946463
Siempre andaba retobao ,
Con ninguno solía hablar;
Se divertía en escarbar
4620 Y hacer marcas con el dedo,
Y cuanto se ponía en pedo
Me empezaba aconsejar.

Me parece que lo veo
Con su poncho calamaco .
4625 Después de echar un buen taco
Ansi principiaba a hablar:
"Jamás llegués a parar
adonde veas perros flacos."
"El primer cuidao del hombre
4630 Es defender el pellejo.
Lleváte de mi consejo,
Fijáte bien lo que hablo:
El diablo sabe por diablo,
Pero más sabe por viejo"

4635 "Hacéte amigo del juez.
No le dés de qué quejarse;
Y cuando quiera enojarse
Vos te debés encojer,
Pues siempre es güeno tener
4640 Palenque ande ir a rascarse. "

"Nunca le lleves la contra,
Porque manda la gavilla.
Allí sentao en su silla
Ningún güey le sale bravo:
4645 A uno le da con el clavo
Y a otro con la cantramilla. "

"El hombre, hasta el más soberbio,
Con más espinas que un tala
Aflueja andando en la mala
4650 Y es blando como manteca:
Hasta la hacienda baguala
cai al jagüel con la seca. "

"No andés cambiando de cueva,
Hacé las que hace el ratón:
4655 Conserváte en el rincón
En que empesó tu asistencia:
Vaca que cambia querencia
Se atrasa en la parición. "

Y menudiando los tragos
4660 Aquel vicio como cerro
"No olvidés, me decía, Fierro,
Que el hombre no debe crer
En lágrimas de mujer
Ni en la renguera del perro. "

4665 "No te debés afligir
Aunque el mundo se desplome;
Lo que más precisa el hombre
Tener, según yo discurro,
Es la memoria del burro
4670 Que nunca olvida ande come. "

"Dejá que caliente el horno
El dueño del amasijo.
Lo que es yo, nunca me aflijo
Y a todito me hago el sordo:
4675 El cerdo vive tan gordo
Y se come hasta los hijos. "

"El zorro que ya es corrido,
Dende lejos la olfatea .
No se apure quien desea
4680 Hacer lo que le aproveche:
La vaca que más rumea
Es la que da mejor leche. "

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Les Miserables for Cunnysette!

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>>24943388
Anyone remember that thread with the penpal person?
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24895735
I feel like we have a lot of Argentineans who browse this board.

>>24945430
>you are better off listening to carlos gardel
"Donde los vientos me llevan,
Allí estoy como en mi centro.
Cuando una tristeza encuentro
4740 Tomo un trago pa alegrarme;
A mi me gusta mojarme
Por ajuera y por adentro. "

"Vos sos pollo, y te convienen
Toditas estas razones;
4745 Mis consejos y leciones
No eches nunca en el olvido:
En las riñas he aprendido
A no peliar sin puyones. "

Con estos consejos y otros
4750 Que yo en mi memoria encierro
Y que aquí no desentierro
Educándome seguía,
Hasta que al fin se dormia,
Mesturao entre los perros.

The old viscacha was a compulsive hoarder; they portray him exactly as he was, someone who was strong and brave, but was defeated by laziness.

He is the anti-hero of the gaucho, but very cunning and incel, just as he lived today.

While the average gaucho suffered and fought,

It was a time when the Pampas raids killed every Christian in Buenos Aires, riding for days on end just to do that.

The great change wasn't the line of forts with kidnapped gauchos to fight them, but the repeating rifle, which the Pampas knew about thanks to the Chileans, the perennial traitors to Argentina.

https://youtu.be/3RTFO67zSCk

>>24947944
>The old viscacha was a

4725 "Las armas son necesarias,
Pero naides sabe cuándo;
Ansina, si andás pasiando
Y de noche sobre todo,
Debés llevarlo de modo
4730 Que al salir salga cortando. "

"Los que no saben guardar
Son pobres aunque trabajen;
Nunca por más que se atajen,
Se librarán del cimbrón:
4735 Al que nace barrigón
Es al ñudo que lo fagen. "

4695 "A naides tengás envidia;
Es muy triste el envidiar.
Cuando veás a otro ganar,
A estorbarle no te metas:
Cada lechón en su teta
4700 Es el modo de mamar. "

"Ansí se alimentan muchos
Mientras los pobres lo pagan.
Como el cordero hay quien lo haga
En la puntita, no niego;
4705 Pero otros, como el borrego
Toda entera se la tragan. "

"Si buscás vivir tranquilo
Dedicáte a solteriar;
Mas si te querés casar,
4710 Con esta alvertencia sea:
Que es muy difícil guardar
Prenda que otros codicean. "

"Es un vicho la muger
Que yo aquí no lo destapo ;
4715 Siempre quiere al hombre guapo,
Mas fijáte en la eleción,
Porque tiene el corazón
Como barriga de zapo. "

>>24947948
Meanwhile, the gaucho Martín Fierro, who had traveled with Darwin and whom Darwin feared because of how savage they appeared, said this:
A father who gives advice,
Is more than a father, a friend.

Thus, as such, I tell you

To live with caution:

No one knows in what corner
His enemy hides.

I never had any other school
Than a wretched life.

Don't be surprised if in the game I sometimes make a mistake,
For he who learned nothing must know very little.

Un padre que da consejos,
Más que padre es un amigo.
Ansí, como tal les digo
Que vivan con precaución:
Naides sabe en qué rincón
Se oculta el que es su enemigo.
Yo nunca tuve otra escuela
Que una vida desgraciada.
No estrañen si en la jugada Alguna vez me equivoco,
Pues debe saber muy poco
Aquel que no aprendió nada.

>>24947956
ay hombres que de su cencia
Tienen la cabeza llena;
6925 Hay sabios de todas menas
Mas digo, sin ser muy ducho:
Es mejor que aprender mucho
El aprender cosas buenas.

There are men whose heads are full of their own knowledge;

6925 There are wise men of all kinds
But I say, without being very learned:
It is better to learn good things than to learn a lot.

https://youtu.be/2-AzfmlEG5E

>>24947921
What huge feet.

>>24947961
know the story, the story of when the term "gringo" started being used in Buenos Aires.

An English digger, or an Italian with a monkey playing the organ—they were all taken prisoner to fight against the old Pampas raids.
According to what's written in Martín Fierro, in the late 1870s, an Italian was called a "gringo."

And they had no idea what to call a cowboy.

However, José Hernández, the author of Martín Fierro, said at the time that he wouldn't visit Europe like his contemporaries, and in his other book,

which I have and is called "Instrucción del Estanciero" (The Rancher's Instruction), he explains everything very well. The author of Martín Fierro already knew as much as Jules Verne about refrigerated ships and flying airplanes. I say this because he's the author of Martín Fierro, and he was truly intelligent; he did well.

>>24947921
>Les Miserables for Cunnysette!
Su esperanza no la cifren
Nunca en corazón alguno,
En el mayor infortunio
Pongan su confianza en Dios;
De los hombres, sólo en uno;
6940 Con gran precaución, en dos.

Las faltas no tienen límites
Como tienen los terrenos;
Se encuentran en los más buenos,
Y es justo que les prevenga.
6945 Aquel que defectos tenga,
Disimule los agenos.

Al que es amigo, jamás
Lo dejen en la estacada
Pero no le pidan nada
6950 Ni lo aguarden todo de él:
Siempre el amigo más fiel
Es una conduta honrada.

Ni el miedo, ni la codicia
Es bueno que a uno lo asalten;
6955 Ansí no se sobresalten
Por los bienes que perezcan.
Al rico nunca le ofrezcan
Y al pobre jamás le falten.

Bien lo pasa hasta entre pampas
6960 El que respeta a la gente.
El hombre ha de ser prudente
Para librarse de enojos;
Cauteloso entre los flojos,
Moderao entre valientes.

6965 El trabajar es la ley
Porque es preciso alquirir.
No se espongan a sufrir
Una triste situación:
Sangra mucho el corazón
6970 Del que tiene que pedir.

Debe trabajar el hombre
Para ganarse su pan,
Pues la miseria, en su afán
De perseguir de mil modos,
6975 Llama en la puerta de todos
Y entra en la del haragán.

A ningún hombre amenacen,
Porque naides se acobarda;
Poco en conocerlo tarda
6980 Quien amenaza imprudente;
Que hay un peligro presente
Y otro peligro se aguarda

Para vencer un peligro,
Salvar de cualquier abismo,
6985 Por esperencia lo afirmo:
Más que el sable y que la lanza
Suele servir la confianza
Que el hombre tiene en sí mismo.

Nace el hombre con la astucia
6990 Que ha de servirle de gula;
Sin ella sucumbiría;
Pero, sigún mi esperencia,
Se vuelve en unos prudencia
Y en los otros picardía.

Do not place your hope
Never in any heart,
In the greatest misfortune
Put your trust in God;

>>24947984
Of men, only in one;

6940 With great caution, in two.

Faults have no limits
Like the land;

They are found in the best of men,
And it is right to warn them.

6945 He who has faults,
Let him overlook those of others.

Never
Leave a friend in the lurch
But do not ask anything of him
6950 Nor expect everything from him:
The most faithful friend
Is always an honorable conduct.

Neither fear nor greed
It is good that one should be assailed;

6955 Thus do not be alarmed
By possessions that perish.

Never offer anything to the rich
And never let the poor go without.

He fares well even among the pampas
6960 He who respects others.

A man must be prudent
To avoid anger;
Cautious among the lazy,
Moderate among the brave.

https://youtu.be/PPfZAt1KNTo

>>24947942
IIRC Buenos Aires is the city with the most used book stores per m2

>>24943388
>Which books should I read to best understand the argentinian soul?
They are essentially southern Europeans who really enjoy life and can handle the cold.

Of course, nothing that happens in the Northern Hemisphere really matters, although all innovation is welcome. The ancient Romans incorporated ideas from the ancient barbarians, as well as anything else that comes out of Africa with good inventiveness.

The Europeans were defeated by the Huns with their little ponies. How is this possible? with small arrows


Meanwhille in argentina, any pampa horse is a giant

https://youtu.be/I2z5pxNK09Y

>>24948003
>IIRC Buenos Aires is the city with the most used book stores per m2

https://youtu.be/2G2FL7iUIWI

The only thing left for me to say, and perhaps what reflects the soul of every Argentinian, is that

you don't play around with food. Therefore, no gaucho will understand that horse meat is eaten in Spain.

In Argentina, horse meat is not sold. It's like saying your most loyal dog could be roasted in some Asian restaurant.

>>24948042
>eaten in Spain.
you don't have to go that far. right across the border in chile they eat charqui.

>>24947280


NO CREES QUE, SI YO FUERA ARGENTINO, HUBIERA ESCRITO «SOMOS», EN VEZ DE «SON»?

>>24947984
>Al que es amigo, jamás
>Lo dejen en la estacada
>Pero no le pidan nada
>6950 Ni lo aguarden todo de él:
>Siempre el amigo más fiel
>Es una conduta honrada.

Never abandon a true friend.
But don't ask anything of him.
6950 Nor expect everything from him:
The most faithful friend is always an honorable conduct.
El Día del Amigo (20 de julio en Argentina y otros países) fue creado por el argentino Enrique Febbraro, un odontólogo y profesor, inspirado por la llegada del hombre a la Luna en 1969, viéndolo como un símbolo de unidad humana. Propuso la fecha enviando miles de cartas a cien países, obteniendo gran respuesta, y la celebración se oficializó en la provincia de Buenos Aires en 1979.

Friendship Day (July 20th in Argentina and other countries) was created by Enrique Febbraro, an Argentinian dentist and professor, inspired by the 1969 moon landing, which he saw as a symbol of human unity. He proposed the date by sending thousands of letters to one hundred countries, receiving a great response, and the celebration was officially established in the province of Buenos Aires in 1979.

https://youtu.be/zTN7lFc-ncw

Attention! This is not a tango

https://youtu.be/F7G6gRfWpa4?list=PLg75mNkQaj2mn8UasO7oLi7FuqpxnmN8N

https://youtu.be/VPbNgRvB-vU?list=RDVPbNgRvB-vU

Buy an Argentinian for what he says, and sell him for what he's worth.
https://youtu.be/SDgG8cV052E?list=RDSDgG8cV052E

https://youtu.be/a6c9tj9dFMg

>>24948076
>NO CREES QUE, SI YO FUERA ARGENTINO, HUBIERA ESCRITO «SOMOS», EN VEZ DE «SON»?

https://youtu.be/x1jjDyOaKMk

>son ellos nosotros ustedes, vos sos


>>24948075
>you don't have to go that far. right across the border in chile they eat charqui.

https://youtu.be/C4ELzf0u7Q8?t=163

Of course, fruit salads didn't exist in the pampas, but bitter mate prevented the vitamin C deficiency that the sailors suffered from; Chileans don't drink yerba mate.

Dios mío por qué siempre tiene que entrar un autista a postear puras citas? Si máquina, yo también puedo leer la fuente primaria

>>24948076
yo creo que te estas haciendo el lindo.
que sos sino argentino?

>>24943418
>>24945433
>>24947827
>>24946621
Do you any recs on italo-argentine writers instead?
Any kind of literature, not just about Argentina