Ever since the internet turned against atheism sometime during the second Obama term, “atheism” itself became a dirty word. Suddenly everyone who was an atheist just a few years before become an expert in Thomism or heyschasm, and decided that believing in evidence was cringe. Religious zoomers started acting like they “won the culture war.” Funny how that works. Since y'all are either literal zoomers who were toddlers during the heyday of new atheism or have the memory of goldfish, imagine it’s 1990 so you can understand why New Atheism mattered. You’re stuck in an evangelical megachurch. The pastor is telling you dinosaurs lived with humans, AIDS is God’s punishment, Israel is our greatest ally, and questioning anything means you’re going to hell. This is also the same institution quietly covering for youth pastors who “fell into sin,” preaching family values while funneling donations into private jets, and condemning divorce from the pulpit while half the elders are on their second or third marriage. This wasn’t fringe, it was normal. Teachers, politicians, parents all nodding along. New Atheism wasn’t about being edgy online. It was a backlash to decades of religious dominance that people memory-holed because 4cuck told them to. Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, were abrasive. So? That was the point. Polite disagreement didn’t work with creationist christcuck retards controlling the government and schools trying to ban stem cell research because muh “soulz”Now fast-forward to today and suddenly everyone pretends religion is this harmless aesthetic hobby and atheism is the real extremism. As if the progress of the last 30 years just happened magically. As if secularism didn’t have to fight for every inch. New Atheism didn’t fail. It succeeded so hard that people forgot why it existed and now they’re turning back the clock because irony poisoned their brains. But sure, keep pretending “both sides are cringe” while pastors are back on TikTok telling kids the Earth is 6,000 years old and Drumpf is bringing back dead jew worship in schools. Have fun when you're living in Christian ISIS and shitposting is banned. At least you owned le redditors online.
>>24951979Go back redditnigger
>>24951979The problem with your argument is that Luther's protestantism was the exact same thing but Christian.
>>24951979I was too young to remember the 90s, and I am not American, so I'll take you at your word about how it was. For what it's worth I share your position, although I can't claim having arrived at it (my parents were a lapsed jew and an ex-commie Russian woman, so I was raised atheist and somewhat anticlerical).But I disagree with you about why atheism has lost relevance. I think people feel extremely uncertain now. I can't really say why, but if I had to guess, mostly because of the overabundance of information, that developed extremely rapidly, in historical terms. To some extent economic factors can also be blamed. At any rate: when people feel uncertain, they need some kind of unassailable hope, a solid handhold, and religion provides that. For some people (usually those who grew up in super-strict ultra-religious families) they substitute religion for progressive ideology, but they remain with the same zeal and ideological puritanism.Ultimately, atheism is a luxury of those who are not afraid. Some people have an exceptional control of themselves and can remain atheists "in the trenches", metaphorically, but most cannot.Another factor, but this is probably more prevalent in the US, is that being an atheist is strictly a losing move politically. If you have political ambitions, declaring atheist convictions has no benefits and a ton of costs. I guess that's being a country founded by ultra-trad protestants for you.Ultimately, such is the state of the world that nobody is particularly interested in glorifying us any more. I don't really mind that, I live in an overwhelmingly religious (christian) area and I don't really feel any imposition from christians. Abortions are illegal and that makes recreational sex difficult, but I'm lucky in that my libido is low and I can remain a volcel easily. That said with muslims it'd probably be worse.
Atheism won. Atheism continues to grow faster than any religion. There is no Christian revival, it's a lie and a cope.
The Hitchens era of Atheism was always incredibly gay and lacked the philosophical depth of 19th century Atheism.
>>24951979>dinosaurs lived with humansawesome>AIDS is God’s punishmentfact>Israel is our greatest allysatanic inversion
>>24952048the Bible says God makes atheists into faggots so youll kmow not to listen to them
>>24952080>>24952085The Bible is not the word of God and Jesus didn't rise from the dead. This christcuck larp is the most pathetic shit you subhumans have tried to push in the last 15 years. Jesus is never coming back and there will never be a Christian revival.
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>>24951979>Materialism or Jewish mystery cultsNo thanks, I'll stick with the Greeks.
>>24952112There aren't any Greek mystery cults leftEverything after Sulla was a giant larp
>>24951979>the most unfairly reviled movement in historyProtestants did it first and did it better and were more punished for it. I'm not aware of a new Spanish Inquisition launched against New Atheists or New Atheist martyrdoms
>>24952098Where's Jesus' body, then?
>>24951979So and so forms of American Walmart Christianity were already nose diving on the negative side of the Y axis, and nu-atheism only added to the negative slope. Two negatives don’t make a positive in this instance. Please give 2015 its meme ideology back.
>>24952125?
>>24952111The bible is true it's just poorly translated in some places and people don't actually read it
>unfairly reviled>implyingThese retards entire worldview was built upon goading religious nutcases. They did absolutely nothing to elevate the discourse. They only added more shit to the pile.
>>24951979Lets not pretend the atheism "movement" isnt also guilts of a lot of the issues in your pic
>>24952160Doesn't Dawkins have a reputation as something of a perv?
>>24951979Interesting how you separate New Atheism from the SJW/Transgender movement. It is a false separation, as you would recall if you weren't a literal child back when New Atheism was taking off.Also note the exclusion of Effective Altruism and the rest of the "Rationalists" who made up a significant portion of vocal NA.
>>24952169All the original anti-SJWs came out of new atheism
Hitchens was too much of a Jewish cocksucker for his own good.
>>24952171So did all of the SJWs.
>>24952179Name some. SJW shit existed well before new atheism, in the 80s and 90s it was just called political correctness but it was the same people doing the same things.
>>24952179Anita Sarkeesian, famed new atheist.
>>24952160Name one atheist who caused the deaths of thousands of humans
>>24952199Hitler Stalin and Mao to start
>>24952199Robespierre, Lenin
I felt something was wrong when I noticed that atheism became unpopular because of fedoras, neckbeards, and embarrassing euphoria pasta instead of any real counterargument. Didn't that also happen with onions?But I have also learned to trust my own experience over facts. This requires some self-confidence that I only acquired once I got older and lazy. I heard about a guy who was pondering over whether to join the army or the navy and a navy recruitment poster flew into his face. When shit like that happens, you don't explain it away as a coincidence. I don't even think about this as a choice. The only option is to believe there was divine intervention. Now another guy might have lost his arms and legs and he can't find any reason why he is still alive. He's going to be an atheist. That's fine. That's understandable.
>>24952202You mean the Catholic who thought legions of Angels were fighting on his side, the Orthodox priest, and the Buddhist? >>24952211The Christcucks they merked weren't human
>>24951979Your elder millennial brain is calcified on this shit. That's why it's still the biggest thing in the world to you while everyone else moved on to other trifles.
>>24951979>condemning divorce from the pulpit while half the elders are on their second or third marriagedivorce destroyed america. who even lifted a single finger against it
>>24952239all the christk1ke boomers not only didn't do anything against it but cheered it on.
>>24952246Boomers are why we're in every possible mess.
>>24952230bruh ong unc really don't be talmbout the new lil gotti and 67 bruh we been moved on
>>24952161he said the experience of getting harry pottered by his boarding school dumbledore didnt affect his life or ideas. the selfish gene concept is not even wrong, the central dogma of biology is more or less true but real biologists know the limitations on the concept, but the whole God is too mean to be real concept is the retarded misplaced rage of a raped retard
>>24952199You can deny God but you can't deny all the bullshit you accuse your opponents of doing.
>>24952246>all the christk1ke boomers not only didn't do anything against it but cheered it on...and todays pastors are no different. the question is how we can go about doing an ezekiel kills all the pastors in israel and replacing them all with people without a master of divinity certification from a faggiversity
>>24952199lemme guess Christ-killers arent atheists
>>24952269rare jewish w
>>24951979Libtards only turned on atheism when it started going after other religions and wouldn’t hop on the intersectional SJW bandwagon in the early 10s, proving it was always just about being anti Christian.
>>24952277Libtard-SJW support of New Atheism was, yes. But the actual new atheist movement itself didn't change its positions and remained against all religions, so that's not a critique of it.
>>24952220If you think Stalin was an orthodox priest I can't help youLet alone Hitler who was rather vocal in his hatred of Catholicism and Christianity as a whole
>>24952277Atheist activists have to admit to a certain degree of cowardice here. While yes, a lot of progressives had their own bone to pick with trads and the alliance with atheists was only situational, atheists also conveniently focused on christianity, because unlike muslims, christians do not tend to proclaim fatwas and send people with knives or bombs against the accuser. I can't say I don't understand them - it's one thing to oppose a respectable but hypocritical sociopolitical establishment, another to oppose people who are ready and willing to kill you.
>>24951979Sounds like the problem is Americans here
>>24952112Platonism -> neo-platonism -> orthodox theology
>>24952441I stop at Plotinus. Im good with the rest. But bless your path anon.
>>24952269>evil hekin atheist>looks inside >jewEvery time
>>24952277Libtards weren't actually in the movement fully, they were just using the movement, because they were the ones who were anti-Christian/anti-western world.>>24952430No, the New Atheist movement was openly anti-Muslim. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Hitchens was very open about being anti-Muslim. You've confused atheists during the time of the New Atheist movement, with atheists that were actually in the New Atheist movement.I'm not really sure that you remember the New Atheist movement very well. The American culture had an anti-Muslim aspect to it, due to 9/11. There was just a push against it, to call it Islamophobic, but that wasn't from the New Atheist movement.There just wasn't much of a Muslim culture in the western world, so you weren't exposed to the New Atheists being anti-Muslim, so your Christcuckery is still searching for persecution.The anti-Muslim approach changed greatly from the early days though. We've been more exposed to the religion and culture. It's no longer that terrorist group from 9/11 but otherwise just a problem for the other side of the planet. It's now something that we're far more familiar with, because the globalists(Jews) ruined our countries, by importing hundreds of thousands of them. We know way more details about their religion and culture, and it just shows that we were right all along, to be anti-Muslim.It's just dumb Christcucks like you, who want to believe that we're just anti-Christian, because the retarded SJWs being all that you remember.
>>24952220>Mao>Buddhist
>>24952199Pol Pot
>>24951979New Atheism = Amazing Atheist shoving a banana up his butt = Gay and cringe
>>24951987fpbpIncredibly lazy meme for an unfathomably asinine thread.
>>24951979The fact that you personally check half the boxes with your behaviour already is indicative that this is a joke but then why not check all the boxes? You're actually serious? Someone this fucked in the head really walks around and solves captchas?
>>24951979It is not in any sense sane or normal to portray yourself as completely and total superior and the other side as monsters.
