How do I convince non-fictions reader to see the beauty in fictions? They seem to only care about the "substance" as if it can't be found in fictions.I think literatures often teach people to have empathy. I just don't know how to express these messages and actually convince non-fictions reader to read fictions for once. how?
>>24992575You don't. Their objectives in reading aren't compatible with fiction. They aren't there for a story or to be entertained. They are there to efficiently acquire functional usually practical information for a particular reason. I know this because I used to be a exclusive non-fiction reader. I read to be able to do stuff or solve problems or because it was required. I didn't read for pleasure or airy fairy bullshit. It was strictly a means to a end. You know why I started reading fiction?It wasn't because someone convinced me or because some particular book stood out as extra special that changed my mind. It was because my whole lifestyle changed and I had the time and mental energy for leisure. Reading fiction is a recreational luxury for people who have the spare time, mental energy, and attention surplus for it. If someone is deep in the grind of things they aren't going to waste their time on reading fiction as they have other shit to do.
>>24992575In time, they'll find it. I used to be a non-fiction-only hylic. For me, Pessoa was the real game changer, but everyone's different so I won't wave him around as some perfect solution.
>>24992587>they have other shit to do.lol. all they do is watch tv/tikok/youtube and play video games
>>24992614You are just being bad faith and dismissive.
>>24992591they won't
>>24992575It's better to just troll them into admitting non-fiction is fiction pretending to be real events. Guns, Germs, and Steel? None of it is true. Lots of lies by omission and outright falsehoods and self contradictions. Some political memoir? Ghost written propaganda. Fabricated conversations. Maybe even entirely fictional characters. Some history book? Biased. Not the way things really happened. The Painted Bird and like 100 other holocaust stories? Total make believe. Just poke holes in all their "non-fiction."
>>24992575I dunno. I think its because I took honors literature in high school and was force-fed tons of assignments on books ranging from the Illiad to Death Of A Salesman to satire like A Modest Proposal to epic poetry like Beowulf to eventually reviewing other forms of fiction like Monty Python where we had to analyze character development and dialogue and not to mention the tons of Shakespeare we had to read. I just had enough. The public school system ruined my love of literature. Now I just read philosophy and history mostly nowadays.
>>24992642i'm nta but i know a fair few people who would happily tell you all that themselves. op isn't being unreasonable.
>>24992575>muh empathygoddamn am I tired of this bullshit reason for reading. It's such a cliche at this point. Let me guess, you are a "voracious reader" as well?Fiction is great because some things cannot be seen directly. You can only see some things tracing around them.
>>24993358>"my teacher made me read stuff and try to analyze it, so now I hate fiction"brainlet cliche cope
>>24992614... which is of course, worse than reading fiction. Just think of all the time wasted on X, when you could've wasted in on Y!
Shadows on the wall.Imitations of pain.Less than dreams.
>>24993472just because you're tired of that doesn't mean that it's wrong.
>>24992575>How do I convince non-fictions reader to see the beauty in fictions? The “truth” of things, including historical events, and other facts, is routinely hidden in “fiction” literature. This is one of the reasons “the classics” of fiction are taught. The problem, is “the truth” is coded, and has yo be deciphered, sometimes requiring the reading of multiple texts, and sometimes with comparison to “non-fiction” books.
If you're talking about how literature teaches people to have empathy you're just as much of a subhuman as non-fiction only autists
>>24992575>I just don't know how to express these messagesSo I guess reading fiction hasnt helped you much, huh?
>>24994876why don't you fucking kill yourself you fucking faggot
>>24993473Sure, if you really think that. Of course you're the one spewing vomit on a Indonesian fly fishing forum, not me.
>>24992575Fiction is able to disseminate more complex ideas in a manner that is both artistic and enjoyable, and registers these complex concepts more concisely than a textbook via the narrative framing. There is a reason why Dostoyevsky is referred to as the first psychologist, and in his works alone you can trace all modern politics, spirituality and psychology to the character studies of his books.For scientific non-fiction, most pop-sci books are absolute garbage. I highly doubt the 'non-fiction' reader is engaging with actual textbooks and mathemtaical exercises, but rather some midwit TEDesque drivel which is yet anothet addition to the replication crisis.
>>24992575GK Chesterton wrote a lot about the necessity of fiction. Start there.
>>24994826>>24992575Basically thisJust tell them that many great works of fiction contain real life lessons . TBK is a great exampleAnd why do you insist to explain any of this to them?
>>24992575To enjoy fiction requires the qualia of experience it. Some people are incapable of that; they don't have an inner voice/mind's eye to experience the fiction pseudo-realistically; they can't partition their mind and suspend disbelief. To some, it'll always be mere words describing realities not our own: bad non-fiction.
>>24995752I think this is why film was so powerful as a medium over literature: multimedia offered the inner voice/mind's eye as a completed package to its audience.made it easier for those with limited qualia to get immersed and easier to suspend disbelief of their present sensibilities.(also a great brainwashing/programming tool)
>>24992575HmFor me it was for the acquisition of more varied vocabulary and phrases. But I occasionally find myself genuinely enjoying fiction.
>>24995756I think it is the opposite of that, film usually relies on its audience to provide the inner voice/mind's eye as inner monologue of characters is very unpopular in the medium and there is hardly any exposition either. In film so much more is left to the audience's individual interpretations rather than whatever is intended to be interpreted.
>>24992575Fiction is the actual application of ideas and facts into real life scenarios.Idk what your friend reads but the facts are just facts they don't examine the emotional reality that those facts create. Like if your friend is into space, only fiction can describe what traversing an unceasing darkness would be like emotionally on a person. Because its important to realise that we are sensory creatures and our lives are affected and dictated by how we feel. I never read fiction until somebody gave me Slaughterhouse five and only because it was a girl who I wanted to talk to so I read it to discuss it with her and I just swallowed the book whole I loved it so much. Because i'm interested in 20th century history and the character switches between all those key moments and describes what the mental and emotional realities of the war, of post war prosperity, of disillusionment with an increasingly commercialised america. Suddenly all those facts that I spent lots of time learning about played out in a real way that could be understand as if I lived through it myself.Just figure out what subjects he most likes them buy him a fiction book closest to that subject
>>24992575Fiction is just a long metaphor.
