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Can you grind to get good at writing? Did niggas like Hemmingway and McCarthy actually practice?
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>>24982791
Yes. It is known that Stevenson, Jack London and Raymond Chandler learnt how to write by transcribing other's works.
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>>24982791
Yes. Becoming experienced in things makes you good at things
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>>24982791
>Can you grind to get good at writing?
Yes but you need a motivator to push you to get writing, writing just for the sake of writing is possible but it definitely is not for me. If you write it should be to express something that speaks to you, that you feel the need to get out there.
Good luck, creative endeavours are a godsend to stay sane in this sea of bullshit we're swimming in in current year
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You can't get good at prose without life experience
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yes, but the will and ability to "practice" is in itself a talent and largely genetic.
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>>24984067
My problem is that I feel like I can never think of something that needs to be said or put out there. Something that is well thought out with proper themes and a core meaning. I’ll read a really good story and wonder why I couldn’t think of that. Sometimes I’ll try starting with a principle but I have trouble turning that into a story. Most times I’ll have a broad concept for a story that comes spur of the moment, but creating a compelling point behind it that truly needs to be said or ties several themes together. Either way, it feels hopeless sometimes because they never seem to be as good as the stories I read. What am I to do? Copy other stories with my own tweaks and changes? Seems stupid. I feel stupid.
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>>24984088
Silence is your friend.
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>>24984097
But I really like writing.
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>>24984085
How do you know if you have the practice gene or not?
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>>24984107
are you practicing right now, or are you talking about it?
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>>24984113
Sometimes I practice, sometimes I talk about it.
Do I have it? Or would I have it if all I did was restlessly practice?
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>>24984070
This.

>The more effort they make… the more all of their organs and drums sound terribly contrived… They are no longer capable turning out anything but ‘information,’… of ‘lifelessness’… They are no longer sufficiently living as to engender anything other that hollow histories which won’t stand up… First of all, a style is an emotion, above and beyond anything else… They have never had any emotion…therefore no kind of music

>An emotional world, an entire life… separates the grammar school graduates from those of the high school… The former are equally well-grounded… in the world of experience, while the others are a bunch of big jokers… Their experience doesn’t come until much later… A man is completely made, emotionally so to speak, by the time he’s about twelve years old… The childhood of bourgeois children is the childhood of parasites… having the sensibilities of parasites… They have never really seen anything…they never will see anything…humanly speaking… They’ll have acquired their experiences through the Greek translations, and learned about life through the Latin versions…

>They enter into secondary school like little Chinese girls with feet to be bound, and they’ll emerge from it emotionally monstrous, amputated, sadistic, frigid, frivolous, and crafty… They will no longer understand anything but the grammatical tortures… Never will they see anything… Aside from the formalistic tortures… they will remain forcefully closed-off, impermeable to the waves of life… dedicated… to the simulacra of emotion, to all of the spiritual charades, to sentimental impostures…

>It no longer takes any real emotion in order to express oneself in ‘high school’ French… It is enough just to pretend. It’s the ideal French for Robots. The ideally, truly cleaned-up Human… is a robot… The Robot is destined to become the centerpiece… Ever since the Renaissance there has been this tendency… towards the advent of the Kingdom of the Sciences and the Social robot.

>The style of smooth neoclassicism… that shining breastplate… having girded them against any intrusion by life ever since high school, forbids them… from allowing anything whatever to penetrate… They move about… in diving suits… pontificate in their impeccable ‘public’ style… polished, shining robots… crawling about in diving suits… Nothing emanates from the fissures of their armor… than a little spray… of infinitely microscopic gurglings…

>Their fatal and robotic insensibility condemns them… to rigid estimations, to descriptions, to overviews of sentiment… They can’t take the risk of mixing themselves up in the least little reproduction of emotion, for fear of committing atrocious gaffes.

>Renaissance, naturalism, objectivism, surrealism, the perfect progression towards the Robotic. We are already there.
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>>24982791
>Can you grind to get good at writing?
Yeah, it's called high school assignments, nigga.
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>>24982791
>Can you grind to get good at writing
No. You either have the spark or not. There is no forcing it.
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>>24982791
Maybe. Some have the capacity for it; other's don't.
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>>24982791
To some extent but there’s natural ability as well. A low iq individual can practice forever and not improve. A dwarf will not become a basketball champ.
The worst part is that big valley of reasonable talent and high effort that will just never yield breakthrough material on the merits at least. That’s where the real sad cases sit and try for decades and they might even be right that they’re better than the shit that gets published, but they’re also not exceptional enough to get picked up themselves. And the other talent tree for this, the social and influencer side where you get the connections to make it, is usually treated as an afterthought. Just make the material good enough and success will come right? Well it doesn’t work like that either.
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>>24984163
>Practice?... Style?... Merde!
>Jelly-belly bourgeois children... they try to fluff up their writing with this thing called style... cripes how they gouge themselves with it... they stuff their faces with it... waffle-waffling on their fat asses... the fustilugs... the lubberworts!...
>But... bejabbers... have they tried using... une ellipsis instead?...
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>>24984824
Celine very much thought style was the most important component THOUGH. His style revolutionized French literarure and it only appears to be just ellipsises to us because we live in a post-Celine world
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>>24982791
Write journal - journal is like your sketchbook to sketch and scribble shit except its words and writing before you can move into bigger 'canvas' that is manuscript
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does crafting shitposts count as creative writing practice?
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>>24984857
This is how D'Annunzio wrote all his books btw. Just meticulously wrote down everything he did or thought or felt and every year or two edited it into a coherent narrative.
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>>24984107
>>24984119
If you have to ask, you don’t have it.
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>>24984840
nah Celine is not that big of a deal, it’s just chud revisionism because he was le based for hating jews
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>>24984864
Greentexts, yes.
If Leddit doesn't clip you, though, it's probably not good.
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>>24982791
What kind of question is this? Is this your first day on earth or something? You learn to do anything by trying to do it over and over again. If you don't like it, you learn from how other people did it by emulating them. Then at a certain point you'll find your own way of doing it. That's literally how it is for every craft or talent or ability in existence. C'mon dude, there's no trick.
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>>24984864
>excellect shitpost form
is so funny



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