I know this isn't /pol/, but as a board for people interested in literature, academics, and perhaps aspiring to join those fields themselves, this article was quite sobering. I don't know how someone could come away from reading this and not conclude something is deeply broken, and that young white men are actually responding rationally to discrimination.
>>24971487I was in a grad program at Duke during this period. It all rings a lot of bells. With the Feds there was also the whole veterans preference thing to deal with. Of course, the Feds used to be super prestigious and would get floods of elite grads willing to work for them at $60,000 a year. That's probably been effectively ruined.
>>24971494Not by DEI mind you. Although DEI was also fucking things up. The Trump solution was probably worse for the Fed talent pool, whole in academia and the creative industries DEI was the bigger deal.
> https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/ Here's a link to the article. My take on it is simple. You just can't divorce shit like this from the total disempowerment of young professional white men. They essentially have no ability to access the organs of communication in modern society, and have themselves described by people who fundamentally loathe them. More concerning than "not being able to get a job", is the fact that it got so out of control so quickly, and that it's quite entrenched. Trump I managed to do absolutely nothing, and Trump II is getting stuck on suing colleges and culture war BS like that shitty paper getting a 0. I'm not sure it's even worth trying to restore parity to these institutions, it might just be better to set up competing institutions or ignore them outright, do something like the Federalist Society but with Substacks, idk.
>>24971487>something is deeply broken,Boomers will hold the powerful for a long time actually, a bunch of gerontocratic retards with thinking patterns from the 20th century don't plan to retire any time soon. The same can also be said about regular boomers, they are just busy and worried about their pensions and they won't live long enough to see the result of boomer policies, that is every western country turned into India. That is something younger generations will have to deal with, somehow.>and that young white men are actually responding rationallyThey are responding rationally by dropping out from every fields described in that article to play video games and watch anime? Not to mention how white population itself had a very sharp decline (in the US it went from almost 88% in 1940s to 57% in 2020)This reminded me of this article actuallyhttps://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/
>>24971494>>24971496>>24971501I'm more concerned with the talent pool that's effectively been locked out of state institutions tbqh. The big take away from cancel culture was that you can ban people from participating, but they don't go away. It created a very vibrant very aggressive right wing counter culture that the mainstream is just now starting to grapple with and attempt to integrate into the system. If you effectively lock all male talent out of the State, what is the result of that going to be? Peter Turchin talks about elite overproduction, but when I look at the people who are excelling in the civil service, academia, and so on, they're often not even elites themselves. Maybe they excel at certain elite status games, but faking a disability to get an extra hour on your SAT exam isn't a skill that translates into the real world. You can already see the increased reaction time from the FBI with every political assassination and mass shooting, I think this last one was solved thanks to a fucking reddit post, so what happens when you've got a lot of very talented, very capable people with deep grievances who feel like they have no way to advance because they are gatekept by a flock of trust fund kids who realized that they could fake being retarded as a way to cheat on exams and get free adderall?
>>24971533It's a real problem. Gutting the civil service is a great way to get a shittier, more politicized state. A relatively independent civil service is generally considered to be one of the four pillars of a functional state and I actually think it might be the most important one of them all.I'm less concerned about the right wing reaction to the extent that it also opens up the potential for something new. Zombie Reaganism was killing the West and the constant switch off between conservative and progressive liberals Boomerism wasn't going to fix any major problems anytime soon. The positive feedback loops would just keep spinning up.But the post-liberal shift, while it includes a lot of bad actors and deranged media personalities, also opens the door to something that might be more stable than liberalism (e.g., something informed by Alasdair MacIntyre, Peter Simpson, etc.). Of course, one problem here is that the progressive left has been mostly captured by its own illiberal ideology that sees any sort of teleology, even the most basic, bare empirical sort, as inherently oppressive because the highest good is liberty and liberty just means more options and more multiplicity (which ironically makes everywhere the same and destroys culture, since culture, religion, etc. are exactly the sorts of things the progressives think everyone needs to be liberated from). Ultimately, this ideology currently has a lot of sway in elite institutions but I hope that the dramatic drop in college enrollment headed due to sheer demographics will manage to spark crises that shift this grip at least a bit. Ultimately, the view of the world as ordered to sheer self-assertion and choosing, Milton's Satan as the ultimate hero, is straight up demonic, and the sooner it is consigned to the dustbin of history the better.
>>24971520By "rationally" I didn't mean strategically, I actually agree with you here. I mean that they are correctly sensing they're discriminated against, and that becoming depressed and "failing" to participate aren't evidence of male toxicity or whatever the fuck but instead a recognition that they're getting fucked by quotas Boomers gleefully tout. If you're a dog, and everyone kicks you, and you just stop moving around the house, that's pretty rational. If it kept acting like it's having a great time, you'd call it crazy. But you're right, the optimal response would be for the dog to run the fuck away and find a new home... or even bite. I'll have to read this article. >>24971533Generally, the best thing for such a group of very capable people with deep grievances is to outright just render the old institutions superfluous. A more aggressive President, for instance, might introduce Civil Service tests, and recruit based on aptitude scores, with university degrees almost entirely discounted. Then, if the FBI rebels or bureaucratically stalls, why not have a competing organization? Perhaps the CRU, the Crime Response Unit, and see which one works better and allocate funding accordingly...
>>24971560>Generally, the best thing for such a group of very capable people with deep grievances is to outright just render the old institutions superfluous.One could read this as extolling the benefits of a coup. Or a revolution. If Zoomers and Millennials, especially the white men from each cohort, simply can't get ahead in the current system, what incentive do they have to maintain it? And what, on the other hand, are the incentives for them to simply bring that system down? They seem considerable.If winning is essential, and you can't win playing by the rules: cheat. Or, speaking more broadly: if the game is rigged against you, and you know you can't win it, then your most logical move is to force the game to end, and start a NEW game, with NEW rules.I wonder when in the West we'll start seeing open Millennial and Zoomer strongmen. Guys like Bukele, but here in America, or in France or Italy or the UK. Guys who simply don't care about the niceties of the current system, but who start getting up in front of cameras and saying, "Don't follow the system, follow me, instead."
>>24971487What shocked me was the reaction to this piece by key progressives voices. Basically:>It didn't happen. It's all lies.>But even if it did happen, it was a good thing.>The only damaging thing is talking about it.>If you talk about it you're a pathetic mediocrity and deserve whatever happens to you.>Yes, we will keep doing it. And if you vote against this, you are racist and deserve what we're going to do to you anyhow.The funniest was Nicole Hannah Jones calling some centrist black dude at the Atlantic who voiced concerns that the "wrong sort of Black" (i.e., right of far left) was also excluded by these practices a diversity hire loser who wouldn't have his job if it wasn't for AA. It seems to have caused several key progressives to have full on meltdowns. The other common response is:>Because young men (including non-whites) turned against us and elected Trump and Trump is bad no one should be saying anything bad about the bad things we did that led to Trump. We are absolutely not to blame. It's bad evil racists being bad, and there is no way we used our power in self-defeating ways and are now reaping what we had sown.
>>24971487If you liked that article absolutely check out pic related. He looks at how across the elite during the Great Awakening elites came to take on marginalized identities and see themselves as oppressed. They then used their status as guardians of the oppressed to justify their own Gilded Age opulence even as big liberal cities began to operate with essentially a caste system where new immigrants lived in poverty to provide elites all the services once reserved for people with slaves and servants through anonimized apps.It rings very true. I worked for richfags in NYC and the all the nannies are from the Caribbean to teach the kids French. Basically all the other help were migrants, many were illegal which allowed the companies to grind them especially hard.
>>24971623Forgot the pic.Dude's discussion of his culture shock at Columbia also sounds spot on.
>>24971533>attempt to integrate into the system.This isn't happening, it's all pretending.>>24971583>Millennial and Zoomer strongmen. But this is already happening. Fuentes is extremely popular. And he is just the first of many.Still, I don't think real change will happen as long as the American global dominance continues to decline with a slow predictable pace. Any movement advocating change will be captured and redirected. Exactly like it happened with the libshits.
>>24971583I doubt there will be any kind of truly revolutionary change. It's more likely many bad ideas of the present will be quietly done away with over the span of several years. The things to watch aren't celebrities or national elections, but school boards and state legislatures.
The culture war is for identity supremacy. What tribe is inherently superior? Black queer women used fraudulent / ideologically captured scholarship, mostly just a ctrl c + ctrl v in Marx with gender and race subbed in for wealth inequality, to con white men into believe “whiteness” is essentially bad. It was effective because slavery and colonial sins have an intuitive essentialism about them, of the “this is America” variety. But then all the blacks and queers etc had an antisemetic orgy when the war started, and tried the usual tricks of their trade “it’s not racist if there’s a power differential”, and everyone collectively woke up from that racist anti-racist nightmare. Now there’s a gender war that wants to explode but it doesn’t quite take off because we all do like to fuck. You can hate blacks and queers because you may never know one in real life and can focus on the viral worst…but we’re all fuckin a woman for life, and their tender humanity comes out gentle and beautiful like a Chekhov story.
>>24971642I see where you're coming from, but I think before we truly doom, we have to try and improve the lot of YWM by giving them elite positions, you know, a place to compete against a lot of these DEI zombie institutions. I think a lot of this slow predictable decline was caused by talented young people, mostly young men, having no real need to fight or prove anything. The simple fact is that the Space Race, for instance, happened because the US had an existential threat, and more importantly, there were competitive young men who wanted to get laid and prove they could do things better than Communists. Young men nowadays are literally dying slowly from want of something to do, something to prove, and whoever can capture that energy, and convince women that this new man is better than the dysfunctional dissipated Tinder state-spouse sexual landscape could make something happen.
people don't yet realise to what extent most western institutions have been slowly poisoned by a completely incompetent, barely literate and arguably not even ensouled underclasswatch this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaYCZaZMj7gthis is happening all the time at every level btw, this will become extremely clear in the next 5 years
>>24971664Oh I agree with you. I'm just saying that there are so many vested economic interests that this is not happening. The more useless the parasitic elite and their underlings are, the more fiercely they will fight to keep their position. And what you are suggesting would see them lose it.Here's a write up regarding the structure of systems with a parasitic elite.https://spandrell.ch/2017/11/13/biological-leninism
>>24971672absolutely surreal. it would literally be better to pick a random bloke off the streets than this, I mean it, literally just a random guy with no looking at his credentials
>>24971627> began to operate with essentially a caste system where new immigrants lived in poverty to provide elites all the services once reserved for people with slaves it was always that way, or at least since the 80s.
>>24971693I'll give this a read anon, maybe I'm just delusional, but I'm just struggling to accept this is really all there is.
>>24971694>The NHS is taking tough action against incompetence and has let go a record number of staff on 'capability' grounds.>There were around 7,000 dismissals in 2024-25, up from about 4,000 two years ago and a record since figures were first collected in 2011, according to media reports.people do not realise at all the scale in which this is happening, our institutions are on the cusp of simply not functioning
>>24971721The public sector has always been a haven for people too incompetent to make it in the private sector. It's why absolutely everything should be privatised.
>>24971866Bullshit, the private sector simply cannot be trusted with the power of the civil service as it will do everything in its power to apply the MBA formula and enrich shareholders at the cost of everybody else. The world you're describing is just Cyberpunk 2077.
>>24971487the way I see it, societies kill themselves after a while, then when real pressure, they double down on being retarded and do it more. stories of every dying chinese dynasty, pre revolution france elite, rome during later republic, 3rd century crisis and final fall, Iran recently and you can make a case for the entire soviet union since it fell apart soon after they got someone born in it's governance in charge. I believe that since power's more concentrated in a small age group of people, it'll keep going longer. There's malice driving alot of them, the track record is clear. Most seem to be choosing people viewed as more compliant or less of a threat, the few with good nature driving them to do this dont truly know what they're doing, Leftism has more or less been allowed total dominance of media and academia for around 50 years now, those with a good nature cannot perceive this scenario we live under as bad.
>>24971866braindead goyservative takeour public institutions used to function
>>24971866it depends. some parts of public sector are very hard to get into and competitive in order to climb through the ranks.
i'm quickly beginning to believe that an armed response is going to become necessary
>>24971583>One could read this as extolling the benefits of a coup. Or a revolution.Lately I've been reading Curzio Malaparte's study of the coup d'etat and it's striking how little it really takes to pull of a coup. A few dozen men at most. The question is whether or not anyone capable of pulling off such a thing can be gatekept from political power, you still need a few sympathetic insiders to pick up the crown once it's been knocked off the head of the current regime, dust it off and give it the appearance of legitimacy.Failing a coup you get a revolution, which is much bloodier and more destructive. It seems like the obvious best path is to simply have an energetic government capable of ushering in necessary reforms, but with our current gerontocracy I really don't know if such a thing would be possible. Political suicide at the very least. Interesting times that we live in, that's for sure.
Basically it's a problem only for MFA litfags, who pull out "Infinite Jest" like it's their long veiny penis and hope someone notices them.If - like me - you are fine reading SF slop, you don't care what others think. That shit may as well be selfpub. I'll read it and will probably pay you for it, and you'll write it and be happy to be paid.
>>24971866>meanwhile, in the private sector
>>24971988It's not. A big part of the problem is that people have simply stopped trying to be involved or speak up. The issues in the article could have been addressed by simply suing the companies and going to the local DAs to press criminal charges. However, people have told themselves that it's a waste of time and they can't do anything.
>>24972012The legal system is designed to make it impossible for you to actually exercise your rights not because no judge will ever rule in favour of you, but because appeals and court costs make it impossible for the party with the shallowed pockets to win.
>>24972012When I was a kid one of my neighbors tried running for Parliament as part of a fringe protest group. He got gangstalked by the cops, arrested at the first opportunity, and came out of prison 8 months later with his brain scrambled.Could be small town corruption, but it seems like there's a lot of that these days and very little political will to even acknowledge it. Won't be me sticking my neck out. Call it an after-effect of cancel culture, but I don't think anyone with a brain is looking to paint a target on their back, no matter how bad things get.>The issues in the article could have been addressed by simply suing the companies and going to the local DAs to press criminal charges. If this were true it would have happened. Actually, in Canada the government has been very open about restricting certain employment opportunities, grants, etc. to qualified groups. It's not a problem of individuals simply not speaking up for themselves, its systemic, and deeply routed in every sector of government.
>>24972012>A big part of the problem is that people have simply stopped trying to be involved or speak uphave you been living under a rock, man? what good is it to "speak up" or "be involved" when your efforts are literally thrown in the bin by the people in charge, which is what happens and has been happening when the *true* political process that determines the fate of the nation happens behind closed doors and away from public involvement? why bother voting for a political party when they're simply going to renege the moment they get into power? this has been happening all across the west for decadesoh, you want to sue a billion dollar corporation - that's what modern universities are - as a private individual? ok, then bend over and lube up because you're going to get stretched out for the next ten years
>>24971663>but we’re all fuckin a woman for life, and their tender humanity comes out gentle and beautiful like a Chekhov story.Queer
>>24972036It's a bluff. They know white men won't sue. They know no one will bother to report on it if the a white male plaintiff wins the suit. Their practices have been deemed illegal multiple times by the Supreme Court. The only reason they can do it is because they haven't lost enough money.If you'd rather be a cowboy, there's always the option of having a personal conversation with their representatives and a few of your friends on terms of your discretion, but you don't even need to hurt anyone. This all happens because there is no accountability. Just doing something, anything to hold people accountable in ways that matter, whether it's draining an institution of its funds or letting individuals know that their community does not approve of their actions is a step in the right direction.
>>24971487>percentage of white males begins to drop precipitously among screenwriter in the mid 2010s>the golden age of tv ends and mediocre tv writing beginsIt’s a cohencidence
>>24972012>>24972049ah yes the real way to change the system is to sue it of course
>>24971663In addition to calling you a homosexual I want to point out your flagrant anti-goyism and general toxic semitism is not welcome in this communitu
>>24972070It's what the Founding Fathers did.
It feels weird to see this stuff coming into the mainstream. I mean, it has been obvious to see for as long as I have been alive, but it has never been acceptable to even acknowledge it before. I feel like I won the goddamn lottery because I got hired at a megacorp that explicitly discourages hiring people like me. If I had a dime for every time I got an email about some new exciting networking or mentoring opportunity for not-me, I'd have several dollars by now.
>>24971866a lot of public sector employement, especially at local and state level is dependent on nepotism
>>24971583>If winning is essential, and you can't win playing by the rules: cheatLets face it, short of a coup d'etat, crimemaxxing is the future. There are Nigerian kids robbing banks with a laptop and Whites are out here retweeting crime statistics and complaining about no longer being the favorite house negro. Pathetic
>>24972115doesn't work under anarchotyranny
>>24972123>le buzzword is why I'm a pussyJust go out and commit check fraud you pussy fuck, the CIA isn't watching you, NSA doesn't have your phone tapped, and lets be real most cops are pretty exceptional if they have an IQ in the triple digits.
>>24972123>>24972150Expanding on this; blacks get away with it because INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE. There are well established criminal networks that have existed in their communities for generations, and they recruit kids young and if they're smart they move up fast.Yeah, there are some judges that give them a slap on the wrist. Same applies for whites. Statistically there isn't any hard evidence that black people are able to just commit crime unpunished because it's funny. Especially with Nigerians, these are hardened criminals siphoning tens of millions out of banks. They're not your average gangbanger. Western Banks are NOT HAPPY with getting robbed, no matter who is doing it.The fact is, it's actually really hard to prove a lot of crimes, if you cover your tracks and do it right. If you hide the money, then the state pretty much is forced to play ball with you and give you a plea bargain to recover losses. The seemingly apolitical nature of crime is also a big one, it doesn't threaten the system as much as somebody organizing a populist political movement. White collar crime works, and gets brushed over because everyone is doing it. Not saying you should go and form an ideologically informed crime syndicate for young white men. Just saying that this idea that your average cop (or judge) cares enough to even understand cyber crime is laughable. Yeah, there's the big fish, the CIA, NSA, and others, but if they're watching us right now I would hope that they're smart enough to realize that the current trajectory we're on ends with a geriatric, inflexible, rentier society that is incapable of innovation, and that such a thing will spell the end of Western civilization if its allowed to go unchecked.
>>24972150>>24972169why are you talking like we all aspire to getting away with crimeI have money, I want a functioning societylike what the fuck are you talking about
>>24972169>but if they're watching us right now I would hope that they're smart enough to realize that the current trajectory we're on ends with a geriatric, inflexible, rentier society that is incapable of innovation, and that such a thing will spell the end of Western civilization if its allowed to go unchecked.I honestly don't think they see it that way. They probably see it more as actually fighting a Nazi-Klan conspiracy and/or "I'm just here for a check." Both types benefit from the current generation of young white men duping the current generation of young white men into being sacrificed for whatever gaggle of idiots thinks they should run things.
being born in the west but having parents from a south eastern european country that is considered a gateway country to asia with a culture that is infused with both eastern and western elements but still looking western/white enough to pass as a westerner makes me feel like i'm going to be in an awkward social spot when everything inevitably goes belly up
>>24972196>5'5 hapaYou'll kill yourself long before that.
>>24972200What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little Macedonian? I'll have you know I graduated top of my horde in the Asparukh stirrups.
>>24971520Read the article. It’s fluff bullshit.As a specific example, it says ‘disasters have been rising’, without backing that up with numbers. Any serious journalist would have some data to back their claim.I am not saying the arguments are true or false (the title-thesis seems ~ok); but the writer is a hack & this article should be corrected or trashed.
>>24971487It sounds like it's Lost Generation(s) at this point judging by the time frame. I also think the numbers, which are grim to begin with, gets even worse when you account that they've clearly been vetting for a certain kind of cultural and political belief among the remnants.
>>24971487The thing DEI don’t understand is what is high status is what is white, if there’s too much DEI there the field/location will become low status. They’ll forever be chasing the whites around
>>24971866I work public sector. My workplace has a lot of incompetence.Several times I have seen private companies try to replace us. They are even worse.I don’t have any easy answers. I want to emigrate.
>>24972200i am 6'1 and look kind of like tom cruise actually, lol (albeit without anywhere near as much elan)
>>24971642>>24971658There will be revolutionary change if a sufficient critical mass of men want it.In particular I think a lack of squeamishness among the younger generations may yield interesting results. Years of gore videos and war videos starting all the way back in 2003 with Iraq have desensitized a lot of people to real violence. I think the first leader in the West willing to simply kill his enemies is going to get a lot of first mover advantages. He'll have willing foot soldiers and a populace that will otherwise just be knocked back on their heels in shock. Being a first-mover on violence is going to accrue a lot of benefit. I'm surprised so few on the Left or the Right realize this.
>>24972204>>24971520There is a great irony in anyone reading that article and thinking it makes a strong case for its thesis while also thinking of themselves as "one of the competent ones." It's trivial to look up rates of industrial accidents, etc. and see that they were far worse in the supposed golden era of competence before there was any framework for regulating or punishing this sort of thing.
>>24972242worse industrial accident rates decades ago were the result of a lack of workplace health, safety and technical procedures. everybody was making mistakes because technology was constantly being innovated upon at a breakneck pace. it wasn't until authorities decided to enforce standardized procedures that the situation improved. example: do you know why the early american missiles used in the vietnam war were so terrible? the air crew handled them improperly, stored them outside exposed to the elements and didn't bother to maintain them much. just these simple little things resulted in appalling failure rates when the missiles were used. it was only when proper procedures and instructions were formalized and given to the air crews on how to care for the missiles that the success rates for them improved dramaticallynow imagine those standardized procedures and instructions flowing into every area of every single industry. it's good, it has worked well and has been in a constant self-updating mode to ensure the best way of doing things ever since, often learned through blood. this is no longer the case. there is no longer any desire to improve those standards and not only that, but they are actively being abolished in favour of diversity. do you understand?
>>24972237There's change already happening. It looks like parents chewing out school boards and principals because their second grader can't read, rather than Robespierre's Reign of Terror. Anticlimactic, I know.
White men are second class citizens. There's nothing else to discuss.
>>24972268>chewing outThat's not going to be good enough and you know it. For sufficient change a price always has to be paid in blood, one way or the other.
>>24971487I believe in might makes right to put it simply. I believe that anyone who managed to successfully wrangle a nation or culture and summarily bleed it dry even in the short-term deserves to be the victor, and everyone else deserves to suffer because they were weak. This is how things exist in both the natural world and frankly it's how your white ancestors viewed everything. Oh you don't like that? Well I don't see you picking up guns and killing the chinks and jeets or kikes, or whoever, you'll just seethe impotently.
>>24971487You guys have to read BOM
>>24972282It's early yet. White folks always take a while to spin up to full speed.
OP here, there's a lot of debate over:1. The competence crisis or whether the solution 2. Whether buying in enough to challenge this shit is worth it, or if it's gone so far that there's no point. I think the most fundamental things I've gleaned from this conversation is that things were obviously bad enough for such a thing to even happen. You know, the environment in 2013 and 2012 was bad enough for YWM that something like sclerotizing their pathway to career was seen as a lucid possibility. But what changed? Obviously, in 2012, it wasn't like conservative YWM were on top of the world. A lot of slop on TV basically espoused the same values it would in 2018. Where did the political will to exclude them come from? What I think happened is essentially in 2012, the Obama Administration saw the data from the 2010 midterms, and the 2012 election against Romney, that white people, particularly YWM, despised the new Democratic Party. All sorts of Obama staffers basically write in retrospectives that the memos circulating around then emphasized that unmarried women and minorities, you know, LGBT people were the only hope of making up for the total flight of white voters from the party. Knowing this, I suspect that when this information started filtrating throughout donor circles and think-tanks, it became very obvious to everybody that essentially destroying the pathways for YWM to obtain professional success was crucial. Obama was in a position to basically say "look, I've tried everything, it's time to just cut these guys off," and that's exactly what he did. Even though most slop on the TV then was pretty much confirming the whole Obama thing, this still wasn't enough. They had to be punished and disempowered totally for their lack of loyalty. While much of this is pretty much intuitively felt by the MAGA base, I think it's important to have such a critical piece of data, and that a lot of conservative intellectual takes miss the deeper point here. This sort of racial revenge scheme is the kind of paranoiac shit that would've actually got you branded a white supremacist back in 2015, but the evidence is right there. You know, this isn't blue-hair femininist brainrot or overactive empathy, you know, the kind of shit conservatives console themselves with. Those people believe that because it allows their personal narrative to align with the larger flows of the world.Rather, it seems clear that at the top-levels, this was a clear-eyed attempt to disempower a rival through sociological castration. But the fact that the Obama Administration's response to the disgruntlement of YWM was a systematic revenge campaign cannot be overstated. This is not a particularly hard story to follow imo.
>>24972414And here we get the normie political spin to grift men into a paticular direction, and to get them onboard with a certain political platform.Obama isnt omnipotent and this stuff has continued through successive administrations as well as through all levels of private (not just public) sector.Dont let Jews like Savage tel you what to think. This happend, and the same people who caused it are now trying to weaponize your pain to push a new agenda.
>>24972237> revolutionary change if a sufficient critical mass of men want it.Women had a smaller gap in university entrance when they were marching in the streeet demanding equality than men face now. The really astouding thing is that the propaganda works so well huwite men are not only getting shafted, all cries about “representation” were just wedge issues because it just continues once the result is disproportional and now inequality is a good thing actually and just shows how worthless huwite men are (both vs women and other minorities). And they do nothing. They’ve integrated the story so well you can barely get them to say the situation is broken. Where the fuck is the revolutionaries supposed to come from? Boomers got more concessions taking to the streets in protest than any subsequent generation has even seen. Nobody is doing jack shit.
>>24972426Well, I mean, I don't make money for writing this stuff. But I don't really see what you're proposing as a lucid alternative. The fact it's part of a longer historical trend while true, doesn't quite blunt my point. This is pretty clearly symptomatic of an acceleration. It's like saying "yeah, you know, it's not a big deal the cancer's metastasizing, I've had it for a while, it's just part of successive cancer states." If you got two guys, and one of them is saying he can give you chemo, and the other guy says it's a grift, don't blame him for taking the treatment. It's pretty obvious that the Democrats decided YWM had no real place in the future of their party based on data analysis from the 2010 midterms and 2012 election, and then coincidentally their pathways to a career got much stricter. If something like this happened in a hypothetical African shithole country, where the Green Party weren't supported by group X, and then group X suddenly became unemployable in Green-aligned industry due to KPIs, no one would be blaming Jews lmao. They'd call it usual shithole politics, where democratic strategies like courting votes or tailoring agendas is exchanged for antidemocratic ones like marginalization and coercion. FWIW, I agree with you that it's not like Obama single-handedly destroyed YWM. But my deeper point here is after 2012, as someone who used to be a liberal, it was a pretty common conversation to be like "so, like, what's going to happen with conservatives? They can't keep living like this, you know, they're obviously in a race to the bottom." You could have this conversation with any liberal on a college campus, your professors in the humanities if you wanted, and they'd nod their head wearily, and say, "man, it's tragic, they've really just so lost" and then they'd call them racist hicks or whatever a few hours later. Again, I was just a college freshman, but that was pretty typical. If that spirit had pervaded to the bottom ranks, what was happening at the top?
