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>Fucked up the OP
it was meant to be Good writing is overpowerd. whatevr
>pic related
>MFW when me acussing an author of using AI makes him want to quit writing and makes him wish his surgery failed.
Do authors really?

>>24964116
https://jumpshare.com/s/Y0lRrdH3yiQI49IZsbMn

>>24964130
If you are right: The jig is up, no reason to continue. Throw up a sob story, ditch account, make a new one and continue as usual
If you are wrong: Basically told someone that their creativity is on par with a soulless machine.
The reaction makes sense. If it was something as innocuous as pointing out overuse of a particular phrase, then it would be odd.

Just don't use ai EZ PZ
I tried to use it just for research and it fucked that up.
Tried using it to find stories with specific elements and it just gave me the standard popular answers everyone already knows.
Ask if for more obscure stories and it just makes them up, ask it for links and it will just link random stories on RR.

>>24964200
claude is really good with feedback because literally NOBODY wanted to read anything I posted, to provide critque, but going forward I'm just going to trust my guts

>>24964202
>really good with feedback
how do you know that if you have nothing to compare it to?

>>24964220
because I have nothing to compare it to. The only feedback I ever got was anon saying we have the same writing style and my writing has ruined it for the both of us.

>>24964221
you seem to be under the impression that bad feedback is still useful, just not as useful as good feedback
no. bad feedback actively hurts your ability to grow as an author. you would be better off taking no advice than taking bad advice
and AI models give lots of bad advice

>>24964226
sure, doesn't change the fact I get 0 feedback though

>>24964227
not really interested in that topic
just letting you know that listening to AI is making you a worse writer

>>24964228
I think it's helped me improve a little to make me look at parts where I definitely needed improvement, would've never happened otherwise

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mfers will really make a dozen posts about getting no feedback and never share something they want feedback on

>>24964227
It's not difficult to improve to the point you can start picking up readers on rr. You don't need feedback to get past the shit-your-pants-every-page stage
And at that point you can get feedback from your readers rather than strangers who can't be bothered

>>24964233
doesn't apply for off-meta non-litrg non-isekai stories though which what I was doing. Nobody would give it a chance since it's niche. I'm taking a shot at a litrpg so maybe it might pull in readers, but since it's wip I can't post it on rr yet, just finding a good opening first chapter to write is proving tricky.

What do you guys think makes for a strong start of the story? What are the most important elements? What turns you off right at the start of the story?

>>24964252
>What do you guys think makes for a strong start of the story?
good cover art and blurb

nothing else actually matters

I think becoming friends with an enemy is gay faggot shit. A real hero should kill his enemies. And their families.

>>24964259
I disagree. A story is going to lose me if it has a boring start even if it has good cover art. There's very little that's as off-putting as starting a story and going through MC's daily life dealing with characters that become irrelevant.

A blurb has rarely made a difference. They always read like shit. The only times a blurb has made a difference is if they mention some element of the story that I like, eg litrpg. Otherwise the blurb just reads like an ad and should more or less be ignored.

>>24964235
My off meta non-litrpg non-isekai story I ran one ad for is approaching 100 followers in six weeks. I barely followed the precepts and growth has been much better than I expected.
I hate to say it, but partially this is a skill issue. Write better. There's tons of guides on how to write better. Just follow them.

>>24964293
well, yeah, you ran an ad. go figure.

>>24964296
It's literally that or network for shoutouts. You can't just dump chapters and expect people to find you now that RR is so large.

>>24964259
non-reader babble

>>24964252
Soulful cover art. A preamble that let's me know immediately the author gives a shit about what they are working on, an interesting character and a scene that allows them to shine.

>>24964281
>>24964290

>>24964296
if you can't invest $50 into a project you're going to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours on then you either need to turn 18 or get a job

>>24964354
i'm 30 with a job, but my last launched fiction was a short story so I didn't bother with an ad. Its longer 90-140k word sequel i just haven't launched yet, but I may focus on the aforementoned litrpg fantasy for a bit next year.

>>24964373
trying to post a short story to royalroad explains no engagement much more than not running an ad does lol

>>24964252
>>24964307

>>24964271
Second this.
If some sonovabitch tries to kill you you do not hug him after he fails. No no, you kill him after you survive. That is heroic.

>>24964252
>What do you guys think makes for a strong start of the story?
At least adequate technical writing ability right off the bat and some sort of plot hook in chapter 1 to give me faith that the author isn't a beginner and can tell a fun story. Meet those 2 criteria and I'll give a whole lot of benefit of the doubt
Beyond that, there's the matter of the pre-filter which is having the correct tags/premise/blurb to draw my attention in the first place.

>>24964394
ya don't say son

What should the secret demon king do

>>24964416
woo the yuusha

>>24964271
>>24964403
those who are not from the MC’s race must have thoughts incompatible with the MC and should not be spared

>>24964420
whats a yuusha

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>>24964436
tl note; yuusha means hero

Reader of King's Eyes from last thread here and random other shit I grabbed.
I began something called Memory Bonds which was advertised as "I don't know who I am or where I am but my town was blasted" and quickly diverted into "dragon bonding apprenticeship" so I dropped it.
I am now reading something called Unredeemed which has some wacky concept like "mom has an Aging Spear that she inserts into MC's hand and ages her physical body and maturity from 5->13". I am 3 chapters in and will probably drop it.

>>24964446
> Unredeemed which has some wacky concept like "mom has an Aging Spear that she inserts into MC's hand and ages her physical body and maturity from 5->13"
That sounds like it's going to get pretty squicky from the premise.
Do you have any thoughts on the stories from /wng/?

>>24964441
thats actually not a bad idea
can i have some other options

>>24964451
The author has placed a noticeable level of quality within their writing that has been absent from the past batch which is the main reason I have lasted thus far but I will probably move on. It is completed and ~90 chapters. MC went to the "neighboring" village inhabited by "different species" after a thrilling cave sequence where she rescued a baby "same species as absent god-things" lol
What do you mean? Like stories written by anons?

>>24964457
Honestly surprising to find anything that's completed these days. Also going to say that I wasn't expecting any of that out of a story with an age up plot device, so that's certainly something.
And yeah. Anything from those in the OP doc. Since you seem to actually read, I was wondering if you'd already read stuff from here.

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>>24964455
flat tall femc litrpg wholesome adventure with thicc tiddy elf who may or may not have also a fat uncut cock

>>24964455
Depends on the type of story you're trying to tell really. Are you going for something upbeat, comedic, dark, or what?

>>24964463
She got her ass beat then allowed to escape by the "neighboring different species" so the plot has escalated quickly. Her mom seems like a controlling bitch but she made it back home, met her dad, and he is a cool guy to balance (of course). I should have mentioned that the plot includes being "reborn" into this world which involves the weird aging mechanic. But in the 3 chapters so far it hasn't been a huge thing.
I read through King's Eyes quickly because the chapters were short.

>>24964463
I'm the anon from last thread who read Nowhere Stars and asked for similar majou shoujo recs.
Something I read that I don't see discussed much is Infinite Realm, which blends together cultivation, classes, and "skills". I thought it had an end in sight yet it keeps on going. It also has a very fun character who spends the first four "volumes" being a boring fuck then suddenly the most interesting character in the entire series. The author wrote a space mecha series before IR that I read. And a tower progression series. And some other shit I haven't followed.
I read MoL months ago. Part 1 was radical. Looking back, I probably wouldn't keep reading it as the ending wasn't worth the time investment. I tried Worth the Candle and the immediate reference spam made me abort. I read through a few volumes of Everyone Loves Large Chests years back and eventually aborted because the gore was too much.
Is Bookbound Bunny worth reading? like a cutesy SoL deal?
I'm 20 something chapters into Years of Apocalypse and haven't read any in weeks which is weird because I read all of MoL idk? been reading DCC since book 5.

>>24964474
>I should have mentioned that the plot includes being "reborn" into this world which involves the weird aging mechanic. But in the 3 chapters so far it hasn't been a huge thing.
That definitely moves it more out of the weird territory. I was thinking it was going to go a much different direction.
>I read through King's Eyes quickly because the chapters were short.
That's fair. I just like to encourage people to check each other out. It'd be really neat if there was more interpersonal interaction between all of us.

>>24964479
Haven't seen or read anything about Bookbound Bunny so I can't say.
>I tried Worth the Candle and the immediate reference spam made me abort
I like to do chores while listening to audiobooks, and the number of times I've had stop what I'm doing to stop it because they saturate me with reference 'comedy' is far too many. I even had to drop one series after the first book because it introduced a character whose SOLE PURPOSE is to be a quipping reference machine when it was almost entirely absent in the first. I hate that with a passion and wonder how so many of these Family Guy tier writers get audiobooks.

>MC is a summoner
>perfect control over their summons, can summon anything they've killed themselves
>don't get XP if they kill their own summons because "the system" doesn't consider it real effort
>others don't get XP if they kill the summons and know they are summons because "the system" doesn't consider it real effort
>others DO get XP if they are unaware they are summons because now it's real effort
>MC wants to powerlevel the town so needs to level themselves high enough without revealing their summoning skill while simultaneously crafting situations that give the illusion of danger for the denizens so they can farm the summons
thoughts?

>>24964488
>Haven't seen or read anything about
I was going off of the rec list in the OP. Although you're probably referencing the googledoc for anon works, I'll give it a look. I'm not sober right now. Also apologies. I am FOUR chapters into Unredeemed, not three.
My immediate (rr) backlog is Magical Girl of Oblivion -> Necroepilogos. I might pull the trigger tomorrow and order the physical Nowhere Stars paperbacks.

>>24964467
Whatever happened to Kono guy anyway?

>>24964496
who?

>>24964497
An anon writing a fantasy futa webnovel, he used to post a lot a few months ago

>>24964490
Counterpoint: MC has a psychopathic split personality that wants to be the strongest and so is constantly pulling strings from his subconscious without him knowing. This split personality makes it feel real so that he still gets the XP and isn't afraid to inflict harsh injuries.

>>24964493
wew I'm retarded. This is a project for sobriety but I will at least go through the completed/in progress stories and add whatever is interesting to my backlog.

>>24964493
>>24964502
No problems mate. Please do keep us updated and have a nice night.

>>24964499
geniunely don't remember but I also don't usually click on every pastebin-esque non-RR link desu

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Revision from today, trying to make it more accessible. So far just changed the opening. Anti autism edit.
https://files.catbox.moe/3x7cq7.mp3
My old autism style as shown yesterday with some german cadence creeping in or general poetic.
https://files.catbox.moe/qba00h.mp3

>>24964455
>westoid slopper discover ancient eastoid wn trope from 2000s

>>24964585
What's old is new again, bring back early 2000s anime tropes

>>24964591
>battle school harem with girls with different hair colors and -dere personality types
Actually fuck that just steal the premise of Infinite Stratos wholesale.

Guys, if I want to git gud at writing, I need to read, but I'm not sure what to read. Can someone share a recommended reading list of some kind? Not just webnovels, but the kind of reading list I need to actually get good.

>>24964636
Start with the Greeks.

>>24964635
Not even the original author could make Infinite Shitos work

>>24964490
isn't that just a dungeon core story with extra steps

>>24964636
check the ones on this board's pinned post. also, yeah, start with the greeks; chiefly, and personally, iliad and odyssey.

>>24964635
Way ahead of you, chief. A while ago I tossed together a 2k chapter full of RR-isms that combines mechs, demons & angels, isekai, and 2000s harem tropes, just to amuse myself between writing my other series.
https://rentry.co/d9w7ndna

>>24964688
I'm getting too much Eva. What is your excuse for making what sounds like a confused teenager get in the robot instead of a professional?

>>24964697
not him, the standard trope is genetic aptitude

>>24964688
MC is very borderline snarker like he sits next to wholesome reddit quirk chungus guy in class and it's starting to rub off on him.
Why does buying all the DLC matter if he's not the protagonist of the game?

>>24964697
Genre convention. I can bullshit something up if needed, like it's because the "sync rate" thingamajig combines both genetic aptitude and mental syncing with the mecha, and teenagers are more malleable for the mental part than adults are. Or something like it.

>>24964700
>MC is very borderline snarker like he sits next to wholesome reddit quirk chungus guy in class and it's starting to rub off on him.
I know. Audience appeal.
>Why does buying all the DLC matter if he's not the protagonist of the game?
He's still got access to it. That'd be the second chapter where he pulls a mech named Lucifer out of his ass. Could've made that clearer, I suppose.

>>24964490
>MC is a summoner
>perfect control over their summons, can summon anything they've killed themselves
You're writing a necromancer

>>24964703
What's the in universe explanation for that though

>>24964697
>>24964703
>teenagers are more malleable for the mental part than adults are. Or something like it.
Seems pointless to add when it's already an academy story. Obviously they're training for the next war

>>24964708
any asia slop would say he got an A+ grade, the top 0.01%, in the academy the worst aptitude was A-

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>>24964564
Text version. I need anglophone feedback for me to commit to a full (anti autism) ground up rewrite of 100k words+

https://rentry.co/ymdde6m7

>>24964710
Oh that's true, I forgot they always do that. Though there must be a military academy for the plebs where they train all the fodder to pilot the Leo/Jim/Zaku equivalent

>>24964710
I chose the shitty grade because that way he's an underdog in the eyes of the world, while also leaving myself a really obvious way to make it a measurement failure because he's only tested with his family's mech and not any others.

>>24964718
maybe make the others better, so you say he is not a pleb

A-, A, A+, S grade, EX grade, Deity rank
to put him above peasants or make his real rank C, pushed up by system to A+(C)

>>24964716
It's hard to know where to begin. I could maybe do a line by line edit, but honestly, one of your problems is that your prose is genuinely purple and the fact English clearly isn't your first language also doesn't do you any favours.

An example:
>him using legs stumbling with haste.
It's not incorrect grammatically speaking, but it also doesn't "scan" or feel natural, and it doesn't really mean anything. The impressions you're trying to create are somewhat misplaced, too. His "legs stumbling with haste" are things that would've been more interesting to read about using more physical wording:
>Laen ran to the edge of the pier, his haste nearly making him stumble as he tried to fight his way past the cold spray of waves. To drown would be horrible, but to be late would be even worse.
Or maybe something else. It's unclear to me if he's currently in the water skinny-dipping or if he's running to the water. And why. Those are problems too.

More generally you seem to have a tendency for your wording to get overly verbose, even literary, for very little reason, like
>It was a ruthless drip of black colored liquid
>Then why was his want for higher confines too strong to make himself relent Why could he not cease this pursuit?
It's touches like these that make some suspect the involvement of AI in your writing. Your style isn't particularly cohesive. Also, your fondness for the pars pro toto is obvious and it annoys me. "Young gaze" is one example.

Second problem. If this is the first part of the first chapter, then it's not a great hook. Considering RR and similar platforms, it's easier than it's ever been for readers to drop your novel. You have to physically glue those motherfuckers to the screen, from the first paragraph. Start at the moment the plot kicks off.

He works in an alchemist's store, so begin from the moment that he first shatters a vial or makes a discovery or an important customer comes in. It reads like he's experiencing a morning like any other, which is not what we're interested in. We want the morning everything changed, if we want a morning at all.

>>24964762
Switching it up as test. Simplifying vocabulary. Hhhhm
>Chapter 1: Curtain to a New Age

>Laen ran to the edge of the pier. If he didn't arrive on time he would get killed and miss sunrise. It was morning before anybody was awake. This was his stolen moment. For a servant to miss work made him a thief. He gained time to spare by running. His legs tripped and stumbled as he came to a halt.
>The cold spray of the waves hit Laen's face.

>>24964781
>>24964762
it is still a miss match, you are right in all your points and thanks for the critique
I have to think about it. I do know that it is a foul play to do a 90s style literary hook and slow worldbuilding too

>>24964781
>>Laen ran to the edge of the pier. If he didn't arrive on time he would get killed and miss sunrise. It was morning before anybody was awake. This was his stolen moment. For a servant to miss work made him a thief. He gained time to spare by running. His legs tripped and stumbled as he came to a halt.
>>The cold spray of the waves hit Laen's face.
No, that doesn't really work. It's still very German in its bluntness if nothing else.

>>24964716
The problem is that you tried to be poetic without first grasping the fundamentals of the language, resulting in something nearly unreadable.
So instead of revising your book, it’s best to put it aside for the time being and practice writing simple snippets, like a dialogue between a couple on a date or a faux news article, until people stop accusing you of being an ESL.

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>>24964814
Tuned down my brutalist tendencies as test and wrote more standardized. Some filler and fluff to sand off the edges.
>Laen ran to the edge of the shortest pier at the harbors waterfront. Dark and green, moving waves below. He knew that if he didn't arrive on time and returned with haste that the Alchemist was ready to kill him. It would cost him his life and force his young eyes to miss the sight of today's sunrise. A dirty secret as dirty as the water of this forsaken place.

>>24964781
>It was morning before anybody was awake. This was his stolen moment. For a servant to miss work made him a thief.
I don't think this would make any sense whatsoever in german either. You should think a bit more what is the real message here.

>>24964843
>Alchemist was ready to kill him. It would cost him his life
Anon, this is just intentionally comical. You're not thinking. Just step away from it for a day or two or a week, and start over.

>>24964845
*unintentionally, of course. I hate when these machines change my words without asking me

>>24964844
Es war am Morgen bevor irgendjemand wach wa, dies war sein gestohlener Moment. Für einen leibeigenden die Arbeit zu verpassen machte ihn zu einem Dieb.

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since yesterday....
with your help and input, thank you guys anyway going to have to think further and try some more

V1 (initial autism mode)

Laen ran to the edge of the pier. Arriving late meant getting killed, or worse, missing the rise of the sun. It was his stolen moment. Time he purchased from the waves' cold spray and legs of haste.

V2 (attempt to be more comprehensible)
Laen ran to the edge of the pier. To arrive late meant getting killed, or worse that he missed sunrise. Morning before anybody was awake, that was his stolen moment. The spare time was purchased by confronting the cold spray of waves and him using legs stumbling with haste.

V3 (me trying to simulate theory of mind)
Laen ran to the edge of the shortest pier at the harbors waterfront. Dark and green, moving waves below. He knew that if he didn't arrive on time and returned with haste that the Alchemist was ready to kill him. His brief daily absence a tainted secret, as dirty as the water of this forsaken place. Laen could only chalk it up to bad luck if he got caught and had to pay for it with his life. A pity that it would force his eyes to miss the sight of today's sunrise. Not just because he deemed himself too young to see the last one. For a servant to miss work made him a thief of time, hours of labor he owned to his master

>>24964490
Sounds like power gaming, me as the DM wouldn't allow it.

Being ESL may work in his favor if his readers are. It could be something that they'd relate to.

>>24964942
Not if they're ESLs of different stripes. If they're used to Malayam or Tagalog they wouldn't recognize German structures, I don't think.

>>24964959
>I don't think.

>>24964963
common EFLism

>>24964636
more of a /wg/ question

is there a guide to pacing webnovels?

>>24964997
constant cliffhangers until end of parts

>>24964963
what gives an ESL the confidence to call out a completely normal phrase like this?

>>24964636
Don't listen to the hooligans telling you to read literature
Read whatever you enjoy and whatever you want to write. Genre savviness will not only take you much further if you want an audience but you'll also enjoy yourself rather than suffering

>>24964971
>>24965005
>not getting the joke
You don't think, indeed. Because you're stupid. That's the joke.

>>24965043
funniest german

>>24965043
this is excellent banter

>>24964232
>https://jumpshare.com/s/Y0lRrdH3yiQI49IZsbMn

Started reading Path of the Deathless and dropped it after a few chapter. It's strange because I can't pinpoint exactly what is wrong with it, and the author's other work, Godclads, while far from perfect, did not suffer from the same issues (also had a setting that was a lot more interesting). Path of the deathless is a bit generic but I'm not kidding myself, this is not a genre for people who enjoy high art and creativity, so that's fine, no, the only thing I can pinpoint is that is somehow completely lacks any soul. The writing is competent, the character is okay, the action is described decently, the cliches are clicheable.

It still feels like total slop, and my guess is that the author wants to cash in on the prog fantasy genre with a more accessible work, but is just trying to hit the right keynote without any real interest on his part. Maybe that works for some people but not for him.

>>24965082
what a strange posting voice
are you using TTS?
you can really feel when a prog fantasy is just doing it by the numbers. factory line slop. foul. give me heartfelt slop. I want shit from the soul
also post the cover art when you food review so I can judge at a glance whether I want to give it a shot and babble with my lit/wng/ers

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>>24965087
No TTS but I went flux of consciousness because I'm at work. picrel you lazy assbutt

>>24965095
DCC coded (derogatory)

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>>24964232
>"if you post I'll give feedback"
>post
>get no feedback

>>24965082
There are no stakes. Godclads also has the same problem but everything else is pretty interesting, and the problem isn't apparent in the beginning. Only after the MC gets memetic powers does it lose all tension

>>24965125
he didn't want to give feedback he just wanted to see the writing ability of the dude complaining so he made a post with the highest odds of getting you to pyw

how far in should I start tickling the reader's balls and start dropping hints about the big bad of the setting?

>>24965114
I hate DCC with a passion so I'll concur.

>>24965133
page 1 or never, there are no rules in writing. decide for yourself what fits the story you're telling

>>24964997
There’s the one in the OP, and generally…
1 webnovel = 1 serial = multiple full-length books
1 book = 40 chapters at 2,500 words per chapter = 4 acts
Act 1: introduce the characters and set up the main problem/goal of that book
Act 2A: the MC sets out to deal with the problem
Act 2B: the villain gets the upper hand and corners the MC
Act 3: the climax
And before anybody starts going, “Oh, you don’t need conflict in a story; all webnovels should be slice of life, blah, blah, blah,” remember that Archmage had to extend the chapters in Book 1 from 39 to 72 because they forgot to add a proper climax the first time around.

>>24965139
>remember that Archmage had to extend the chapters in Book 1 from 39 to 72 because they forgot to add a proper climax the first time around.
without having comparative data for how the book would have performed in each case you can't draw any conclusions on whether 'a proper climax' even matters much
also nobody says all webnovels should be slice of life, some people just say slice of life performs fine and that an overfocus on plot is definitely not necessary (and this is demonstrably true)

>>24965126
Good point desu, the fact that the MC is already somewhat OP in the beginning despite being what he is just turned me off. There was zero feeling of struggle of any kind. I guess it's to be expected, I also hate timeloops so a guy that can just do what he does is a turn off for me.

>>24965138
800 chapters in it is

>>24965139
>1 book = 40 chapters at 2,500 words per chapter = 4 acts
If we're handing out generalized advice here, 100k is too short of a book, you will consistently see big authors saying 150k+. You want to hit the 15h mark for audiobook length so that people spend their free credit on you, and bigger books just generally perform much better

>>24965095
Isn't that the one with male rape impregnation
Author is either an edgelord or has the worst fetishes

>>24964232
I've gotten feedback, harsh but honest from anons here.

All it boils down to is a skill issue on my end and just really utilizing the tropes my genre has and not shying away from it, instead just use it as best as I can.

Now I have to re-read a lot of my favorite works with more care in how each line or chapter is constructed.

>>24964997
What the anon said about the 3/4 acts can also be applied to on a chapter scene level. Outlining can give you a indicator for pacing; keep it simple with 1 sentence bullet point summaries and see where it takes you. Can be what happened during the chapter or the aftermath of it, but you want to challenge yourself to keep it to one sentence with no comma splices or run-ons.

>>24965139
>>24965179
Thing with this is you are likely to end up with an episodic feel where the big bad from book one is already dealt with before you start book 2. But the trad sff books do that in the third book of the trilogy.

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>mfw he doesn't know the one true plot structure

Big picture plot doesn't matter and I honestly believe that
Make fun characters, put them in fun situations. You will get readers. This isn't tradpub

I wonder if I could make a webnovel about a cultivator continually ascending to higher realms only to be enslaved and put to work in the mines each time

>>24965564
Agreed, plenty of stories succeed without having much of a big picture plot, or not planning it out in advance and making one up as they go. Still, having a good big picture plot will never hurt you

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any webnovels where natives are actually wary of isekai'd MC's skinwalking their friends/relatives/child/acquaintances?

>>24965078
insists upon itself.

>>24963498
>Put it out today. Not sure. The prose is a bit clunky. First 70 chapters (110k words or so) are done and put on schedule.
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/144591/a-world-of-ink-and-sky/chapter/2866641/chapter-1-curtain-to-a-new-age
deleted already... why does /wng/ keep killing its authorfags

>>24965703
crabs in a bucket
either you leave or stop writing

>>24964636
read 10,000 chapters of mtl'd chinese xianxia haremslop and mtl'd japanese cheat skill isekai

>>24965625
yes but most of them are retarded grimderp miseryporn sloppa

>Try my hand at writing a femc with a fem sidekick
>Have to resist the urge to make them gay for each other, or one-sided gay.
Is this what's it's like to be a fujo?

>>24965743
The danger of writing cute girls

>>24965743
Make them dual-sidedly one-sided gay, both assuming the other is straight and never mentioning anything out loud.

>>24965752
Diabolical

I completely forgot BL even exists because I don't watch anime or read manga at all anymore and all the woman written stuff in the web novel space is your typical otome/villainess slop or modernslop about "I was forced to marry the toxic deadbeat but hes secretly a billionaire" or something like that.

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>>24965743
hey . . . that's my shtick . . . ah . . . well.

>>24965743
make them intimate heterosexual life partners

>>24965703
KWAB

That's it. I'm gonna write a novel. It's going to be the bestest web novel ever even though I'm an ESL.
What should I put into the story to guarantee success?

>>24965940
mc transmigrated, genderbent mc, regression, yuri bait, litrpg, a system.

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I've update the characters list with the ones named in Volume 4.

>>24965940
magitek, letter based class rankings, an elf gf named elf gf, an ancient prophecy, a hero literally named chad.

>>24965996
Fuck off, that's my idea!!!

>>24965743
Why can't femcs be het? I don't understand the obsession with lesbians

>>24966042
Real answer, it's the same reason straight girls like gay romances so much. What's better than 1 love interest you adore? 2 of them at once
A secondary answer is: wanting to read a fmc, but also wanting a female love interest, because most readers are men and don't want to read a male love interest. Solution? Lesbians

>>24966042
I don't want to do romance at all but having these two in close proximity, my mind is trying to ship them against my will.
I must be fujo-coded.

>>24966042
they can be so long as they never show interest in male characters

>>24966042
>Why can't femcs be het?
In webslop? because the 80iq self-inserter audience will FREAK if the mc is attracted to a man. if the MC is literally me then that makes ME gay

>>24966060
Except a lot of them will read genderbent dude falling to dick (male of futa).
It's not about being gay or straight really it's about *hits pipe*. Creating a woman to be enjoyed by another man.

>>24966076
>Except a lot of them will read genderbent dude falling to dick (male of futa).
that's a totally separate audience from the RR rising stars cattle anon

>>24966081
True but that audience is also 80IQ self inserters. Just not of the western variety

>>24966083
But I have 130IQ.

>>24966090
Holy shit me too

>>24966091
Did you also get your iq test as part of an autism diagnosis

Everyone on lit is 90Iq at best
Except me I'm 120

Gonna go through the author pastebin and make a chart of the best stories from the pile

>>24966097
there's no way you have time to read all of those

>>24966112
It helps that I read some of them way back before this general was even a thing. I'll skim over the ones I read again to see if anythings changed, but I'm itching to just read and review things

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I have 180 IQ.

>>24966171
Do you like to self insert?

>>24966174
Only as the woman. Or occasionally the cuck. But there is no ntr in westslop.

I will never understand self inserting. characters are more like collectables to me, things I want to have rather than things I want to be.

>>24964843
0/10

>>24966042
>>24966060
I don't want to read about a character lusting after a man. I'm not going to freak, I'm just not going to read it.

>>24966195
Being unable or unwilling to self-insert is a sign of low iq

>>24965950
>mc transmigrated, genderbent mc, regression, yuri bait, litrpg, a system.
I have one addition for this: the gods are Greek and Zeus is on the prowl.
>>24965996
Magitek anyways devolves into guns.

>>24966219
how is rising stars slop treating you anon?

>>24966042
people are not interested in reading about the pov character lusting after a man.

>>24966219
>egocentric projection & identification
>commonly found in children and others incapable of understanding that other people have their own complex minds & thought processes
>"you are low IQ if you don't exhibit this trait"
uh huh

>>24966240
t. Low iq brown that can't imagine not having breakfast this morning

>>24966179
there's far too much haremcuckoldry

>>24966252
you are arguing against yourself here

if you think about it, the love interest having a loving father is a form of ntr (she knows the name of a man other than you)

>>24966265
that's some cuck logic you've got there

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Doing a major rewrite of my story. Currently got 6 chapters going which is enough of a bite to preview but not enough to survive on RR at my own pace. Idk how you guys distribute longer works so here's a catbox of the pdf that'll last 3 days
https://litter.catbox.moe/o0xq1sbtb2dlxrzw.pdf
Read it, critique it, enjoy it. I don't feel like writing a synopsis, but in short it's very inspired by Revolutionary Girl Utena. no litrpg, no reincarnation, just a straight potentially yuri drama I'm hoping to create because writing people dying in extreme ways got mentally exhausting

>>24966217
You think you said like a straight man but you read exactly like a butch lesbian on tiktok

>>24966049
It's a personal pet peeve of mine that if a male gets "sent" into a female body that he wouldn't want to get dicked down, lesbians are not real.