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All that has come out of the last near century has been empty stylism (Nabokov, McCarthy, Pynchon); sophistry (Beckett, Borges, Pinter); pulp (Roth, DeLillo, Grass) or third world pastiche (Achebe, Murakami, O'Connor).
Post-modernism has been a disaster for humanity.
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Haha OP I love froggo! XD
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It's true. Spengler was right. You should read Heidegger's Der Spiegel interview, 1966.

>>24985044
FAGGOT
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There are plenty of post-war French masterpieces.
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>>24985033
I say this with full sincerity, visual novels are the future legacy
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>>24985083
>>24985086
post examples
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>>24985102
Les Deux Étendards (apparently translated into English soon)
Aurélien; La Semaine Sainte
Céline's German Trilogy
Memoirs of Hadrian
Life: A User's Manual
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>>24985130
Disregard Aurélien. It came out in 44 apparently
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Shit bait but a board’s ability to detect bait declines with the quality of posters so this will clear 200 replies.
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>>24985130
>Les Deux Étendards (apparently translated into English soon)
By Max Lawton no less, should be a real tour-de-force
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>>24985033
Love in the Time of Cholera came out in 1985 and I truly believe it's a work of historical value, better than pretty much any other novel of the 20 century
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>>24985161
The only rebuttal anyone's offered is that Life: A User's Manual is on par with the greatest works of literature
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>>24985033
Finnegans Wake
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>>24985270
Thoughbeit the first installment was published in 1924. That or Absalom, Absalom is the last great piece of literature published.
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>>24985033
>or third world pastiche
>(...O'Connor)
...wait, what?
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>>24985033
Of course, OP is fake and self-loathing, but let's say he has a bit of a point and the past 100 years weren't that timeless as one would think. However, it would be far worse if the timeframe we call post-modernism wasn't as distinct as it is. We need progression in the arts, new styles, new territories, new experiments, even failed ones. If you like Ancient Greek plays, fine, songs of the Middle Ages, fine, 18th century romance, fine. There are still sincere and old-fashioned plays, epics, and romances being written. But that's not what the literary scene is interested in.
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>>24985033
Literature ended with the generation of Pound and Eliot.
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>>24985702
As if Pounds Cantos weren't part of the turning point between Modernism and Post-Modernism.
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>>24985033
i know you made this thread specifically to break my new year's resolution of no /lit/ posting. but you won't win, satan.
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>>24985102
Albert Camus, L'etranger and La peste
also, I suspect, Jean Raspail, Le camp des saints because fuck you
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>>24985033
Half of that isn't post modern you halfwit
Also there's plenty of amazing literature so it's a you issue
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>>24985698
>the literary scene
There is no scene. It's a scam. A marketing scam.
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>>24985735
yes, very much so, but even this Mongolian basket-weaving forum cares less about traditional novels than post-modern movements like maximalism.
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>>24985086
This, but unironically. R07 and his work completely changed the way I looked at structure and subtext forever. It helped me think about Joyce in a more agnostic way.
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>>24985731
all of them except one or two are pomo
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Modernism is based
Post modernism prior to 1990 is also based
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>>24985033
Orwell won doeverlbeit
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Slaughterhouse five. Nineteen eighty four.

But I agree that literature has changed and visual novels, web novels and the like will be more influential in a good way centuries from now looking back at our era.
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>>24985033
Weiner
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>>24985033
Mccarthy isn't just style. But yeah it's bleak. I'll fix it thoughever.
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>>24985224
is this true? I can't find any info
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>>24986157
>visual novels
All the good ones are ten plus years old. How do you believe this?
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>>24985102
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>>24987294
Check warosu
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>>24985051
Look at the faggot expert
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>>24987727
that lawton fellow has a big penchant for fascist writers
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>>24985033
Imagine being a monolingual frogposter.
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>>24987736
op needs to expand his world view beyond english writers like borges and gunter grass
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>>24985102
not the second guy but even the obvious popular ones have their merits. the danganronpa games (even ultra despair girls which isn't a vn despite how longwinded at times, but not 3 which is a bad cashgrab anime by some other, notably worse writers), particularly v3 in the original japanese if you can. kodaka got really good at writing characters even if his themes (and sometimes murder cases) aren't exactly the most subtly written, but they are all pretty meaningful at least. that game's themes being about fiction and its relationship with reality and how truth and lies intersect with others.
https://youtu.be/pCKKTgch8i8?si=MN4i5_d-ftyZ-uQ7&t=363
he makes it pretty obvious here incase people didn't get the message earlier but it's a rather profound way of wording it so i don't mind that.

ace attorney has some pretty good stories too, particularly investigations 2 and apollo justice which goes into the purpose of the law in a world where it can fail people due to its corrupt abusers. haven't played the later games yet but apparently they also have good stories, one of them is about terrorism apparently which is always a fun topic.
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>>24987802
A reasonable take on the infamous 4channel? Perish the thought



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