This is the most absurd fantasy series ever written. I GENUINELY believe the author is a smart guy, he is far smarter than this, but he wrote it anyway. Was it all one big practical joke?
>>24984935Tell me, how can you write this and not smirk while doing so?>The Place bid the man strip and he stripped. Even after so many years of hardship, the man’s frame remained upright and unbroken. He was lean, the way all Ordealmen were lean; shadow inked the overlay and anchoring of his every muscle, his every morsel. >Black hair matted the olive-pale skin of his breast. It thinned to a line as it descended the hollow of his belly, then bloomed about his groin and thighs. His sizable phallus lay grey and inert. The disciple hung his head, crushing his beard. His gaze was swollen and uncomprehending. >The Place drew its robe up and aside, welcomed the kiss of unencumbered air. It approached the man from behind, reached out to clutch the pulse racing in his throat. The truth of a thing … it whispered. It drew its throbbing member across the man’s buttocks … Savoured the flutter beneath its fingertips >Then the insertion. The thrust which shed blood, rutting accompanied by so many tiny droplets… Each its own sphere of passion. The stench of feces and sizzling lamb. The cough that was really a moan … Deep … until all that remained was one place, the congress of Greater Souls. >It seized the man, lifted him from his feet. It used him as he had never been used before, not since the days of his childhood, long forgotten, now remembered in the terrible dark. There was a head upon a pole behind him.
As an American you were conditioned to find it funny
kek i felt the same way. held on reading until sorweel having gay nigger sex immediately after fucking serwa cracked my suspension of disbelief in half.seems like at that point every other sentence was "Men are ever doing so and so, to explain other men as such and such.. thus is the ways of men. Men." dude favors himself a philosopher and teacher over an author.
Neuropath is better because the horrible MC of his fantasy trilogy is more or less the villain.
>>24984935Books 1 to 3 are flawless though.>>24985030This is somehow a criticism? How was it not apparent to you right out of the gate that Kellhus was a villain? This critique says far more about you (You're retarded) than the quality of the work.
>>24985163you know i felt book 1 was the strongest with how it managed to weave a bunch of different plotlines together and the execution of the politicking was excellent2 and 3 become kelhus' world and i wasn't a fan of how cnaiur in particular was reduced as a charactershould i continue with the rest? i left it off with the ending of 3
>>24985194You don't like book 2 Cnaiur? Brother I dare say that that is one of the best characters I have ever read. Just think about what the "darkness that comes before" is when it comes to him choosing to try and randomly save that woman and infant who get turned to ash. Because that act alone goes against everything he has ever said or done up to that point. Which to me completely reframes who he really is.
>>24985030>more or less
>>24984935I love these books, they're near perfect
>>24984935>anon is surprised that manchild slop is slopMany such cases.
Why didnt Kelhus teleport back to his secret autism colony and teach them all how to use magic? One hundred or so super Shamans should have figured out a way to BTFO the No-God AND solve the Hell problem forever
>>24985261He didn't care about them, after being exposed to the world he realised that dunyain faith is retarded. Dunyain want nothing but to sit on their asses and stare at the wall trying to move their own thoughts all day long, thats why they got decimated.
>>24985267Its just weird that he didn't make an effort. Bakker's "magic" is just science, he could have shown them cause and effect and they would have understood. Bring them a dead skin-spy to dissect. Explain that the Consult is real. Worst case scenario they don't believe him and die anyway. Best case scenario he gets allies who can actually pull their own weight.
>>24985284nah >Worst case scenario they don't believe himActual worst case scenario is "Thanks for the magic lessons, cocksucker"*teleports to the ship and immediately joins the Consult to save themselves*
>>24984947underrated
>>24985284His plan required Ishual to be destroyed>but that's crazy!Indeed
>>24985261Cause theres no expectation they will work together when exposed to outside ideas. Look how Kellhus and his own dad got along, they are still individuals.
>>24984935Tried reading this guy, it is just a shittier War and Peace. Genuinely what's the point of fantasyslop? If you want autistically derivative fantasy worldbuilding just play WoW or whatever, if you want a compelling narrative or prose just read real books.I don't think the author is stupid, I mean he put a lot of work into this stuff but any talent he might have is completely suffocated here.
>>24985474war and peace is fantasyslop too genius
>>24985251t. soicuck that reads pomo slop like Ulysses.
>>24985474>Genuinely what's the point of fantasyslop?Placing value on creativity, enchantment, and the non-discursive mind over imbecilic realism.
Book 1 was so kino its unreal. The segment where Kelhus watches Skeaos and is just thinking "what the fuck" while trying to balance courtroom politics was grand. And the Emperor watching him watch Skeaos was downright eerie.
>>24985474I seriously doubt you have read more than a chapter of Bakker. A shittier war and peace? I haven't read that yet but I seriously doubt it contains anything even close to the same themes of Second Apocalypse. Regardless for anyone to read this and not think some of these characters are Dostoyevsky tier is beyond me. You must be reading it like hes Sanderson who would never try to be subtle with character motivations. Meanwhile Bakkers work is all about just this. So frankly if you aren't trying to pick up on these characters "real" motivations the whole concept of the series is going right over your head.
>>24984947Trust me that kind of culture had spread to europe too.
>>24985474The beginning is a bit slow, it picked up for me when we started meeting characters who aren't Achamian.There are truly incredible moments of dark fantasy in these novels. His version of Moria is overshadows other stories to the point of monolith. The Mansion of the Nonmen is a horrific exploration of the dark side of immortality that goes on for chapters of epic-scale tragedy, with new and shocking details of worldbuilding one after another.
