When does it get “good?”
>>24952471The part with the guy and the bananas
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Once you get to the second part it really picks up, and in the third part it feels like a completely different book from what you've read up to that point. The start sets it all up, you'll feel nostalgic for it by the end.
>>24952471Well, Slothrop is just chowing on that pie!
When Slothrop goes to mainland Europe. The first chapter is still one of the best though so if you didn't like it then maybe its not for you
>>24952471When you realize that all the sex stuff is Pynchon's inner demons, he's Blicero, and all that stuff about Weissman and bleaching and colonization and technology is Pynchon's discomfort with his own whiteness. There's no theme or meaning, it's just therapeutic diarrhea. It won awards because its Europhobic racism packaged as something parallel to actual literature. It's so out there that it skirts past immediate recognition for what it is by uncritical thinkers.
>>24952563You guys always have to make things into some idpol thing. There is nothing wrong with saying "hey I think those nazi guys might have been pretty bad dudes'
>>24952588>they’re bad dudes because…they just are ok?!
>>24952596Nta but my god you are retarded
>>24952588Rockets are a Cold War motif pointing to the USSR and the US, Blicero was an SS member sure, but also had something or another to do with whites being in South Africa. It's more than just a uniform and Pynchon takes all of these aspects of white countries and puts it into a villain named "Weissman"- literally 'whiteman', then gives him the nickname Blicero meaning "bleaching". It's pretty clear he's talking about all white people being some sort of techno-religious monster. Underneath all of that is this weird series of sexual fiascos which seems to have nothing to do with anything. Pynchon is clearly expressing a discomfort with adjusting to sexual mores and with his own conception of whiteness in the Cold War. You're clearly hoping that passive aggressiveness will give you some sort of out here, but it obviously doesn't. You're just a Europhobic racist yourself.
