Everything you call "living" is just a massive cope to disguise the fact that your biology is desperately trying to return to the inorganic state it crawled out of. You think you have a will to power or life goals but that's just a mask for the will to nothingness. You are essentially a complicated rock that unfortunately gained consciousness and is now taking a circuitous path back to being a rock. The science is clear that the inanimate existed before us and the only real drive is to restore that silence, meaning your entire existence is just a temporary glitchy detour toward the grave. The universe is indifferent, cosmic extinction is guaranteed, and when the heat death of the universe hits it will be like none of this ever happened, so stop deluding yourself that this life is anything other than a long pointless walk back to zero.
so why are you still alive op
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>>24949210Why would top make me wanna kill myself? I trust my instincts
>>24949210retard
>>24949184This will be extremely concerning news for anyone who values their conscious experience solely because they're under the impression that it's older than a rock.
Nah, my biology definitely wants to live.
Why do you keep making this thread?
>>24949236nihilists are generally pretty bad at coming up with meaningful ways to spend their time
>>24949184>British philosopher that didn't go to OxbridgeOpinion discarded.
>>24949210I want you to livestream your suicide, pussy
>>24949210Depressed people only kill themselves because their suicidal instinct tells them to do so.
I don't want to die, therefore I don't kill myself.If I wanted to die, I would kill myself.
>>24949184Based.
>>24949184i don't understand your justification for either of these two premises you seem to hold:>nothing has value unless it lasts forever>nothing has value unless its aims are the same as its causes
>>24949210>I have a single disabled homeless friend with AIDS and he's happy. He also has a gf
>>24949243I know but he's made this same thread like half a dozen times at least
>>24949184Nihilism is a self defeating belief since believing in nothing is itself a belief in something. It is simply an animalistic self loathing used to evade responsibility for one’s duties. The current paradigm of physics and cosmology is wrong just as previous paradigm have been wrong. This is just an aspect of the modern worldview made more clear. Modern man’s desire for power and belief in his own godhood, wanting to control everything and turn reality into base material so that he can reform reality into a creation that exists only to pleasure him.
>>24949290Are you misinterpreting Nietzsche?
>>24949278well, stab him then!
This type of view is far too backwards looking. It ignores that several genuine miracles have occurred, and a materialist can grant these as miracles either in the statistical sense or in the more profound sense of the inherent potentiality of matter in motion (or dialectical materialism if you will), which are the “emergence” of the existence of matter in the first place (this can be either temporal or the eternal miracle of existence’s inherent existence, its existential inertia), the coalescence of matter into complex inorganic systems, the emergence of organic self-replicating systems, the emergence of consciousness out of those organic self-replicating systems and the possibility of natural systems to consciously intervene in the unfolding of phenomena (labor and History), and the (rapid) emergence of more and more complex social formations out of these systems, each step is genuinely unthinkable on the basis of prior systems, matter is imminently developing ever more unthinkable systems of organisation. Mao talked about how after epochs of human development, communism itself would end, the human itself would be superseded, that this self-supersession is inherent to human conduct and all matter, that the universe, all reality is a non-teleological non-subject developing itself immanently into Something, a not-yet that isn’t yet even implicit. What is it? Idk more interesting than nihilism.
>>24949184>the only real driveYou are talking about one of the two major drives according to Freud: Thanatos. Todestrieb. The death drive. But there's also Eros, lebenstriebe or the life drive. Maybe life isn't that perfectly dialectical, but why would it so unidimensional?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive>The universe is indifferentThis is meaningless. The universe is an indifferent thing? What do you mean by that? I know thanks to context that you mean that we are not important in the greater scheme of things, but saying "the universe is [adjective of psychological origin]" is essentially metaphorical, there is no clear, primary meaning to this arrange of subject and predicate.Indifference is a psychological quality. Using a moral instead of psychological example, is Saturn inherently evil? You could say Saturn is indifferent as in outside of moral considerations, but can Saturn or the universe be psychologically indifferent? What do you mean by that? Are you implying some sort of anthropomorphised pantheism?
