forgiveness of sin (deror) in the old testament meant a debt cancellation (jubilee), this was abolished by the pharisees, jesus tried to return debt cancellation and was persecuted for it.if you look at the early history of islam, zakat was quite literally an introduction of the debt jubilee into a usurious society filled with debt slavery that had accumulated too much debt to fully function, this is why the theme of forgiveness is so prominent.now how exactly did zakat function in the earliest generations of islam? everyone nowadays believes zakat is some form of personal charity you give to some random bum or your mosque and thats it.in reality, it was originally collected (this is why zakat is annual) and distributed to free muslims from debt slavery, with duty being eventually being completed when every indebted muslim had reached the nisab (something like a starting capital) of 85-90 grams of gold (10.000 usd today), giving the community financial autonomy and financial freedom to fight for its cause.this is actually a lot more extreme than the biblical debt jubilee, which was every 7 years or so, and only erased the debt, meaning you were simply left with no money to spend.when you realize this shift in perception, its clear why muslims nowadays are so unsuccessful compared to their pious predecessors.
>zakatIs that like izatt or zutt?No, I know! it's what Patrick Bateman always consults
How soon after the death of Muhammad do you believe zakat began to be misappropriated to the luxury of the state/priestly class
>>24989258the decay started slowly.at first it was the groups of early muslims that took care of it, this made it antifragile.when abu bakr made zakat statuatory, and redistributed it through intermediaries, it was still pretty similar.when uthman created a system for zakat that was more similar to a state-tax or tribute, people stopped being directly engaged with it, which caused lots of corruption, and made people more ignorant of its purpose, one of many of uthman's blunders.the meaning finally became fully shrouded under umar ibn abdulaziz, who while being good-intentioned, made zakat an individual duty, which completely obscured its original purpose, and left us with the "zakat" we know today.
How embarrasing that we have lost such practices nowadays. Truly we live in a rotten, degenerate world.
>>24989430It's a shame that not a single Islamic country cares about financial autonomy. Even Iran mostly uses the system to keep it's clergy in leisure rather than actually being autonomous.I know the Ismailis focus heavily on this form of zakat but they don't really have a state. Perhaps Yemen and Oman do but they have other reasons why they are broke.
>>24989240Zakutt
>>24989090Hey OP, interesting topic. Are you talking based on your pic related book?
>>24989258umayyads
>>24989090Islamic economic is a certain subject that I 'learned' like a decade ago, but only scraping the surface of it. The entire thing is actually based and can actually solve some major economical problem in this world, but everything is only in theory and I never seen that thing being practiced in real life. I think it would work, but you need to dismantle the entire current capitalistic system in order for it to work, forgot the big chunks of it though
>>24989875What is "Islamic economics"? Who preaches it besides the Quran and where?
>>24989882Yeah that's the thing. One of the problem about islam economic system is that they come in one single big package... with islam. So it'll be hard to actually implement that thing in society
>>24989875I've been trying to merge some anti usury agrarian communal economic system out of this and deploy it on a small scale
>>24989898antisemitic
>>24989090jubilee being an old jewish tradition is such a profound irony of cosmic proportions. current financial ghouls must wake up from horrible night terrors where revolutionary kings abolish all consumer debt. between nationalizing key industries, criminal prosecution of elites, and mass debt relief its really not that complicated so to what needs to be done
