>the two greatest writers were not whitehow do poltards of the pseudointellectual variety cope?
>>24981390Overrated.
>>24981390As a blackanon. I am confused.
>>24981393nazis considered slavs to be an inferior, non-aryan race
>>24981393There's levels to this.Racism gets so fractal up to the point each person can be considered their own race.
>>24981393Russoids.
>>24981393OP here, 4channers and poltards and amerimutts in general love to go on about slavs not being white. Ironically slavs are the 'whitest' people and american 'whites' are all mixed mutts.So I present them with this conundrum:If slavs are not white, the greatest two authors of all time (Tolstoy, Dostoevsky) were non-white and thus we have to admit that in this logic 'non-whites' have achieved more in the field of literature (the most civilized art-form) than 'whites'.Now...Let's talk about music....CLASSICAL music! >>24981406>>24981399It's not about this.
>>24981390Poltards do not have any sign of intelligence or even capacity to hold a brain, Why are you asking them retard.
>>24981399>>24981429It's funny to me how people think race or skin or identity or culture matter on a person, It's like people cling to the delusional zodiac archetypes made by retarded fucking humans and are exchanged by even lesser breeds of humans
>>24981390Shakespeare and Goethe weren't white?!
>>24981449The riff-raff likes their metaphysics too much. Some live their lives according to dreams and myths because reality is too much for them to handle.
>>24981449of course it matters. you're posting like a jew
>>24981457Yeah that's why they can't leave their homes, But still it's a one life, So maybe why not indulge in meaningless symbols but atleast in one's that are essentially cool rather than retarded ones.>>24981468It does not matter retard, You're under the illusion of the jews and still think with their ideologies, Nothing matters, You're gonna die and the symbols will desert you and go back to another retard.
>>24981475>Nothing mattersnot denying the jew allegations
>>24981406The good Russian stock was exterminated or exiled all over the world during the implementation of a Jewish ideology (Marxism) by overwhelmingly Jewish commissars and NKVD officers.
>>24981443The most awful thing is that there's a whole country that thinks like /pol/: Estonia. This thread, with its weird Russian hate, reeks of the average academic Estonians - yes, academic, because Estonian humanities are one of the few that refuse to grapple with postmodernism and how postmodernism undoes all conservative identitarian thinking.It's very depressing when the only place you can ran away from the misery brought by fascist retardation is also overran by said fascist retardation. >>24981406This is another weird /pol/, Estonian, Latvian, Finnish infographic which they use to imply that Russians sodomize each other. The reason is drugs. Life in the post-Soviet world is shit, people are retarded and shit - the average 4channer is an angel of compassion compared to the average Estonian or Russian - and so people resort to hard drugs like opiates to feel some kind of satisfaction, satiation, and warmth. These drugs are usually injected with dirty and shared needles. Now you have HIV. In essence, the HIV spread in Eastern Europe is due to opiate addiction brought about by poor living condition, poor interrelations, and utter hopelessness, not by ubiquitous gay sex, like /pol/ and Estonia likes to say.
>>24981449But race is real and and there's a great degree of scientific consensus on the matter of HBD
>>24981501Weird post.I've lived in Russia all my life, and the statistic seems off. Maybe I'm not hanging out in the correct circles.
>>24981561Better hide >>24981591, documenting Russia's 1,000,000-2,000,000 losses is a crime in Russia.
>>24981429>pandering to racistsThey don't give a shit about your achievements and they will never be persuaded to see you as an equal. Ideological racism is a mental illness rooted in the desire to take credit for things one never did and obtain a feeling of superiority over others. It's a psychological crutch to give oneself self-worth. It can never be driven out by argumentation or demonstrations of cultural achievement. The Jewish people have the most cultural achievements of all and yet they are the most despised of all by racists. People from maligned ethnic groups who try to pander to the feelings of racists by making posts like yours should understand that it will never work. The racist requires a new victim perpetually. If they subjugate the blacks first, they'll go after the Irish next, then the Slavs, then the Italians, etc. It never ends.
>>24981475>bro like NOTHING matters, except you shouldn't' be a hecking racist, that's the one thing that does matter
>>24981591It is truly astonishing how the subhuman hohol pigs hiding from the n-th wave of mobilisation still think that their subhuman pig squeals about Russians, not them, operating in human waves are met with anything but condescending smirks.Do not squeal too loud in response, subhuman pig, or the busification teams will hear you from the street.
>>24981429>Now...Let's talk about music....CLASSICAL music!Scriabin is one of the greatest keyboard composers of all time. Top 5, easy. Legitimately one of the most fascinating figures in art history and one hell of a developmental journey. Awe-inspiring.
>>24981606whites will never see non-whites as equals, period, because they aren't. "anti-racists" are simply whites who play status games with other whites over their treatment of non-whites. as you can see right now with eg the somali daycare fraud, "anti-racists" are pathologically incapable of treating non-whites as full moral agents. if you're brown you can murder, rape and steal and the "enlightened" whites will never stop make excuses for you because they see you kind of like a stupid dog that won't stop peeing the carpet, and in their culture it's high-status to be forgiving to stupid animals. neither your crimes nor accomplishments will ever truly matter because you're not a full person but a kind of pet kept around so that classes of whites can differentiate themselves by how they relate to you. the actual solution is that non-whites should simply not live in white countries. it's not good for anybody.>The racist requires a new victim perpetually. If they subjugate the blacks first, they'll go after the Irish next, then the Slavs, then the Italians, etc. It never ends.one of the wackiest progressive propaganda tactics on display here. the irish, the slavs and the italians are objectively being "gone after" right now in america, for their whiteness: being denied jobs, access to education, social programs etc, precisely out of "anti-racist" sentiment. but they're supposed to vote for their continued factual racial discrimination by "anti-racists" out of fear of imaginary future racial discrimination by "racists"? again, all this stuff is really just a game being played between different classes of whites.
>>24981660This post is so quintessentially russian. The labored, unwitty attempt to express as much hatred as will fit in a paragraph for those you've chosen as your bullying victim... eh, just repulsive. The "Russian soul" is the smell of stale piss in a provincial train station.
>>24981606>They don't give a shit about your achievements>a psychological crutch to give oneself self-worththis is simply not true. like any other idea, racism will serve a different function for different psychologies and you're cherrypicking only the lowest-status, lowest-character racists. meanwhile even the most extreme racist whites, if they are men of character, have no problem at all acknowledging the achievements of other races in areas in which they show legitimate merit. why do you think statements like "black men make great athletes" or "asians are good at math" had to be condemned by progressive society? precisely because racists had no problem making them, and it conflicted with the propaganda image of what racism is.
>>24981479What do you mean desu
>>24981702>>24981833It is one thing to acknowledge a genetic or cultural basis for, eg., black underperformance on the social level and to conclude the ineffectiveness of progressive policies regarding policing reform and affirmative action from this. That's something that I certainly agree with and have known about since witnessing the dishonest media coverage of the George Floyd riots. This is not racism but an objective anthropological thesis which I view as unfortunate but likely true. Ideological racism uses these anthropological conclusions as cover for an abominable sadistic narcissism. I have spent time in these circles and I know for a fact that this pathological obsession with superiority and inferiority becomes grounds for purity spiralling about who is truly "White" (now reverently capitalised in all of their posts), as well as a murderous hatred for anyone outside of that niche group. To pretend this doesn't happen in the rising fascist movements throughout the Western world is just laughably dishonest.
>>24981429Are we going to talk about how Tchaikovsky wanted desperately to be Beethoven but failed repeatedly at symphonic form, and how his attempts at stage music are child‘s play next to Wagner? Or are we going to talk about how Shostakovich was a tedious contemporary minimalist whose work is tepid, uninspiring, and a complete acquiescence to the Bolshevist spirit? Or are we still on pretending that a gossipy social dramatist and a depraved drunk with vague christoid overlays are writers of note?
>>24981949>This is not racismit is absolutely racism. when you acknowledge biological differences between races and use them as a basis of moral or practical judgement, you are a racist. this is simply how the word is used. all those european empires of old were racist in this sense, and of course they didn't need to be racist "to give themselves self-worth" - they had plenty of legitimate self-worth to go around - and neither did they feel the need to ignore non-white cultural achievement, in fact they often gave more of a shit about those cultures than the natives did, unearthing and preserving their artifacts and so on, being fascinated and inspired by them, all the while remaining extremely and undeniably racist in their outlook.>cover for an abominable sadistic narcissism. I have spent time in these circlesright, but if you spent time in analogous leftist circles you would find the same purity spiraling, the same sadistic narcissism, the same vicious backstabbing envy, except it would be dressed-up in progressive language about who is the most enlightened about the plight of minorities or whatever instead of who is the "whitest." the lesson here is that personality comes before ideology. the commie tranny and the incel neonazi are the same person driven by the same low character, who has simply fallen in with a different crowd and learned a different vocabulary to justify the same basic behavior, ie aggressive bottom-feeder status seeking. at the same time i don't think anyone needs to worry about any of those people gaining power in any real, large-scale way. they can't really build lasting social structures, only undermine them. the "racism" of any hypothetical future "racist" western world order would have to be erected by someone very different from the internet-neonazi-type subversive rats.
>>24981978mozart <<< verdi
>>24982288Then we're just arguing over words. Racism -- or, if you like, call it Racism_X to distinguish it from your definition -- is rooted in the fallacious inference of individual worth or characteristics from group averages, as well as the moral claim that members of a race must stick together and fight other races. Statistical averages provide a probabilistic way to infer individual characteristics, of course. Because the average man is 5'10" I may, if I knew nothing of a given man, have a probabilistic reason to believe he's not 6'4". But this would provide me no certainty of such a claim, only a weak probability in favour of it. I would have to actually see the individual himself to make any claim about him. However, if I were a ruler tasked with governing a vast multitude of people, then the statistical average would become important. For example I may require that public doors be of a certain minimum height, even though this may not perfectly accommodate the tallest people. Similarly, a President may choose to bar immigration from a specific nation which does not conform to our way of life. This would be unfair for the worthy immigrants of that nation, just as the door height is unfair to the tall, but the need to make practical decisions given imperfect information and limited resources would justify the decision. I have more to say, just scratching the surface here, but this post is already getting long.
>>24981978>How is the success of Wagner’s works to be explained?>That success I explain to myself in this way: thanks to his exceptional position in having at his disposal the resources of a king, Wagner was able to command all the methods for counterfeiting art which have been developed by long usage, and, employing these methods with great ability, he produced a model work of counterfeit art. The reason why I have selected his work for my illustration is, that in no other counterfeit of art known to me are all the methods by which art is counterfeited—namely, borrowings, imitation, effects, and interestingness—so ably and powerfully united.>From the subject, borrowed from antiquity, to the clouds and the risings of the sun and moon, Wagner, in this work, has made use of all that is considered poetical. We have here the sleeping beauty, and nymphs, and subterranean fires, and gnomes, and battles, and swords, and love, and incest, and a monster, and singing-birds: the whole arsenal of the poetical is brought into action.>Moreover, everything is imitative: the decorations are imitated and the costumes are imitated. All is just as, according to the data supplied by archæology, they would have been in antiquity. The very sounds are imitative, for Wagner, who was not destitute of musical talent, invented just such sounds as imitate the strokes of a hammer, the hissing of molten iron, the singing of birds, etc.
>>24981978Since when does a Wagner fan bemoan hyper-pacifist Christianity? Wagner and Dostoevsky are mirrored spirits, if you like one and not the other it is because you lack the reading comprehension to meaningfully engage with eitherWagner is 1A to Debussy's 1B in music, but Scriabin and Chopin aren't far behind. Shostakovich and Tchaikovsky are obviously not the pinnacles of slavic music>>24981669You are right>>24981949I cannot comprehend why people attempt to judge races on their inability to submit to the structures of other cultures. Spite, sin, virtue, and genius are everywhere and spread across humanity equally. Blacks have never struck me as particularly sadistic, orientals and westerners never as particularly lacking in it, its just white and oriental sadism has institutional support and backing because our society has Eurasian feudal institutions. It is in the white and the asians specific institutional success that we can observe an exemplary capacity for subservience (to their own ugly machines), not virtue or genius or creativity (which we can observe only in the beautiful aspects of their cultures and virtues of their individuals, as it is for the other races). White America - from conception designed to take Rome and Britains helm as the imperial arbiter of world markets - was entirely incapable of producing culture outside of its interactions with Black art. Black Americans, out of their lack of mobility up meaningless American hierarchies, engage primarily with the eternal human actions: cannibalism, religious community, and/or art. Slavs are very similar, no one can deny slavic genius; slavs are clearly the most linguistically talented race and all aspects of their prose and logic have inextricably influenced global culture, the only structure as universalized to human language as slavic logos is English allegory and irony. Slavs are also the only group who have been influential in theoretical (i.e legitimate) science besides the Jew. And yet, they are incapable of economy, incapable of industry, incapable of participating in civic society, and whenever they recreate these Eurasian systems they crumble in a few generations out of neglect. It is because like the Blacks, they haven't evolved their cultures for millennia to subsume the ambitions of a slave class into cog transmogrification for industry, they were thrust in recently to this Eurasian nonsense, and have not had the time to adapt or build and maintain a legitimate sovereignty from it. The machine has moved so fast in fact, that white people can no longer keep up with the subservience and maleability of the Indian and Chinese (their Eurasian structures have been around the longest so no surprise they adapt to its evolution the quickest), why else do they compose all of the skilled positions in the new technologies? Because markets now demand a specialization too bizarrely contorted and narrow sighted for even the lowest European stock.
>>24981390Idiotic rage bait.
>>24982491Sheer tripe complaining about how it‘s elegant without actually showing that this elegance is cover for some elsewise vacuity. >>24982705>Since when does a Wagner fan bemoan hyper-pacifist Christianity?Any point in his career until around 1880 you dolt.
>>24981390>>the two greatest writers were not whiteTrue, but why are there any degenerated Ukrainians in the picture? There must have been Greeks or Italians.
>>24982722I don't think you understand Wagner's literature whatsoever, it is baffling to take Parsifal as in any way discursive from the rest of his idea
>>24982772In terms of christian pacifism that‘s exactly what it is.
>>24982716WS poltards do like to deny Slavs their honor of whiteness tho
>>24981390>whitest looking mfers on Earth
>>24981501>the deranged estonian leftist at it againStop posting and go back to manning the shop counter. The finns need to get their alcohol right now so they can go back and celebrate New Year’s in an actual country rather than in the open air liquor store that is estonia.
>>24981429tolstoy and dosto aren't the greatest wrtiers, they're just pushed by commies and their allies
>>24981702You are highly misinformed
