Smile, /lit/! You’re doing the rounds on xitter againhttps://x.com/andrewchen/status/2005289538189738278?s=46
>>24978972
KILL EVERYONE
>>24978972It's all the greek shit that makes every top 100 chart repulsive
>>24978986>complaining about Herodotus of all thingsbiggest midwit in a sea of faggots
>>24978972>>24978973>>24978980>>24978986Twitter retards are actually so stupid. I guess that's why they use an app that literally forces you to write max 2 sentences to protect their users' impossibly low attention spans.
>>24978972>bible first>moby dick>3 dostoevsky in top 10>"the first folio">unabomber>dune>aristotle>aquinas>finnegans wake that no one has ever read>hegelthat's why this board is absolutely disgusting
>>24978997True liking Finnegan's Wake is like pretending to like modern art
>>24978980Jeez, I might have been too harsh on c/lit/ if normies think the top 100 is some kind of obscure 200 iq university level circlejerk.
>>24978972>dumas is on this dogshit listwhere's the da vinci code then? why are there works of philosophy on here, and if there are, why are there only 4 or 5 of them?
>>24978997cry more faggot
>>24979000Finnegans wake is modern art.
>>24978972>hegel over schopgodnot a single hegelian on this board but he's ranked higher explain
>>24979007Exactly it's shit & nihilistic
>>24978972>>24978973>>24978980Not sure if the libtards whining about the lack of women and the Iliad being “unreadable” or the people romanticizing le 4cuck as some bastion of the humanities are worse
>>24979001These days normies are impressed and think you're an elite, snobish 200 iq university level master if you read anything besides genre literature or something that is more than a hundred years old.
>>24978972Buy an ad for your xitter account next time, faggot
>>24978986Paine is right.
>>24979008see >>24978986 >>24979058
>>24978972The quoted tweets are even better go post them you lazy faggot it's your thread
>>24979087Ok
>>24978996This. Literally what is the point of Twitter when the max word limit is so small and you have to pay to unlock more characters... The fact that this clearly inferior product was chosen by the free market tells you all you need to know about human beings.
twitterfags should be put in concentration camps and tortured with blowtorches
>>24979115I hate this type of person, talking like he knows shit when Peterson has always been hated on this board
This thread is reminding me that while /lit/ may suck at least it’s not twitter
>>24978986>>24979058Paine is wrong. Most memorable opening of any historian and certainly belongs on the list>What Herodotus the Halicarnassian has learnt by inquiry is here set forth: in order that so the memory of the past may not be blotted out from among men by time, and that great and marvellous deeds done by Greeks and foreigners and especially the reason why they warred against each other may not lack renown.
>>24978972I'm a Christian but the entire bible being ranked number 1 is such a LARP.
i get more excited when reddit talks about us
>>24978973Even if I try to imagine myself as retarded as possible, I still can't imagine calling lotr and homer unreadable. The other stuff maybe but Tolkien especially is beloved by retards everywhere.
>>24979160No. God's word really is that good.>I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it. He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him
Periodic reminder that voting on the 2024 list was rigged and it‘s a food thing that we‘re not even trying this year.
>>24979162Twitter is so boring, everyone’s just a personality-less pseud pretending to be above it allAt least Reddit has character and we have our schizos
>>24979119It made much more sense when Twitter first came around.The strict character limit made more sense when it was a platform primarily designed to be used via SMS.
>>24979160I'm also a Christian and would have to agree, mostly because it doesn't single out a specific English translation of the Bible.
>>24979190I'm sad to see it shake out that way because I found Twitter to be pretty fun from around 2010 to 2013.
>>24979000>'retard detected
>>24978973>name a woman for $1we named about a 100, but you don't see that on twitter
>>24978972every few months the latest list will make the rounds on twitter and i feel fucking insane reading all the inbred retards incapable of understanding how a poll works dropping their hot takes on it. do all these idiots think there's some hacker named 4chan hand curating a 1-100 reading list of must read literature for these?
>>24978972>>24978973>>24978980>>24978986>the people that are most impressed are the degenerate retards that pay money to access a free websiteNothing surprises me anymore.
>>24978973Bible is nowhere near mostly unreadable. Whole NT is perfect for rereads. 5 books of Moses also good. Only thing is 1 Chronicles that filters me.
>>24979319quick, post it to xitter!
>>24979319Is there a list of these /lit/ lists? Anons seem to have them handy for most topics , but I haven't seen an archive of them or something of the fashion
>>24979429they are called "charts" and they used to be in the sticky or posted in some megas.
>>24978972A handful of shitters tweeting out of their twat is uninteresting, but 3.4M xitter lurkerses glimpse of 'the chan' today being deferential seems like a stir
>>24979429Just browse the 4chan section at all good bookstores
>>24979429a Guardian journalist's hands have typed this post
>>24979739>all good bookstores>pic is obviously inside an (((Indigo)))
>>24979141The worst thing about this godforsaken place is that it's somehow better than everywhere else.
>>24979781We may call this the Fortunate Lit Paradox.
>>24979739I'll take Lolita, Ulysses, and the Morrissey bio
>>2497897246/100BDE just throbs
>>24978972This 2024 chart is one of the weakest since the polls began. The only improvements are Three Kingdoms making it on the list and IJ dropping out of top 20.
>>24979881I understand there's plenty of reasons to dislike the book but honestly that made me sad, feels like we lost a little bit of site culture with the dying IJ circlejerk
>>24978972>>24978973Leftists obsession with reading from diverse authors rather than the things that they like it's something else.
>>24979111Huh? Wuthering Heights is the only book on the list written by a woman and it's 35 spots below Ted K.
>>24979319DisgracefulBending the knee for the approval of some Twitter faggotry.Shameful display
>>24979989Shelley's on the list.
>war and peace half a dozen points above Anna KareninaDidn't look any farther down than that. Absolute pseud list. Literally no one has ever thought wnp is better than anna
>>24978973>long books>unreadableHow? These aren't even weirdly experimental works for the most part. I understand complaining about Finnegans Wake but the Bible, Moby Dick, Don Quixote and Brother's Karamazov are perfectly intelligible books written in intelligible sentences. Is it so fucking difficult to sit down for a given sequence of days and read them from first to last page? You just need time and commitment, any autstic retard can get to the end of all these in some months.
>>24978997>bible first>moby dick>"the first folio"Nothing wrong with these
>>24980085Nor, at the time, had it failed to enter his monomaniac mind, that all the anguish of that then present suffering was but the direct issue of a former woe; and he too plainly seemed to see, that as the most poisonous reptile of the marsh perpetuates his kind as inevitably as the sweetest songster of the grove; so, equally with every felicity, all miserable events do naturally beget their like. Yea, more than equally, thought Ahab; since both the ancestry and posterity of Grief go further than the ancestry and posterity of Joy. For, not to hint of this: that it is an inference from certain canonic teachings, that while some natural enjoyments here shall have no children born to them for the other world, but, on the contrary, shall be followed by the joy-childlessness of all hell’s despair; whereas, some guilty mortal miseries shall still fertilely beget to themselves an eternally progressive progeny of griefs beyond the grave; not at all to hint of this, there still seems an inequality in the deeper analysis of the thing. For, thought Ahab, while even the highest earthly felicities ever have a certain unsignifying pettiness lurking in them, but, at bottom, all heartwoes, a mystic significance, and, in some men, an archangelic grandeur; so do their diligent tracings-out not belie the obvious deduction. To trail the genealogies of these high mortal miseries, carries us at last among the sourceless primogenitures of the gods; so that, in the face of all the glad, hay-making suns, and soft cymballing, round harvest-moons, we must needs give in to this: that the gods themselves are not for ever glad. The ineffaceable, sad birth-mark in the brow of man, is but the stamp of sorrow in the signers.
>>24980048It's like I said, Wuthering Heights is the only book on the list written by a woman.
>>24979763>obviouslyHow could you tell?
>>24978972>click profile>scroll down>its your typical corpofag AI glazer gen x who tried to farm engagement from people onlineI fucking hate normies like that nigger
>>24980105this fucking slaps
>>24978972The simple fact is, 4chan is the only "social media" I use. I have no idea what the rest of the world considered "good" or "well-read". But some of those replies are mind-numbing. There are times I hate this place, but it's the best place I have.
>>24978972Not only are we well-read, we also excel at counting empty boxes.
>>24980096the bible has been debunked, which makes it worthless.moby dick is literally unreadable.first folio is not even a real book but a collection of books which would disqualify it in any serious list.
>>24978973btw the guy saying "unreadable" works for a nonfiction publisher, lmao
>>24978973What does he mean by unreadable?
Duality of man
>>24979842very good picks
>>24980335>Bible>debunked?
>>24980397das rite
>>24980397it's been confirmed god sent a plague of geckos, not frogs
>pseuds like the top 100 pseud book chartNo shit retard. The list is performative. Anons want to seem like cultured /lit/erati so they pick books that they think project that image.
>>24978997>>24979004>>24980096It's list for schoolboy, 14-16 y. o.
>>24980403Explain.
>>24980413Christopher Hitchens voice) Literary investigation shows the Bible was written after the stories that were told within it and by different people then whom the the church would have you believe…………. The Who Wrote The Bible has been studied and is explained in great detail by Thomas Paine in his book, The Age of Reason. Thomas Paine lived in the 1700s so the book has been around quite a while. There are other more recent studies. The When Was The Bible Written is clearly stated within the Bibles own text. For example, you can’t tell a story about a man, and then his son, and then his grandson and so on and so forth while supposedly being around for all of it. The testaments written have to be handed down instead of witnessed. There are several examples. I realize I did not give a lot of specific examples because of time/space and Google. Everything I stated about the historicity and investigations of the Bible can be confirmed.
>>24980428So you are telling me that a person writing a history might have to exist after the event?
>>24979457>3.4M xitter lurkersesit's fake
>>24979881Where is the 2025 chart?
What we're looking at isn’t really a list of thegreatest books ever written, it’s a bunch ofexamples of one very particular type of book:the long, morose psycho-philosophicalnovel. Like every list of books, it’s anexercise in summoning an aspirational type.This time, it’s the brilliant sensitive youngman, quiet, maybe lonely, misunderstood, acreature with hidden depths. The long,morose psycho-philosophical novel is whatthis type of person is supposed to read. Thisis why this collection of all the old canonicalstandards still has some very notableomissions. No Middlemarch: it’s toopolyphonic, too relational, too much like thechatter of the high school cafeteria, whichyou, as a brilliant sensitive young man, aretrying to escape. No Dickens, for the samereason. There are a few books that don’tmeet that description, but they’re all someform of set decoration. You’ve got to includeHomer, or people won’t take you seriously.You need the Bhagavad Gita to show depth.Chuck some Hegel in for roughage. But theset decoration still has to contribute to thegeneral tone. That’s why the Critique of PureReason makes the list, but not Spinoza's Ethics, which has a sharp mineral clarity but doesn't manage to scratch 150 pages. Not long enough: it needs to be impressive. It's just verydepressing to see them like this, torn out of the world that contained them, laid out motionless, one after the other, like props,like bodies in a mass grave.
>>24978972>2024ew
>>24978986>>24978980>>24978973I should insult you for posting shitter screenshots but it’s also a refreshing reminder that as much as this place sucks everywhere else is worse. What vile people and awful opinions.
>>24979403The Jewish info dumping about laws prior to the conquest and land parceling after the conquest and textual blueprint of the temple and other such autism is mostly unreadable, the genealogies would be too but they tend to be briefer than all the other stuffOtherwise the Bible is readable throughout
>>24979160It's not a bad choice for number one, really, especially because it is such a diverse work and is so immediate we can't even really functionally compare it to other Western works, though the choice was certainly inflated by Christfaggots who probably didn't even read it.
>>24980130top right of the image: Indigo-branded trash cans by the door.also the vastness and aesthetic of the interior space. non-Leafs might not be familiar with Indigo but it's basically Canadian Barnes & Noble except that it literally funnels a portion of its profits to the IDF.That's not me doing /pol/tard "everything is kikes" schizo shit, either. That's a very real and very explicit thing, the company is even proud of it: they fund a cross-training program that brings IDF soldiers to Canada on a temporary basis.
>>24979739>ToradoraThe most widely read and analyzed book on /lit/
>>24979119You have to pay more to write more? Thats retarded
>>24980232Its the only place we have fren.
>>24980585I hate when people constantly complain about this board and how it used to be better, precisely because of this. People need to be grateful for what they have instead of crying about what they've lost.
>>24978980>The Watchman
we did it plebbit
>>24979881I agree. Is there a 2025 chart?
>>24978973ive read 6 from the top 11 plus a bit of bible, and im an actual retard
>>24981460>news: unveils
>>24979003Plato is one of the mosy beautiful writers you absolute pleb
>>24979123>dated this guy in hsit was me. I am him
>>24979015>Finnegans Wake is nihilisticout of all the posts that have been posted on this site, this is the most "I HAVEN'T READ THE BOOK" post of all of them
>>24981569>open book>it's gibberish>drop book
>>24978972>the Bible is number 12016 ruined 4chan beyond repair, not even my theologian friend said it's his favourite book, half of the book is just "trust me, this is the wisest thing you've ever heard I swear"
>>24981572>the book was abstract therefore it espoused the opinion that there is no absolute meaning in the universe
>>24978972funny because it's not representative of what this board posts at all,how does it feel /lit/ that you have sold your soul out to impress whores on twitter
>>24981575this desuthere are no Christians on this shitheap website, we've just been infested with teenaged larpers and lead-poisoned alcoholics that fell for that Q scam. nobody here will see Heaven.
>>24978972The thing I want to know is why there's so much Dostoevsky. Is it just because he's Dostoevsky, so naturally you have to put as many of his works as possible on top. Crime and Punishment at 6, Notes From Underground at 10, The Idiot at 24, Demons at 41? Seriously? C&P is good but sloppy and ugly, Notes aren't that deep, The Idiot is painfully inconsistent (great first and terrible third book), and Demons are decent but should be nowhere near this list. The only work that deserves its inclusion on the list is The Brothers Karamazov and even that is too high.
>>24981578Modern art is nihilistic in act and intention because it abandons the quest for beauty and instead relies on gimmick and novelty and experimentation with the medium itself instead of just trying to incarnate Beauty.
>>24978972>>24978973To be fair the list needs Virginia Woolf or Flannerh O'Connor
>>24978974Monkeys have tails. This is an ape.
>>24981687/lit/ literally isn't mature enough for Virginia Woolf.Notes From Underground is in the top 10. /lit/ has over a decade and many miles to go, yet.
>>24978997It used to be based but then petersonism invaded and enshittified the board beyond redemption
>>24981698You could just have mentioned Tolkien being in the top 10 for a better argument about it being a manchild list.
How many of these has /lit/ actually read? Ive read less than 20%
>>24981805The only honest anon.
>>24980342>nonfiction publisherYou'd think he'd like reading all the long ass genealogies and/or listings in the bible plus like 2/3rds of Moby Dick
>>2498180566i didn't vote btw
>>24980096First Folio seems like a cheat.
>>24981663Because the list is made primarily by college aged boys and thus slants in the direction of what that demographic thinks is good/deep. Not saying that as an insult.
>>24978972There have been about 10 posts clout farming pennies from elon about last years list in the last week and all of them have 5 million plus views. God I hope no one comes here.>>24978973
>>24981851>didn't vote btwSounds about right. I can't remember if I did or not. I mightve shilled Herodotus.
I've read 25% of these and own an additional 55% that are to be read. I am on a good path.
Thousands of xitter users are calling me a prepubescent pseud because of your gay chart. I'm trolling the shit out of the next one. Fuck you.
>>24978972But is there a problem with this list? Outside of a few meme picks and placements (Bible being #1, Unibomber's Manifesto, the Confessions and etc), it's an ok top 100.
>>24982078it is a good list. it's what you'd expect from a top 100 books ever list with some meme entries. the ranking is not so important imo.
>>24981663>be random 19th century russian sad man>write characters that represent hedonism, nihilism, and moral relativism, and make them find God or show their fall>fast forward>be random 21th century young sad man>schools, popular social movements, and even the government in most cases teach you to be hedonist, nihilist, and a moral relativist>rise in suicides and degeneration, rise in youth religionHmmm... I wonder why is it so popular among young men...
>>24981698>/lit/ literally isn't mature enough for Virginia Woolf.You are not mature enough that moby dick is american nationalist propaganda and trash.It got four song and dance numbers, one being about sailors bathing in sperm.
>>24981663behead those who insult Dostodaddy
>>24981883Otherwise, Shakespeare would take up ten slots
>>24982272so?
>>24982152>write characters that represent hedonism, nihilism, and moral relativism, and make them find God or show their fallGuess I need to read his stuff. Any recs for babys first story?
>>24982299Crime and punishment is probably his most popular work. I’d start there.
>>24980575Women can't imagine anything. They're terrible human beings and therefore terrible writers.
>>24981663agree, waves is better than half of this list
>>24978972Remove the bible, and replace it with the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and it would be a truly great list.
>>24978972I shall be the first to point out that Kafka shouldn't be in that list.
The list is missing Umineko no naku koro ni by Ryukishi07
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>>24982801No
>>24982188dostokek*
>>24980128Kek
>>24979139even xitters bait
>>24978973>>24978980it's so fucked up how dumb people are. i can't believe people are seeing this and thinking it's either unreadably pretentious or highbrow genius.the obvious and correct criticism of the list is that it's safe, too much space devoted to indisputably great, broadly recognized classics and not enough going out on a limb for something unique. this is just a consequence of the approval voting method.>>24981663it's approval voting, which favors works universally agreed to be "good" over works that are divisive but often considered "great"
>>24980085Because most burgers read things on social media, so only 3 sentences at a time.
