How do I get into James Joyce if I'm not Irish and I got filtered by Finnegans Wake?
>read beforehand DublinersPortraitHamletOdysseyTry to not get filtered by Proteus, the rest of the book is not that bad other than Oxen. Sirens has a retarded start, but it quickly returns back to normal.
Why on Earth would you want to?
>>24952593only dubliners is good. so just read that
>>24952602This, but also read the KJV bible (especially Genesis, Exodus, and the Gospels), Flaubert, Tolstoy & Dostoevsky (all admired by Joyce), and some Ibsen plays (revered by Joyce)
>>24952593>I'm not Irish it's joever
>>24952602Do i need to read the Iliad?
>>24952658Yea
>>24952593Isn't the other bitch better?
Joyce, like all great "Irish" writers, were of English stock. That is, their ancestral origin was in England. Having moved to Ireland in late Middle Ages or early modern period for administrative aristocratic purposes, colonial.
>>24952808>having moved to Ireland in late Middle AgesDescribes almost the entire population of Ireland. There's been enough admixture, both ways and over a long enough period, that Irish and English are genetically indistinguishable, and this has been the case since at least the 1850s when most of the primarily Gaelic stock either died or migrated.
>I am made in such a way that I do not care much for the output from your Wholesale Safety Pun Factory nor for the darknesses and unintelligibilities of your deliberately entangled language system. It seems to me you are wasting your genius.
>>24952593Sadly an Irish visa is needed to read James Joyce. Any illegal alien caught reading James Joyce without his papers in order shall be sent to work as a menial Airbnb servant in Lisbon or as a barista eunuch in Barcelona.
>>24952858t. a woke feminist heiress whose one contribution to the world was bankrolling Joyce. Pound saw the genius of FW.>>24952593If you haven't read his previous works, do that, in published order. Also read Pound's ABC of reading while working your way through Dubliners/Portrait. Then when you get to FW pick up the McHugh annotations book and also start reading Our Exagmination Round His Factification for Incamination of Work in Progress. You can burden yourself with more secondary resources but I think thats a good bare minimum for you to go into the work with enough knowledge to interpret some of it while not having too much already formed in your mind.
>>24953157Joyce was woke
>>24952593What you will need to do first is to be catechized in the Catholic faith. Ideally, a Jesuit would help you with this, but you will only get liberation theology from them these days.Once you have converted, read Ibsen, Shakespeare, and the Greeks. Don't forget to masturbate often. Next comes the most important part: apostatize. Completely denounce the Faith in your heart and declare war against God.Now you can enjoy Joyce!
>>24952613Fuck all that shit. Just read Joyce's works in chronological order.
>>24952693Why would he need to read the Iliad, you pillock?
>>24952613>KJV>JoyceHe was Catholic
>>24953157>Pound saw the genius of FW.Errrrr what?>Nothing so far as I make out, nothing short of divine vision or a new cure for the clap can possibly be worth all the circumambient peripherization.
>>24952808all of joyce's ancestors had names like o'grady and murphy and they were catholic through and through. he was as irish as you could get.
>>24955241So he can read the Odyssey.One always starts with the Greeks.
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