>American writes about family values, culture and tradition
Garbage thread.
keyed threadonly americans wouldn't like it
locked threadonly coalposters would like it
iron threadits something
brimstone threadfrom the pitch black depths of NiggerHell
>American writes poetry
>>24961748>Britain>Can't fly your country's flag because the gov't thinks it's anti-immigrant>Germany>Politicians spied on, assassinated if insufficiently pro-immigrant>Spain>Dictator restored the monarchy only for the monarchy to wane in the face of republicanism>France>Abolishes monarchy only for a republic to fail four times (so far)>Poland, Hungary>Former communist states aggressively larping as catholic to try to regain their heritage>Anywhere outside Europe>Third world muh "food and family" shitholesNowhere survived the twentieth century except places that have nothing to live for.
>>24962172The Catholic Church survived, by the skin of its teeth, thanks to Marcel Lefebvre.
>>24962187The catholic church isn't a country, anon. And the recent papacies have supported mass migration as if prot churches are much better
>>24962172>>Britain>>Can't fly your country's flag because the gov't thinks it's anti-immigrant>>Germany>>Politicians spied on, assassinated if insufficiently pro-immigrantWhy do they suddenly need so many migrants after decades of encouraging the native population not to breed?
>>24962211wages started going up and they were like damn
>>24962211It's easier to rule a nation of transplants who eat from your palm, plus those in government feel better about themselves for stifling native culture because the first pillar of their retarded post-religion is "white people bad"
>>24962196depends on the denomination. there are fundie sects that are Middle Ages-tier fire and brimstone when it comes to nationalism. something nobody likes to admit is the majority of Hitler's support came from the Lutheran population in Germany.
>>24962394>depends on the denominationTrue enough. Ironically though I live in an area where you'd expect there to be a lot of fundamentalists but it mostly manifests in muh civility center-right perspectives. Everybody's desperate for a revival, but between the worship experience slop and the stuffy actual fundamentalists, religion itself needs to be reborn. It's so alienating I might as well become a Satanist.>nobody likes to admitAfaik it's more that nobody thinks of WWII-era Germans as anything but either vicious Nazis or helpless bystanders. Nobody has a mental map of what the average Johannes believed or how he engaged with Hitler's modernist-cum-neopagan "positive Christianity."
>>24962531you're a mindbroken aesthete, not a person of conviction
I'm doing an American literature project in 2026So far I have>PKD>Hemingway>O'Connor>McCullers >Faulkner>Delillo>VonnegutAny suggestions?
truthful thread
>>24962628Darger
>>24962613...but I find the aesthetic of conviction compelling
>>24962628>no DFW>no Pynchon>no McCarthyWtf is unc cookin lmao?
>>24961748>he says>as he posts an image of an American cultural icon from an American filmIrony. Although ESL's don't understand such concepts. Fun thread to publicly announce you're a retard though.
>>24961748>
>>24961748Tell me of another significant country existing today that has existed since 1800 with continuous leadership, hasn't lost huge chunks of territory since 1800, and hasn't completely rewritten their Constitution at least once.
>>24962162>has to larp as british
>>24962628>no Steinbeck>no Melville
>>24962628Hawthorne?
>>24964335I've already read MelvilleYeah I should read Steinbeck, which novel should I read?>>24964336Isn't he mostly historically relevant?
>>24964297Who gives a flying fuck?Oh... you... cause you're a dumbass.
>>24964563I for one found anon's post to be a startlingly punchy way to translate the scale and outrage of the Anglo-American hegemon. It juxtaposes well with the contrived nature of the half-hearted rise of American "traditionalism", as the uncontested domination of the United States has come at a cost of real rootedness to value, family, culture (outside of mass consumer culture), as OP remarks. Furthermore, the soul-negative affect of this waif --> >>24962531 is the keystone to an illuminating thread, of which
>>24964590The best thing you're doing is arguing in semantics which is a very continental European thing to do. You fail to define "real rootedness" and "consumer culture" except in very vague terminology which amounts to esoteric ballgargling. For a place that breeds people like Leo Strauss and Michel Foucault, who have their uses - we burgers are very good at instrumentalism, which is the real supposed value of a given philosophy and not just theory and "because I said so" - even those words have real effect such as how someone like JL Austin supposes (and are not just vague symbols that remain hidden from the general public). So you can stop acting like a candyass and give me the real purpose and meaning of which you're persuading.
>>24964631>The best thing you're doing is arguing in semantics which is a very continental European thing to do.The first thing you’re doing is confusing argument with shitposting and the second thing is not knowing what semantics actually is, nor that the American Saul Kripke, progenitor of Kripkean semantics, has had that market cornered for thirty years, much to the chagrin of the Euro-peein’s.> You fail to define "real rootedness" and "consumer culture" except in very vague terminology which amounts to esoteric ballgargling. I can define rootedness as an inter-generational responsibility to the land and nation, which is bracketed by strong familial support and resilient tradition. I can steal the Wikipedia definition for consumer culture as “the continuous acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing quantities“, which is conditioned by mass media and actively undermines that which makes up the rootedness definition earlier through conscious and unconscious social conditioning. I can give an anecdotal example with admittedly poor empirical basis: it’s genuinely treated as a sign of failure if an American young adult fails to uproot their life for the sake of employment opportunity by age 25. >Instrumentalism, which is the real supposed value of a given philosophyWhy, because you said so? Name your standard partner, this town ain’t big enough for both of our meta-epistemological commitments. I think you’ll be confused to find mine particularly Logos-centric. Admittedly the only Americans of the kind you’re asking for that I’ve read have been Mill, Mann, Peirce, David Lewis and Daniel Dennett—and those last two are anything but instrumental, anything but intuitive. Your last and greatest mistake was not taking the Norman Rockwell shaped hint that I am also an American.
>>24964663You do realize most of what I said was to garner a reaction. Looks like it worked and you're having a meltdown.
>>24962172Third world country doesn't mean developing country. Elsewhere I would let this kind of colloquialism slide, but this is supposed to be the literate board.
>>24964667Come on be a good sport. If simply engaging your post is enough to qualify as a meltdown then I can only pray for your parents. You need to read tone! Or just anything I wrote…
>>24963681Heath Ledger was from Australia, 'tard.
>>24964297>reconstruction>new deal>great society and civil rightsThe Constitution may still be on the books but we're effectively in the American Fourth Republic.
>>24962172>Immediately tries to deflect to bongistanOh uh stinky
>>24965195>Oh uh stinkyEnough about your axewound, troon.
>>24964317hate thhis guy
NVKE thread
>>24964631>esoteric ballgarglingKek
