Why was this bullshit ever entertained?
>>24991131It has some nice ideas.
>>24991131it mogs basically the entire western philosophical tradition that followed it until at least Kant (haven't read Kant yet). From what I have read so far, Republic is the greatest whole of a work that presents ideas in the most interesting way while not being bloated or overly-dry
>>24991131The Laws is Plato being more practical about his dream republic if you want a comparison
>>24991131Because this is not a book about a republic. What is the book about, OP?
>>24991131>provides no explanation for why he thinks it is bullshitWas this the first Plato work that you read?
>>24993360Nta but I have read a couple of Plato's works and I never felt I gained anything valuable from them. All of the conversations are just semantic games and that's never really been my thing. I've never really been into ancient Greek shit so that doesn't really help either
>>24993761I do not like his turn to dualism found for example in Sophist. I don’t believe in individual souls or in lower world vs forms but more as entire universe as one Logos found for example in Heraclitus and Eleatics.
It said exactly what the elites wanted to hear. It's basically a masturbation fantasy for the Lord Farquads of the world.>oh yeahhh baby...forced eugenics...only we can reproduce freely...uhhhhhhhhMost philosophy in general is retarded and based on similar premises of power fantasies.
Because before this, most political theory boiled down to: "Me hit you very hard if you say no. My granddaddy said I can do it, so yes I can."Also this >>24994135
>>24994135>It said exactly what the elites wanted to hear.The opposite. No landed aristocrat wealthy by his grandfather's conduct in the Persian wars or democratic politician chosen by lot wants to hear that what really qualifies them by merit for rule is facility in mathematics and lack of ownership of gold or silver.>oh yeahhh baby...forced eugenics...only we can reproduce freely...uhhhhhhhhThe Republic throws cold water on that too as soon as the subject comes up by admitting that "gold souls" are just as liable to produce "bronze souls" and vice versa.
>>24991131>unzips and starts pissing Worlds collided.
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