New meme book is here
>>24955864And a completely useless one at that. Who needs Aristotle? The ultimate truth that Plato and Aristotle never found (because they never really wanted it) with all their philosophy and its methods and terminologies is found by a Catholic child. A Catholic child knows all the truth about the basic dogmas that he needs to be saved. These most important of all truths that a Catholic child has were never found by Aristotle and Plato with all their brains, intellect, knowledge, philosophy, logic, dialectics, and grammar.
>>24955899Retard fight. Plato and Aristotle missed the mark the same way Catholics missed the mark. Philosophical failures, the lot of you
>>24955864What makes it a meme book?
>>24955934What mark, O wise one?
>>24955899Boring.
>>24955899Christianity is just Platonism with a Jewish middle man.
>>24956033They all fail to recognise and appreciate the omnipresent sense of "is"
Lot of faggots in this thread, there is.
Did we need a new edition? What's changed? I still have a Bollingen Plato. Fuck Hackett. Honestly, Thomas Taylor collection would be best if it weren't expensive as hell.>>24955899I'm Catholic and this post is embarassing.>>24955934Lol. Lmao even. So (post)modernity and nihilism are a lot better, right???>>24956062You say that negatively. But the meeting of Athens / Rome and Jerusalem vis a vis the Christian religion is a singular and unique and perhaps the ultimate philosophical moment in history...
>>24956287I have the Bollingen Plato too, but was somewhat annoyed realizing that the disputed Platonic works were excluded (even though there is now questioning the other way, about whether several of them like Alcibiades are genuine after all). Hackett at the very least has every work classically credited to Plato, which is important as they were only disputed relatively recently, and most commentators of Plato’s works were reading those disputed works closely too
>>24955864best translation and set of notes for Aristotle Metaphysics comes from CDC Reeve, so maybe it's good
>>24956033The vedic atman.
>>24956287Personally, I like my philosophy undiluted and unmuddied by the Israelite offshoot of the human sacrifice Canaanite pantheon, but you do you.
>>24955899Good to know you're a better Christian than medieval monks
>>24956473>>24956287Unlike what you've probably heard on the internet from tradcath apostates, scholasticism is not the end of Catholicism. It's not even Catholicism. Theology (the Catholic faith, the knowledge of spiritual things about faith and morals) is the only complete and true wisdom and thus needs no handmaid (philosophy) to assist it in teaching things about faith and morals. The mixing of a false wisdom (such as philosophy) with the true wisdom (theology) is a mortal sin called syncretism. One proof as to how the scholastics do not have the common sense that a Catholic child has is that they go to Plato or Aristotle for the truth on faith and morals when both Plato and Aristotle admitted that they never found the truth. That is like going to a man to make a car who was never able to make a car in spite of all his efforts. You are free to go to him, but he will never be able to make a car that works. Likewise, you can go to the philosopher to learn about faith and morals, but he will never be able to give you a religion that works. He will only give you a false religion and confuse you all the more.>Let the world’s philosophers, the wise men of Greece, beset our path, and spread their syllogistic nets to entangle the truth. Let them ask How? and Whence? and Why? When they can find no answer, let us tell them that it is because God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise. That is the reason why we in our foolishness understand things incomprehensible to the world’s philosophers.
>>24956660Tertullian isn't a saint.Aquinas is borderline dogmatic canon in the catechism
>>24955864Should I cop?
>>24956660>Aristotle admitted he never found the truthWhere? He actually implies the opposite in Meta 1, that he knows everything.
The merest mention of Aristotle in the present day really brings out the most retarded takes on philosophy, scholasticism, Catholicism, and Christianity. He's not even that hard to read or engage with and now is as good a time as ever.I have enough other things to get through first, though, and some Penguin paperbacks in the pile, and now if I get around to the rest, one more thing to decide.
Jesus didn't rise and he's never coming back.The bible is not the word of God.Christians are subhumans and Christianity is the fastest dying religion
>>24956715> He's not even that hard to read or engage with and now is as good a time as ever.He’s extremely hard. If I was at home I could give you quotes across the centuries that attest to this. If you think he’s actually fairly easy it’s because you’re not reading carefully enough and will likely never make it with any philosopher. “Matter is the stuff a thing is made of, what could be simpler!” No it’s not that simple and you got filtered because you’re illiterate, like most hobbyist philosophers.
>>24956715And I forgot to mention, of course, that he was neither Christian, nor a theologian, nor a scholastic, nor a Catholic. But the spite and malice against virtue runs deep.
>>24956732Did I say easy? I said that not even that hard - the Greeks all tend to bring you up to their level.
>>24956715Aristotle is the ultimate filter between people who like philosophy to know things and people who like philosophy because they think its edgy. >prime mover? accidents and substance? teleology?>dude this is boring and normie!>dude where are the ARCHONS bro!? the demiurge!? where's the based schizo realms?
>>24957296Aristotle is the ultimate trap that captures people right before they grasp philosophy. Normies read him and think they've tapped into some great source of wisdom, never escaping his maze of banal pseudo-philosophical nonsense.
Aristotle is essential to understanding Plato and (Neo)Platonism (and Christianity)The faith of a child is nothing to scoff at but as we age so must our faith or so it should...
