"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world"The normie scholar reads this as "limits of thought limit one's interpretations" and "my world is limited by a personalised language of interpretation". Wittgenstein makes a much deeper claim: "The world is a posteriori to a metaphysic more fundamental than the self". The world is but the current material configuration of facts. Whence come facts? The same place where the meaning of language comes from. Now this deeper fundament of the Self and every fact is utterly unknowable to us. Beyond reason, beyond logic, we can not philosophise our way to this place. The apparent arbitrariness of the meaning of words, of the origin of natural laws, and logic it self prove this to us. There is no point in trying to go into mysticism like some Guenonists think as this does not even touch the fundament of every-thing. All of philosophizing, natural, moral, religious, is a forlorn activity. So, what are we supposed to do? Quit. Just live your life. All meaning is hidden from us, only delusions are possible. We delude ourselves by interpretation. We always misinterpret sensory input, leading to delusions of knowing "the" patterns in natural phenomena. We delude ourselves into believing a set of facts like the position of the sun and moon has particular religious meaning. We delude ourselves into thinking the sounds of speech have a power of leading us to correct interpretation. You are Totally Estranged from Truth itself. Do not waste your time (if it is possible to waste) thinking you can uncover things beyond what is revealed to you through conjuring spells of interpretation. Give up. Walk away from the Perennialists and Platonists and prophets.
>You can never know truth>Except the truth that you can never know the truth>Everything is delusion>So don't waste your time in delusions
>>24982000>>Everything is delusionHe appeals to live real life as much as possible. Do not bother looking for the fundamental truths. They are beyond you. An authentic life is only possible by going against philosophy itself.>Except the truth that you can never know the truthyou mistake knowledge "of" something with knowledge "about" something. Knowing there is a place beyond the cave does not make me know of it. Oh philistine...
>>24981979>Stop philosophizingActually, the new Start with the Greeks is Start with the Peano Axiomshttps://archive.org/details/fundamentalsofab0000unse
>>24981979Wittgenstein was a repressed Jewish homosexual living in the early 20th century, his experience influenced his negative worldview and mechanical rejection of everything that preceded him. I wouldn't accept his premises, not to say his conclusions, as what underlied his thinking was a performative lucidity (which was just thinly veiled ressentiment).
How do philosophers not starve to death? They're not doing a job, they aren't providing anything useful or worthwhile to the world...I don't get it? Why aren't "philosophers" worse off than your average, run-of-the-mill starving artist? Reality exists independently from your thoughts or experience btw.
>>24982283Name any important philosopher that did not came from a well-off familiy
>>24982712I can't
>>24981979>"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world"This leaves considerable space - perhaps infinite - for expanding the imperium of one's mother tongue. 'Standing Reserve' is only one surveyor's conclusion among myriads. The dynamic potential of the territory requires the aesthetically driven imagination.
>>24982283>They're not doing a jobThe majority of them are professors, dimwit.
>>24983400Nah
>>24981979that's good stuff but what is your opinion of the fact that Godel actually formalized all of this in his incompleteness theorem? that's right you stupid dumbfuck, there is a formal proof of ultimate unknowability and it is done in logic, aka language.
>>24981979>"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world"Yikes. Didn't read the rest and I'm never gonna read Wittgenstein.
>>24982283Writing something inspiring and thought-provoking is infinitely more worthwhile than being a generic service cuck that dishes up health deteriorating sloppa and yet millions of people do the latter.
>>24981979>There is no point in trying to go into mysticism like some Guenonists think as this does not even touch the fundament of every-thing.The exact point of mysticism is to touch the fundamentals of everything, also known as the One or God. From this you get religions which point to this.Humanity deserves its ills, reading and a lifetime of experience has convinced me.
>pseud drivelTaoists solved philosophy over 2000 years agoMen of the world who value the Way all turn to books. But books are nothing more than words. Words have value; what is of value in words is meaning. Meaning has something it is pursuing, but the thing that it is pursuing cannot be put into words and handed down. The world values words and hands down books but, though the world values them, I do not think them worth valuing. What the world takes to be values is not real value.
>>249835232000 years of "alternative" philosophy just to wind up back at St. Augustine.Hell, back at St. Paul, really.
>>24983531Augustine didn't write about this, he only understood it shortly before his death after a mystical experience, he said 'all that i wrote is like straw'. St Paul did, Jesus obviously, Plato too. There is just 1 realisation and 1 thing to learn, the fruit of all the books.
>>24983514>formalized>theoremmeaingless, meaningless, utterly meaningless!
>>24983514>ultimate unknowability What does it mean? I thought it was Hilbert unknowability, as in failure of Hilbert's program. What's "ultimate" about it?
