>anti-natalism is irrefutab-then let me kill you
>le ebin reddit cat image>hurr ur a nihilist what if i shot yougo back to whatever hole you crawled out of, fiend.
I'm pro anti-natalist for the same reason I'm pro-abortion. If these losers want to remove their loser genes from our collective gene pool I'm not going to stop them.Very cool of them to not reproduce, me and my kids thank them.
Anti-natalism, feminism, materialism, existentialism, rationalism, etc. are just copes from depressed people about how they're """absolutely certain"""" about some supposed evil truth.
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>>24952376Add gnosticism
>>24952376>materialismhow the hell is a scientific paradigm that is backed by hundreds of years of empirical evidence a "cope". found the christcuck. also, OP is a faggot because even if an anti-natalist said "yes" and provided an address, he won't do shit.
>>24952376I can't wait until Khalif Mamdani kills all christkikes
>>24952394Muh science
>>24952394if you keep increasing the resolution of your analysis in science, eventually you get to a point where it stops being purely material
I’m not an anti-natalist but they could reasonably respond you’ve made a false equivalence between never having existed and ceasing to exist. The primary concern of anti-natalists is basically utilitarian, it’s a calculation of suffering - if you kill me now I will suffer a lot for a little bit, people around me are also possibly going to suffer because of my death. None of that would have been the case if I was never born in the first place.“You always kill yourself too late” as Cioran says
>>24952410Next thing you're going to say is that Rupert Sheldrake is a real scientist and Bernardo Kastrup is a legitimate philosopher. Le heckin' consciousnessrino! We are... everything! God exists!
>>24952419If you prevent births you prevent happiness. Therefore from a utilitarian perspective all people should be born.
>>24952410>ifThat's a very cute "if" and all but without approaching or even being concerned by this "if" materialism managed a lot of things like the semiconductors and teh internets you are now using to shitpost here. If that's all a cope then please be a better man, stop engaging in this cope and GTFO.Materialism can be a philosophical dead end without being a "cope from depressed people". >>24952419>basically utilitarian, it’s a calculation of suffering - if you kill me now I will suffer a lotThere are means of death which were neurologically proven to be completely painless. >people around me are also possibly going to sufferAn anti-natalist can just pull a Socrates and explain to all of his close ones that the should be rejoiced that his suffering is finally over and if they are being upset by him being gone then they are selfish and evil people who produce suffering out of pure narcissism, just like anyone who reproduces.
>>24952548>That's a very cute "if" and all but without approaching or even being concerned by this "if" materialism managed a lot of things like the semiconductors and teh internets you are now using to shitpost here.that's correct, although that's not at all what anti-materialists are sayingthey're saying that on the surface level like you've just mentioned, products are made which you can interact with using the human senses but if you analyze the origin deeper and deeper and deeper, eventually the line dividing what is tangible and what is not begins to blurwhat you're essentially saying is that things like ideas don't exist because you can't physically interact with them
>>24952669>what you're essentially sayingI'm not though, read the entire post.
>>24952669but ideas are reducible to physical facts.
>>24952294sure if you're going to kill me in a way that will cause no one any suffering.
You might like your life, but what if your kid doesn't? If they don't should they kill themselves?
>>24952394You cannot prove that the sun will rise tomorrow.>>24952367So no argument?
>>24952294Not having children and killing yourself are not the same, retard OP
>>24952391Stupid take, you probably don’t even understand it
Antinatalists are morally obliged to murder orphaned infants before they develop self-consciousness.
>>24952732>You cannot prove that the sun will rise tomorrow.Ok and?
>>24952709>>24952419You post on 4chan. No one will miss you.