Is this the life all incels are so envious of? Truth is, most marriages were and still are much of hate towards the partner, if there is no passion to be found. And that happens for almost all couples if the other one is mentally unstable or otherwise literal child in a grown up body. Stoner was too good for Edith, but also a total loser for simping for her in the first place. They ruined each others lives and just kept going on with it. Also ruined the life of their child and made them an alcoholic. Can't tell if that life would be better than being without pussy desu (which Stoner did for most of his life anyway). So the question now is, how – if anyhow – should a man of intelligence pursue women? Just fuck a college pussy for a semester and be reminiscent of it for a lifetime like Stoner did?
>>24951006Feminism ruined Stoner. Two decades in the past and he could've just put his psycho flapper wife in the loony bin and continued fucking his student, marry her, and keep his kid.
>>24951009Hard if. Men still in the current age are facing trouble getting custody for their child. Even if the mother is psychotic, she has greater chance of having the child (if there is no alcohol or substance use).
>>24951006> should a man of intelligence pursue women?There's no "should", just do whatever the hell you want and think is best.Personally, I tried it once, it was too much work and too much drama, I got dumped, sobbed about it for a year, then accepted it and have been going it alone since (about 6 years now). So far it's been OK.
>>24951131Doing "whatever the hell you want" leads to unfortunate situations, like what happened to you, me, Stoner or any other fool that trusted "love" whole heartily. Quote from the book: >... the person one loves at first is not the person one loves at last, and that love is not an end but a process through which one person attempts to know anotherI interpret the quote that people change and you should too. But the thing is, shouldn't we try to aim for love that will not hurt us later on in life?
>>24951006As far as I’m concerned, all marriage is “gay” marriage.
>>24951189Yes, it is theatrical act. But the question was more about relationships with women overall.
>>24951180> leads to unfortunate situationsIt's not true of every pair (ignoring the polygamists for the sake of simplicity) of people. Some will genuinely go on to love each other until death and ultimately be happier together than they would have been separate, and continue to change in ways that are compatible with each other throughout life. Some will end up like me, you, or Stoner.The point is, none of this is certain. Life is ultimately the stock market - you invest time, mental and physical resources, and sometimes also money in various pursuits, and some of them have positive payoff in terms of utility, some zero, and some negative (you've gained nothing and it's ultimately made you less happy). This includes anything from a career, to participating in a political movement, to pursuring a relationship with a particular person.How much return you expect from any bet going either way, and how likely you expect any of these contingencies to be are estimations you will make yourself, these are ultimately subjective - no one has a crystal ball. Your risk appetite - outcomes with what utility at what probabilities you want to pursue - are also subjective. That's what I mean by "do whatever the hell you want". I personally expect the chances that I'll find a person I'll be happy with low, the unhappiness I will incur from finding the wrong person is high, and have a low risk tolerance, so I stay the hell out. But these are choices I've made for myself, not a universal prescription.
>>24951009>Men still in the current age are facing trouble getting custody for their child.>Men stillYour phrasing makes it seem like you mistakenly believe that it was "harder" for men to get custody in the past. Pre-1900 that would have been entirely unheard of. Women have more rights and legal privileges now than they ever have.
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>>24951006I'm madly in love with my Japanese girl gamer wife. We cuddle every single day and the sex is great. Sometimes she just walks around the house saying my name to herself like it's a spell that makes her happy. It could all come crashing down one day, but if that ever happens I'll just pick up a high school girl at a train station and marry her.
>>24951006>So the question now is, how – if anyhow – should a man of intelligence pursue women?You ask women you’re attracted to on a date, if they say no then that’s fine you move on to the next. You get used to the idea that not everything is meant to last. You look for a woman who genuinely interests you and you don’t settle for lesss than you want. Most men problem is they settle or put up with nonsense. You can control your own fate but you can’t be a pussy about it. There’s no simping here because you aren’t afraid to lose anything and just move on if it ain’t right. Marriages always end too late, those motherfuckers knew earlier it wasn’t right but stuck around anyways because of societal expectations or whatever. Just dump your retarded gf it’s not rocket science.
>>24951131Personally I think i should be able to empty my balls into any woman I want.