>>24987168You have to be really dumb to believe that...
>movies are the least philosophical artform I'd love to hear what ever bullshit he'd vomit out when asked the philosophical meaning of a piano sonata or a well-made stew.
>>24987178He's just some curmudgeony pseud.
>>24987168No but twitter is worse than both of them
I watched the Dollar trilogy today and it was very nice though.
>>24987168i understand where the guy is coming from since the whole culture surrounding film was degenerate since the beginning. i think that movies very rarely creates philosophical thought - as opposed to experiencing a piano sonata or a well-made stew.
>>24987275Well Tartovsky, Kubrick and Kurosawa are closer exemplaries of cinema than Dollar Trilogy or Marvel.
Unironically, the only worthwhile forms of art in the modern world are video games and anime.
I don't think it is. The possibility of totally passive consumption certainly gives it a worse rep than literature because even the sloppiest werewolf fucker book requires some active attention to transfer into your brain compared to cinema but that is partly on the audience and partly on the cultural degeneration we are experiencing. Cinema can appeal to both the lowest cattle and the highest patrician, and its ideas and meanings are transmitted in a way that cannot be replicated by literature (and vice versa).
>>24987168I used to firmly believe that literature was the highest form of art because of the very strong abstract nature of the written word: much of the work has to be done by the reader to mentally process what one sees as physical, visible symbols that represent sounds that link to both concrete and abstract ideas. In other words, the reader has to actually try to read.I've mellowed on this idea a little bit, mostly because I think "We Both Reached For the Gun" from the 2002 film version of Chicago. I certainly think this dumbass is a trad larper grifting to appeal to a trad worldview, and I think this kind of viewpoint mostly comes not exactly from masturbating over the past, but just because movies are still a very new art form compared to the written word, painting, sculpture, and so on so forth.Something I have not changed my opinion on, though, is that people who larp as traditionalists and jerk off to the past have never truly and seriously engaged with any academic or scholarly work on history, classics, et cetera. The worst offence, beyond perverting ideas for their own personal gain, is that they kind of forget that we're fortunate to have such ancient writings in the first place, and that much of the work of preservation should rightfully go to the very groups people like this would immediately disdain without a second thought.But to answer the question directly, I think film is inherently lesser because of how much work is done for the viewer. But I'm also not so delusional as to write off film entirely or say that it can't be philosophical.
>>24987342I'm stupid, I got so wrapped up in hating trad larpers that I forgot to say that I really like 2002 Chicago.
movies that focus on creating a certain atmosphere instead of being driven by plot are a potent form of art and can capture things that no other medium can in the same way.Atmosphere is to movies what prose is to literature.
>>24987324Not art
>>24987356Meant for>>24987298
>>24987342weakens your position of pointing out wankers & trad larpers when you type out ‘et cetera’
why should an art form be philosophical.
>>24987342>I used to firmly believe that literature was the highest form of art because of the very strong abstract nature of the written word: much of the work has to be done by the reader to mentally process what one sees as physical, visible symbols that represent sounds that link to both concrete and abstract ideas. In other words, the reader has to actually try to read.I agree. You should believe in that again. Not gonna read the rest though, I can't stand to look at your downfall.
>>24987168Competitive games and their associated tier lists have precipitated an catastrophic epistemological shift within the young generations. This autistic obsession with constructive nonsense hierarchies over everything is not only a waste of time but intellectually meaningless.
>>24987168Film and Television are trash. Even vidya is more high brow, because you can interact with shit.Watching a movie is very passive, like getting fucked in the ass by a giant BBC.
>>24987298Video Games, maybe; anime, no.
>>24987353Name some.
>>24987432The content nowadays sucks but Passion of The Christ is a CLASSIC, and erudites of the future better watch it.
>>24987601NTA but i immediately thought of chungking express.
>>24987432In that case so is music?
