Is he really *that* important?
Yall. That fucker right there is jacques derrida
>>24964570That's Monsieur Jacques Derrida to you!
He'll be forgotten more quickly than many others like him. Deleuze and Guattari will have cachet for a while even though they're equally impenetrable at first and have an equally steep learning curve to induct into their private language, because they never had a heyday like Derrida had. Derrida's heyday cheapened him in the eyes of zoomers looking for the "hot countercultural thing to be into" and calculating the costs/benefits of wasting 2 years becoming a "Derrida guy." There were already decades of Derrida guys, and they were gay American academics trying to borrow prestige from faded Parisian fashions. Foucault on the other hand also had a heyday like Derrida, an almost identical one, but Foucault's learning curve / cost of entry is much lower, so he will remain popular. Zoomers making the cost/benefit analysis will still feel that he is compromised by having been trendy among retard Americans trying to be knockoff retard Parisians, but they can also hop right into Discipline and Punish and famous College de France lectures, and once they've done that they will have sunk cost fallacy and force themselves to climb Mount Archaeology and pretend to understand Foucault's archaeology period. Derrida will continue to be "a name" for some time, but far more people will bounce off the Grammatology than A Thousand Plateaus or even The Order of Things. Serious people will continue to look at Derrida and go "huh..? why not just read Heidegger and/or Husserl, then?" Husserl is harder than Derrida, but he's German, so it's difficulty for the right reasons: the ratio of effort to payoff (in actual insight) is much higher.
>>24964599The zoomers can relax, there's at least one person working on some sort of computerized metric system for which thinkers are worth the time to read. All the guys mentioned thus far in this thread appear but I have no idea how to interpret whatever was generated. Whatever it is can also be filtered by niche, time period, agreements, and a few others. Only thing I can say is that regardless of the time spent the more profound the agreement or disagreement, the closer the connection will be.
>>24964485not reaally
In 1988 (yes!) I used Derrida's *defer-rence* as conceptual scaffold for artist Ed Ruscha's word paintings in my art history masters thesis. For my mature age student years PhD thesis I called upon Paul Virilio's *hegemonic space* and something from George Bataille about fesire flows I think. Look, I like philosophy as much as the next guy but when reading for pleasure I hit a wall when things get technical. I didn't mind exploring Object Oriented Ontology/ Philosophy for a awhile. Right now I'm slowly reading Rosi Braidotti' s Posthuman. Whatever floats your boat.
>>24966117Did Ruscha lift that line from the Sonic Youth song, or vise versa?
>>24966128Sonic Youth's Bad Moon Rising 1985Ruscha's painting is 1988, apparently he was inspired by *the 1948 comedy-western Pale Face. In this film, Bob Hope turns to Jane Russell as they are being attacked by Indians and exclaims, "Brave men run in my family" and promptly turns to flee the scene.*Internet infers same source for SY but maybe they just riffed on "brave men":**Seven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream at seaSeven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream of meSeven days and seven nightsThe world was made and lost againSeven days and seven nightsBrave men runIn my familyBrave men runInto the setting sunBrave men runInto captivityBrave men runIn my familyBrave men runAway from me
>>24964599Foucault has been tool boxed. My guess is that most people who use this tool box have no idea of Foucault's theory and could not explain his base terms like statement. It's similar for Derrida especially his differance is something some people have in their toolbox. However, Foucault is clearly more popular. My guess is that he seems easy to read and accessible at the surface
>>24964599You will die and eventually that information will be useless or to simply state, Suprlus information is useless and you're just farming for attention at that point other than Academical research
>>24966117Seriously how to get into post structuralists without hegel
>>24964599What are you reading? I don’t care about those other readers…
