Alone Once More EditionStubbed >>24982319>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLYRecommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
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>>24986649My new years resolution is simple: Write an original story and write a fanfiction for the sole purpose of engaging in the arts without any sort of profit or clout motivation.Also to read more just so that I can learn to be a bit more active and less passive like I am when watching videos.Also fuck tropes.
Why are these threads allowed?
Do you like your Frieren ripoff with male or female lead?
fifth for xianxia and standard fantasy/scifi chads dab on the isekai and litrpg/gamelit autismos
>>24986677I've had enough of books, tv, movies, and anime that feature a special girl that is very special because she is special and has a pussy for one life.
>>24986665What rule does it break?
>>24986665you are free to leave, pal
>>24986677>I have no prompts but I must slop
>>24986687>>24986690You people need to be executed.
>>24986691Left is a human commision.You can tell because the artist fucked up the horns and head shape in a way that only a fleshbag could
>>24986699Answer the question. >>24986687
Best Web novels written by cis women? Preferably on RR
>>24986714super supportive
>>24986714mine
>>24986677Why did none of the male mcs come remotely close to MLA's success? I thought mmc was more popular on rr
Guys, I have good news and bad news.The good news is that I’ve finally surpassed 30k views on Royal Road. The bad news is that my PC charger literally smoked, I saw smoke with my own eyes. Hence, I ordered a new one, but until January 5th I can’t write a damn thing.Sorry to my all my fans…
>>24986783You mean the power supply? Also, you wrote this post, so yes you can. There are many other ways to write.
>>24986664>without any sort of profit or clout motivation.Why? You want to put all that effort in and get nothing out of it on purpose?
>>24986783>The good news is that I’ve finally surpassed 30k views on Royal Road.This is like an adult man being proud that he managed to paint within the lines. Yeah, congratulations, I guess? What's up next, not shitting your pants in public, doing your own shoelaces every morning?
>>24986798ntaResolve to be less carcinized for your New Year's Resolution.
>>24986798I'm working on it.>>24986791My phone can't create the World's End Blog posts.
>>24986794I think >>24986783 sums up the reason pretty well. There's a difference between doing things strictly for just yourself and doing things for an audience.
>search genre I like>read blurb>So the world ended. Whoopsie?fucking millenials
2026. >Patreon made>140,000 words written and edited >waiting on the cover to come in from the illustratorThis is it. Probably just a month or two away from submitting to RR, so long as the illustrator doesnt drag his feet. See you faggots on rising stars.
>>24986861Not without extensive networking and ad spends you won't.
>>24986846I'm finding blurbs to just be unbelievably hard to nail down. Right now it's the only thing holding me back from posting mine at the moment.
>>24986864Thank you, Negative Nancy. Tell your besty Debbie Downer I said happy new year.
>>24986864if he can afford art he can probably afford ads
>>24986878You know the "Rob Schneider is... a stapler!" bit from South Park? Just do that with your story. Make it as corny as possible. Just try it. >Tony Kaku was a fat, virgin weeaboo until one day he fucking died! Wuh-oh! Now he's been reincarnated in the magical world of Puroy as... a sexy dark elf!
>>24986880In some cases it's more that the person believes that the work itself alone is all there should be and everything else is cheating and/or admitting failure.
>>24986845The fuck you mean by that?I love my story, and she is the most beautiful in the whole world!!!
>>24986690That's not what underboob means you retard.
>>24986878Practice makes perfect! Try writing blurbs for books you've read and post them to get critique (not here though).When people say they're good, you're probably good.
>>24986879Ok but do you have shout outs and ads lined up? Because he might be a Debbie Downer but he's right
>Protagonist is over 6 feet tall>DroppedI refuse to read about chad having fun adventures. They already have the best lives in reality
>>24986993Write the next great Manlet Adventures novel
>>24986993What's really pathetic is when the author is short and they make their MC a super tall guy,
>>24986993Read Iron PrinceMC is a short king and his best friend cucks him because of it. Very realistic
>>24986993FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' is short and hairy, while his rival is tall and shaved.
>>24986760half the men in the world are secretly homosexual, and about 90% want to be women, hence the success of femMC stories.
>>24987008thiswhat you think, so too might others.Use trickery and deception to fight, not social capital and brute force.
>>24987076>half the men in the world are secretly homosexual, and about 90% want to be women, hence the success of femMC stories.and then everyone clapped.
>>24987083* and then everyone transitioned lol
>>24986906huh?
>>24987116The filename, you illiterate ESL buffoon.
>>24986993I made my novel mc under 6 foot, Most of the times I don`t think I`ve noticed the height of the main character in descriptionsBy the way, can I link my novel in this thread? would be cool to have some feedback
I refuse to explain what underboob means in /wng/.
>>24987180it's when under the boob
>>24986993Normies can't identify with characters that are under 14.
>>24987034but have you seen his abs
>>24987230I've been meaning to read IP for a while, I feel it would help me comprehend how to be a better slopper
>>24987236ntr (not really)auragrindand incompleteit's got it all
>>24987236I think Primal Hunter would be the best story to read from a slop research perspective.Like how the fuck does it do it?? The patreon is a consistent line up for 6 years straight and it's at like 90,000$ a month. AND STILL GOING UP. And also makes more on amazon than patreonFrom everything I've heard it's not even good either. I need a deepslopper to explain. Is it more Saudi Prince shenanigans?
>>24986894>>24986912What I got after a bit of back-and-forth feedback"While the Imperium has been at war with the Confederacy for the past century, war hero Lawrence Mengde has done everything to end it. He yearns to observe history, not shape it. But what can one man do to carve out an everlasting peace in the face of a forever war?That's why when the Imperium hurls an asteroid fortress towards his capital homeplanet, it prompts Lawrence to question himself his role in this carnage: does he become the very tyrant he spent his life opposing, or does he remain a dutiful soldier, a mere pawn, who could lose everything still dear to him?"Content with it for now—but more urgently need to go back to chapter 1 and give it a total makeover, push the starting scene further back so it's "page 1 heat of battle, page 2 something goes wrong, page 3 shit explodes and lawrence is surrounded" kinda thing, "back to the premise" essentially more in media-res. I've been refraining from having this scene actually written out—figured it was for the better—but I may have to ultimately. So much pain. The starting line only goes further and further away.
>>24987264No, Primal Hunter isn't a good research subject because a large part of its success was a matter of early-mover advantage. The market conditions have shifted too much, imitating Primal Hunter 1:1 won't work nowadays.
>>24987269I don't this holds because other long-runners like DOTF and HWFWM stagnated and fellPH just keeps going up and up and fucking upLike clearly early mover is a part of why it's #1 but it's also clearly the paragon of slop
>>24987271To be more specific, I think the later books of PH are good research material, but not the earlier material. Doing an assfuck long dungeon crawl early on will fuck you over.
>>24987279Clearly readers don't care that much because it's not pushing many away, not at that consistent ridiculous growth rate
PH is fucking terrible, and he's getting away with it
Is there anything super popular in the RR and adjacent sphere that isn't terrible and getting away with it?
>>24987282yes, but they WOULD care about it if it wasn't PHit's the same as vol.1 of Cradle, people power through
>>24987331Okay but what's so incredibly addicting about PH where even despite the bad start it's the #1 grower and outpaced even other big-name early movers like DOTF and HWFWM? That was the question from the start. Why is PH in its own tier entirely?
>>24987295i'm not just saying this out of spite, or for effect, but no; it's literally all terrible. but if i'm being real about it, i don't blame the authors a single bit
why are you guys so obsessed with numbers? write the story you want to write, if 0 people read it then that's fine because at least you enjoyed crafting it
>>24987376you sound like an idiot, why should i listen to you?
>>24987376authorial enjoyment doesn't pay for groceries and i would rather chainsmoke myself to death by age 60 churning out hack writing than live to 80 working a wagie job for the jew
>>24987376this isn't insightful. it's the most boring intro-level discourse ever in artsome people want readers and maybe to entertain the idea of making a living out of their passion. to do so means you need to understand what readers want. so people talk about what readers want, and why they want it. it doesn't mean they're going to mirror 1:1 what they see doing best, just that knowledge is power and analyzing the situation is useful, so you can apply popularity trends to what you personally like to createi hope to god you're just a newfag and not that annoying anon rehashing this argument out of insecurity or neuroticism for the nth time
>>24987390and most people writing and selling novels are paying attention to "numbers", doing market research, etc.
>>24987376The very rare turbo-based artists who are comfortable creating purely for the sake of creating don't make posts like this.Why are YOU obsessed with numbers, anon?
>>24987376doing it for enjoyment is fine, while you are working on your chops IE the ability to write passably well. Then you need some meta, so you can get real readers. and thats even if you are just doing it for fulfillment. The final stage is true market analysis. Standard advice for prospective commercial artfags. First learn all the rules. Then you can decide which ones to break. Once you have some kind of fanbase going *then* you can see how your own personal pt ideas float. Yo have initil interest to take look. What would get zero readers as an unknown, can have a chance to get read by people familiar with your work and you have some name value. I swore I'd never do isekai but now that I'm into trying it I'm enjoying it. Its a new type of story from my usual and new type of characters. Trying to go from personal fulfillment/chops stage to some readers stage. but you do you.
My prediction is that this will be the year battle royale, gacha mechanics, and MC simping for the empress/heroine meta make their way to RR.After all, who the hell still plays MMORPGs nowadays?
When the whole thread falls for obvious bait the 1000th time in a row
>>24987430it was community bullying; a lashing out at a hypothetical idiot
>>24987439There's only one guy in this thread who's constantly lashing out at this 'hypothetical idiot.' We see through you. Go away
