>match with woman on dating app>we both have literature as shared interests>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??">"I'm more into the classics">"but what's your favorite genre? Do you like sci fi?>"I like transcendentalist literature">"oh ok"Why do they ask
>>24947357I use bumble and one of their set conversation openers is "What is one book you think everyone should read and why?". Without fail, no matter what I say, they tell me they haven't read the book and it leads to a blown opening. I've tried probably a dozen widely read classics, and even among women who self-select to discuss literature, I've gotten completely blanked
>>24947390Women do not read. They do not.
>>24947357Anon, come on... there are so many ways to play this better. You need to stop being honest with women. Be tangential. Tell her you like a lot of stuff and then mention something romantic you've read recently or something... stop being direct and blunt. You hopeless fool... You could have mention Walt Whitman or something... Enjoy beating off for the rest of your life.
>im into age/rape play erotic novels. mayhaps we could discuss them in person, in my dungeon.
>>24947414I don't read genre fiction what am I supposed to say
>>24947390when women say they like to read what they mean is they like fantasy pornograpy slop
>>24947454Not that anon, but it's not really about the topic being discussed so much as how you're making her feel about herself when she talks to you. Women view everything in a vaguely cinematic lens now, so make her feel like she's starting an interesting new scene in the romcom movie starring her, and she's good.
>>24947357>>24947390Fools. You literally just have to show passion when you talk about it. It's that fucking simple. Pick your favorite book and say something substantial about why you like it. Don't forget to ask them questions. This won't lead to sex but it will lead to a date. Show interest in her and show her you are passionate about your hobbies.
>>24947357>>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??">>"I'm more into the classics"autism
>>24947357>classics>transcendentalist literaturethat's where you went wrong
>have a nice conversation with a young lass>she tells me to add her on onlyfans>mfw I was flirting with some Indian guy for an hour
>>24947429kill yourself
>>24947357Okay, I will spell it out for your since most of you are autistic. And instead of social relations I will use sales.Imagine you want to sell a car. You get an internet sales lead.Do you:>A) Send them some (but not too many leaving some to the imagination until their visit) photos, a carfax and ask them when they can come in to see the car and drive it? >B) Tell them absolutely everything about the car, Go line by line with them over the entire window sticker. Tell them the life story of every owner the car has had. Do a 45 minute video demo drive. Explain the design history and philosophy of the car. 3d scan the car into cad and send the a virtual model.Ahem. AUTISTIC RETARD, you are selling the meeting, not the product, in an initial online dating interaction. If she swiped right on you, its enough or she's just there for validation, in which case you never had a shot regardless.Your ONLY job is to just be normal. BE. NORMAL. To convince her you're not some freak that spends his whole day on a message board advocating various dead politically extreme ideologies. That's it. That it is safe to meet you, wont be embarrassing to be out with you, that you offer a moderately more interesting time than sitting in bed watching New Girl for the 19th time.It is not to know and be known deep into the recesses of your soul by what is a chat box and a few photos of a girl in swimsuit making a stupid face next to a numerically shaped balloon.
>>24947659bro got literal ZUTTED
I’ve gotten laid after telling non-gamer girls about bloodborne lore. I think you guys just don’t know how to talk to women.
>>24947837>I talk to women about my warhammer hobby all the time, they say its super interesting. maybe you guys ought to try just being yourselves sometimes.
>>24947846Even if you are ugly you should be yourself. You won’t get laid being a disingenuous and ugly try-hard. Just be yourself and don’t be fat. If that doesn’t work you just got unlucky with genetics.
>dating app makes me choose liberal or conservative when I'm a communist
>>24947854Do you honestly believe that the billions of well adjusted, socially integrated, and romantically successful people on this planet who all like The Office, Step Brothers, Game of Thrones, Football, Tie-dye wall hangings, roasted bean water and avocado toast came to these identical conclusion in taste by "being themselves".You're an idiot.
>>24947871Is this argument that I should become a tasteless retard to more easily attract other tasteless retards? Are you projecting because you put tye dye wall hanging up to sleep with a mediocre woman? I've had no problem getting girls talking about dungeon crawlere and Japanese psych bands and horror anthologies. I'm a solid 5 but last time I posted some guy freaked out and said I was too attractive to understand the struggle.
>>24947871just be yourself and you’re automatically more desirable than any of those fags. it isn’t hard. just don’t be fat and be yourself. who cares how the npcs found their npcs. you wouldn’t want a woman that likes a tasteless inauthentic guy anyways. you don’t need to take my advice idrc but you’d be better off if you did
>>24947404Women read lotsThey just read trashy romance and fantasy slop
>>24947864Take your self and kill it
>Tell her that ibn Taymiyya compared love to a kind of fever>Without missing a beat she hits back with "that's why ibn Taymiyya never married"I blew it and it's been over a year and I still think about her. I always fall for women way out of my league and it kills me. God I love women so much.
You must remember at all times as a man that a woman feels zero obligation to maintain a connection between the two of you. All the pressure is on you. You as a man could meet another man, and find each other interesting enough to sustain mutual banter for a moment, and then if you sensed a bit of shyness on the man's part or a momentary awkward silence you would, out of courtesy and empathy, step in and give the conversation a little boost of momentum by asking a new question. A woman feels no such obligation. She has no empathy for you, she is a being to whom courtesy is owed, not the other way around. You exist to entertain her. The instant you do not entertain her you cease to exist. Every failure is your fault. Every success feels like a fluke. No matter how she acted or felt, no matter what she did, YOU could have done something better to "keep her interested," "woo" her, etc. YOU are the agent. Anything she says is a black box. If she says something that seems to invite conversation, you will find out post hoc that you are an inept retard loser, because you didn't know that taking it seriously and responding ingenuously was "pathetic," "desperate," "trying too hard," etc. After a lifetime of 99% humiliating fizzles and failures, 1% successes that make just as little sense, you will not feel any more confident or certain of what women value in you than when you started.Woman says "Talk to me about Dostoevsky" in her profile. You love Dostoevsky - you get excited, right? It should be easy to talk to her, right? WRONG, RETARD! Enjoy saying something about Dostoevsky to her and getting "ok lol?" in response, then ghosted. Then enjoy your next long term relationship resulting from you drunkmessaging "sup" to a girl out of your league on Bumble while taking a shit and not even looking at her profile, forgetting about it, ghosting her for two days (which she later tells you she interpreted as "a challenge"), and initially following up only for sex.
>>24947429faggot
>>24947414>stop being direct and bluntI should have known this. I was having a conversation with a woman a work. We were discussing about animal welfare and meat consumption. I said that eating a dead animal is not wrong; what's more important is treating a live animal well. She was of the opinion that it's wrong to consume animal flesh, more wrong than in fact eating a human flesh since animals cannot consent. Somehow the conversation moved on to human life and flesh and at one point I averred that there's nothing sacred about the human body, that what gives it dignity and sacredness is the life in it. Then she asked me if necrophilia is wrong, to which I replied that it is "considered wrong" but not wrong in the objectively. The conversation went on for a while but she apparently wasn't convinced and keeps saying that's disgusting.
I always fall in love with the same woman: beautiful, intelligent, high performing, an immigrant without a strong father figure in her childhood, with an almost palpable air of sadness around her. The kind of woman who neurotically strives for stability and achievement to compensate for her shitty childhood, but who is smart enough to get bored with that kind of life. Maybe its the tension between those things that always draws me in, idk, but this is the forth or fifth time now its happened and i cant help but notice the pattern.We only knew eachother two days, but I felt like she saw me, you know? Like she looked right into me and saw the things that i cared about, because they were things she cared about to. And she was genuinely impressive too. When she talked about history or global trade it would floor me sometimes. She had that mind of animated, broad, critical intelligence that is a joy to behold. I knew her two days, but i feel like i could spend the rest of my life getting to know her.But she was married. And didnt want to cheat on her husband, although god knows how many times it was hinted at in our conversations. She seemed lonely, a first rate mind without any projects or sparing partners, and had rushed into that marriage like i can only assume she rushes into everything in life. We talked for a long time about our life, our ambitions, our pains, our past marriages. She had a cruel side to her, and a deep need to be loved. There was a lot we had in common. For two days i got to know this woman, and now shes gone forever, and I hate myself that i didnt throw myself at her feet and ask her to leave her husband and elope with me, as if some correct combination of words and gestures could have made things turn out differently. But now its over, and im heart broken, even though i have no right to be.
>>24948012>Then she asked me if necrophilia is wrong, to which I replied that it is "considered wrong"I don't think your problem is being blunt anon...
>>24948018You're gay.
>>24947357>transcendentalistshe was right to reject you, transcendentalism was the path from puritanism to being openly the slaves of the jews who are the sons of satan>>24947357>"the classics">>"I like transcendentalist literature"this is dismissive of her interest in you and shows a lack of interest in describing things to her
>>24948020What do you think was the problem then? That I somehow gave the indication that I was a necrophiliac? I was talking from a disinterested perspective.
>>24948012ask her how many insects she's killed in her home
>>24948035There's your problem, women want a man with passion.
you retards need to learn how to hide your power level>t. egoism enjoyer
>>24948012Unironically you did the right thing in this instance. If she was actually disgusted, she would have reacted differently.
>>24947390It's supposed to be a flirty opening. You're supposed to name a romantasy book where the girl is dominated and then tell them "because I want to prepare women for how I will treat them in bed" or something along those lines. Bumble is supposed to be easy lightweight conversations not sonnets about the meaning of life and your personal journey of spiritual growth.
>>24947357You don't like literature, you like to tell people you're smart, whether or not that's true.
I never used dating apps in my life. But what I can tell from this thread is that too many guys here are disingenuous. It's extremely important to not show a fake face or a strawman of a fake version of yourself to others. This is what people mean with "be yourself". You still need to be presentable, follow the rules of social conduct and use the right time for the right topics. But it's very important to not be fake in any way shape or form.I didn't have a lot of relationships in life. Not because I wasn't successful, but because I was. The relationships I had lasted a long time and only ended because of external factors beyond our control. There never was a sense of me having to perform or do more than just being myself and I feel extremely bad for both men and women that have to play pretend just to feel love, so don't do it.Also delete your social media app. It's 2025. That shit is outdated. All my female friends say dating apps are for losers that can't get laid without apps. You find partners through mutual friends, preferably of the opposite sex. If you don't have friends of the opposite sex then you have bigger problems in your life you should address first.
>>24947946this is no more reading than watching an ad on tv is watching cinema
>>24948035>disinterested perspectiveNo wonder why you retards cant get laid. Women love passion.
>>24948091Jokes on them, I don't even get laid with the apps. People who measure their value by 'getting laid' are lame. People who have friends are lame. Your normie life is pathetic, why are you even on /lit/?
>>24947357>pretends to be to niche for normies to understand >uses dating apps Lmao
>>24948099I'm on /lit/ because I read books for 3 - 4 hours a day. It's how I spend my pleasure time after work. I don't even own a TV or laptop. Only my smartphone that I need for work. My SO also spends her time reading.I like /lit/ being anonymous and people being able to truly speak their minds. This place isn't supposed to be a hugbox for losers. I don't have a lot of friends but the ones I have are extremely close and high quality, as things should be.
>>24948070Please do not do this anons
>>24948091> Also delete your social media app. It's 2025. That shit is outdated. All my female friends say dating apps are for losers that can't get laid without appsthere is no greater red flag to modern young women than not having social media presence
>>24947871>came to these identical conclusion in taste by "being themselves".Yes, the appeal of all those things is obvious and their popularity will follow a normal distribution.>all these people came the identical conclusion that they like food!?Yes.
