Platonic/Aristotelian philosophy has been a disaster for civilization, although the damage was done in a lingering effect. There are no "Forms/Ideals"; simply change, tension, holy war, holy fire, cycles, and divine logic
>>24976185Why are you lumping them together when they are opposed ideologies?
I keep trying to explain to normies why Plato is destroying their world because he rejected process philosophy but they just don't get it
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>>24976185It was only a disaster for civilisation, because the christcucks put it into their religion. Plato/Aristotle were very important points in the foundation of human thought. We shouldn't still be turning back to them for living our lives today.
>>24976216I both Agree and Disagree. Agree since Plato's idea of God was impersonal, had multiple religious paths to choose from, and didn't have any definite attributes. But also Disagree since it laid the groundworks for numerous life-denying worldviews, even before Christianity became Rome's state religion.
>>24976185philosophies do not change civilizations
>>24976354reddit take
>>24976203Do you think the Epicurean and Stoics doomed humanity by introducing cosmopolitanism?
>>24976185Based an heraclitean-pilled>>Muh it is impossible for any thing to be and not be at the same timeFagaristotle and plato both were so retarded they took the heraclitean fire symbolism at face value. Well, at least Aristotle actually understood what Heraclitus meant by it later(not Plato though).
>>24976354Philosophy is literally a predecessor of science. Science changes civilizations.
>>24976185are cycles and changes intelligible? can we distinguish the starts and ends of cycles? can we reasonably discern when changes occur? if so, then there's a principle of intelligibility and unity that identifies similarities between things at different times, and that information is captured when the mind apprehends the external object and abstracts something from it (what is that something? I dunno)
