>read it all but didn't understand so I used Grok to summarize it for meI don't understand a lot of novels but am actually really enjoying reading. I just can't seem to understand anything beyond surface level. What I usually do when watching reading a book like this is finish them and then go on Grok/GPT or Youtube to have it analyzed for me. I want to do this analysis myself but I don't see any deeper meaning when I can just get it summarized by someone else
>>24982817Ulysses is wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle. At its bottom, you find an author who hates Christ and loves farts.
>>24984242Kek
the value of learning in general isn’t knowing a thing, it’s knowing how to know. you should never swallow anything whole without chewing (and digesting) it.
>>24982817>Guys Joyce is deep, trust meIt's not. It's just avant garde bullshit that people pretend to like to pretend being deep.It's the literary equivalent of pic related.
>>24984278I agree, the purpose of education is to help form a person's understanding of knowledge. Therefore, we should understand that James Joyce went from a writer of intriguing short stories to a man trapped up his own ass.
>>24984242That's Nabokov, not Joyce.But with pedophilia behind the superficial aqueous aquamarine screen.>>24984292It's not that hard of a read. As English as fourth language, I understood the thoughts of characters and sequences of actions (and that includes the Oxen of the Sun).You're just a trooned out retard.>>24984331The point with Joyce is that he wants you to feel certain very powerful emotions through writing. He wants you to have an epiphany. He succeeds with that in Ulysses. If you read the book and felt nothing after the final Yes, you're autistic and low IQ. Likely brown. Highly likely Estonian.
>>24984385>He wants you to have an epiphany.i know you said you’re ESL, but you’ve somehow co-opted an embarrassingly american way of looking at things.
>>24984385Who said it was hard? It's retarded and pretentious, not hard. It's artist's shit, like when you do the needful, saar
>>24984385>The point with Joyce is that he wants you to feel certain very powerful emotions through writing.Quite the opposite, which is why many have problems with him. His lack of actual story, substituting it for commentary, intellectual interests, dense worldplay, etc., makes for a deliberated product rather than a felt one. Demanding that you pick apart and decode something is antithetical to feeling and knowing on a deep emotional level.
>>24984525Some litfic was written for mainstream audiences. But I was responding to the claim Joyce was aiming for feels but he was aiming for thinks. The two are generally competing.
>>24984385I'd rather be an autistic, low IQ, likely brown Estonian than a self-decieved, pseud. You get your epiphanies from the literary equivalent of another man's wank. Get a hold of yourself.
