>name a more manly, masculine, virile workyou can't
>>24950687
>>24950687Which translation, tho?
>>24950687>You need glory because.. erm.. you just do, okay?
>>24950687This is a tale of heroes, but i recall schiller saying beauty is not to be found in heroic virtues. Come to think of it, he does come off as a mawkish faggot.
>>24950687If you ever get around to reading the rest of the cycle you'll find you are being a childish twit.
>>24950687>manly, masculine, virileJust come out already
>>24950747the iliad is not beautiful.
>>24951128You're a mawkish faggot
>>24951257It is a tale of ugly war and tragedy. Look at what they did to get there. Look at what happened afterwards. It is a lynchpin of a larger tragedy. A cautionary tale, a warning against this "masculine virility">Muh manly tears! WEAKNESS.
>>24950687My diary.
>>24951257the iliad isn't beautiful, it's exciting and huge and terrible. one classicist put it 'the iliad is not beautiful but sublime; the aeneid is not sublime but beautiful.’ homer's style is his proper semi-barbaric flavour.
>>24951260It's not a tragedy, but still there is beauty to be derived from tragic objects. Through pity and terror, emotional tension can be released. It's the whole deal with catharsis aristotle says in the poeticsYou sound profoundly autistic, low IQ and incapable of thinking past the common values of your milieu.
>>24951282As the anon above said, the Iliad is better described as sublime than beautiful
>>24951297But that's a silly and shallow as fuck wordgame becase they are interchangeable. Go to hell both of you dweebs
>>24950696Gay>>24950701Incredibly masculine>>24950741I mean, yeah
>>24951112the rest of the cycle doesn't exist aside from the Odyssey, faggot
>>24951300>they are interchangeable.This is certainly not true, even if you include the sublime as a subset of the beautiful. Regardless, even if the modern usage of beautiful has expanded to include the sublime I think it’s better in discussions like this to use a finer vocabulary
