How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize. I never learn to use those fancy words like epistomoleogoogy; i only learn what they kinda mean but i never have a sure feeling of it and have to look it up all the time. Is philosophy only for high iq people? I feel utterly lost so much so i don't even bother to talk about it with other people.
Mathematics. Doing interesting babby math and seeing how verbal descriptions map onto symbolic expressions, and doing some etymology on the side like where the words and concepts come from.For your homework I give you this, how can you show that a given vector field is solenoidal?Then you can go 'hmmm what is a solenoid, what does it mean if an abstract thing like a vector field has the property of "being like a solenoid" '.
>>24946020philosophy is just understanding life and finding meaning for persisting, fancy words are to be used when you want to convey a concept that sounds clunky when dumbed down or loses meaningtalking about philosophy (should be) about wanting to see different perspectives on the same idea and how to reach the truth behind the assertion, someone makes a statement, you try to play devil's advocate on it by presenting a counter argument / point or if you truly believe the statement you extrapolate on it / talk more about it to enrich your knowledge of the topictalking about philosophy just for the sake of using big words and sounding cool is silly, no philosophy is not only for high IQ people most people who know how to parrot philosophy are dumb as a wet brickif you want "high iq" philosophy stuff you would have to talk to another philosopher about it to learn more about it and find the limits of what your mind even thinks about and can graspa sign of a smart person is that they can dumb it down to the point that everyone can understand it, if someone keeps using big words and convolutes the message it is a sign that he's a idiot who learned vocabulary and is trying to hide his ineptness on it by dazzling people with jargon
>>24946022fucking perfect example of a idiot who learned jargon to dazzledon't be like him, throwing "big words" at people to convolute your message to make yourself seem smart is the dumbass approach, just find a way to break the topic down to so small pieces that the fact that you can present it to a layman and have them understand you is a sign of intelligencespeak to your audience, if you're in a room full of fart sniffers who muse about the trajectory of a football then go for jargon and equally nonce behavior
>>24946020just start thinking and boom youre philosophizinglove of wisdom, as long as you love to think and love wisdom youre good
>>24946020Philosophy is for people who are not content with a life of base pleasures. The restless urge to understand and find higher ground where lasting contentment may lie. Philosophers are a soulful people, and most people aint got one ya dig, my diggity dog?If u think words matter then u already lost
>>24946026How would you have reworded what he said?
>>24946026This. If you cant explain something to a 5 year old, then you don't understand it.
>>24946020i don't think it's about iq.mainly you have to care about the things the philosophers are discussing, you need to bring some amount of imagination to the texts.epistemology doesn't mean anything until you really project yourself into the mind of a medieval monk looking out from his cell at all the creatures that scurry about the monastery garden and wondering what strange force animates them and how he can discover it.free will doesn't mean anything until you can picture yourself as a modernist artist in his Paris attic who realises he can paint anything he wants and yet feels his choice doesn't matter because it's all going to get crushed under the engine of world war.you need to have a sense of what's at stake in philosophical questions. >>24946202dumb cliche.i think philosophy is only worthwhile if it's always trying to stay true to some deep background sense of culture and history and human experience, a sense which your average 5 year old won't possess.
>philosophyRead Plato, imitate Socrates. Ask questions and when you trip on contradictions ask yourself why it happened. Eventually, you'll build a mental heuristic that estranges you from the common man and you'll find the kind of solitude that comes from living the examined life intoxicating. The final boss of philosophy is akin to the hero's journey - finding a socially acceptable way to share you knowledge and integrate yourself among your fellow man in a meaningful way. This of course assumes you have an IQ of at least 120. Any lower than that and you're just larping and should just stick to sex and alcohol to cope with your mediocrity.
>>24946020You weren't supposed to read philosophy books like novels, that's your first problem. Dissect it.
>>24946202enjoy explaining what a spinor is to a 5 year old
>>24946513>no, we're not going to Disneyland. Baudrillard rightfully warned us about the dangers of replacing the real with the hyperreal and I will not allow a superficial culture of consumer trash to be perpetuated by our participation in inauthentic manufactured experiences so you can develop faux nostalgia and mental illnesses I'll have to pay for later in the form of therapy and resilience training>"wahhh jason's dad is cooler">yea well jason's mom is a whore
>>24946026Find a big word in what I typed.>A solenoid (/ˈsoʊlənɔJd/[1]) is a type of electromagnet formed by a helical coil of wire whose length is substantially greater than its diameter.>early 19th century: from French solénoïde, from Greek sōlēn ‘channel, pipe’.
>>24946020There's no learning it. It comes from a need of understanding and questioning the whys and hows. Dig deeper into your own questioning about things, try to connect dots and come up with answers, and you're already philosophizing.>>24946022Mechanical descriptions are not philosophy. Math is a sterile tool, an incredibly useful one, but still a mere tool, like a hammer or a saw. Nothing else.Fuck off, human calculator. Bzz bzz.
>>24946724When Faraday had his famous public lectures he deliberately used the word 'philosophize' when presenting an experiement to the masses.
Someone said good poetry is the culmination of thoughts until there becomes a natural impulse to let it out, like scratching an itch. I would imagine philosophy is the same. You need to immerse yourself deeper in the subjects that interest you until it becomes a necessity to reformulate what you have learned in your own way.But why would you want to write philosophy if you clearly have nothing to say? Silly frogposter.
>>24946750So? He used math to formally describe and prove his hypothesis, not to come up with the hypothesis itself. Like I said, it’s a tool.
>>24946020By asking questions. Some are answered by practical sciences, others by thought alone. If you can read a passage and disagree, you're philosophizing
I cant do anything but metaphysics and no matter how robust or where I started I always ended back at soul slavery. I moved to a different subject.
>>24946202Explain Godel's theorems like im five
>>24946020The anons saying it's about inquiring and asking questions are on the mark, or, at least, that's how philosophizing starts. The two main approaches amount to 1) theorizing from the start, or 2) taking account of the predominant or highest opinions related to your questions, investigating them, and theorizing from there. The end sought is wisdom or knowledge of the matters your questions are about, either fully as that wisdom seemed to amount to at the start, or a wisdom qualified by what's achievable as wisdom. Whether there are methods philosophy uses is a bit more of an open question, to the extent that satisfying oneself that it uses formal logic or experiment may be an opinion that itself requires becoming more clear about (that's not to say it's wrong, but it's taking as given what may need to be reasoned about for oneself). If you can take the first step of both becoming clear about the questions, and what you believe right now about those subjects and why, you'll at least be on the way to beginning to philosophize.
>>24946772>Mathematics is a sterile toolThe first anon who namedropped math is a faggot. But:>[...] Culture is a privilege which, in this days, gives power to the class that posses it.>Let us try to undermine this privilege by relating complicated knowledge to the commonest knowledge. It is for this reason that you ought to study, and mathematics above all. Indeed, unless one has exercised one’s mind seriously at the gymnastic of mathematics one is incapable of precise thought, which amounts to saying that one is good for nothing.—Simone Weil. To a pupil (1934)https://archive.org/details/simoneweilsevent0000unse
>>24946921What is that TERRIBLE HAIRSTYLE???!!!
When i put my writings into GBT it says im a philosopher with interesting ideas
>>24946932honestly? i think it looks great. suits her.
>>24946020its a bell curve. Master of philosophy uses simple and concise words. Midwit philosophizer uses the thesaurus with veracity of someone being paid by the word. You need a direction. Are you contemplating society? What counter arguments can others bring and what is your answer to them? How does the idea translate into reality? Generally avoid stuff that requires/is build on accepting an unsubstantiated premise.
>>24946020According to chatbot soon to be overlord, GenZ likes Aquinas, Nietzsche, Marx, and Camus. Dosto also made it in there too. I can see why these guys are popular.Since you're still hung up on IQ I ask you to consult pic related. You don't have to leave grog. People will always tell you that you might be better there or worse there but you won't know for sure. If you make it to Wittgenstein you fully understand the everything is an accident from linguistic confusion thing and you can't know if you were better or worse off regardless of what anyone says so keep that in mind. Enjoy the midwit phase while you can. Once that passes you're stuck and the best you can manage is a flattening into grogstein.
