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What book gets hailed as a must read masterpiece by real literature enthusiasts and normies alike but it's actually pretentious garbage that 'insists upon itself'
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>>24994027
Anything written by an American, on American soil.
Poe is the exception, as he's spiritually Old World.
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>>24994029
Poe is spiritually French and therefore absolutely is pretentious and his work does absolutely insist upon itself
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>>24994031
Yes, but notably not garbage.
>>24994027
At the moment, Blood Meridian.
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>>24994029
ah Poe, founding father of American literature, who spelt *death* in italic capitals followed by three exclamation marks, just to let you know he was making an important statement.
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>>24994038
>ah Poe, founding father of American literature, who spelt *death* in italic capitals followed by three exclamation marks
KEK, if you can't understand numerology then why the fuck are you trying to criticize Poe?
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Anything not written by an Anglo, a French, a German, an Italian or a Greek
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>>24994027
1984 is extremely heavy-handed and has a terrible plot which may as well be non-existent. It's less a story and more a didactic tour guide of a possible dystopian future.
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>>24994027
Infinite Reddit
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anything written before 1800 is antiquated garbage. not debatable btw
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>>24994027
Paradise Lost
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>>24994029
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>>24994146
numerology is a schizoid filter.
nobody with functional dopamine receptors falls for it.
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>>24995094
This.
I was deeply disappointed when I actually read it due to how hyped up and influential it is.
At it's best it's ok and at it's worst it's intolerablely boring and bloated.
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The Sorrows of Young Werther
Werther is just too goddamn faggy
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>>24995149
>At it's best it's ok and at it's worst it's intolerablely boring and bloated.
My experience exactly
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>>24995094
Go fuck yourself. That's the greatest thing ever written in English.
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>>24994029
American message board
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>>24995163
>in English
EFLs do not have soul
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>>24994027
Anything by RF Kuang
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Name of the Rose
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Yeah, it's Infinite Jest.
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>>24995512
But that's just a Sherlock Holmes homage set in an Abbey with amazingly vivid history. Does it really pretend to be something else? Adso is a rythmic reference to Watson and Baskerville is a surname referencing The Hound of Baskerville. It explicitly announces it's homage.
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>>24995269
>>24995110
Cope

The best works written by Americans were written while they lived elsewhere.
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>>24995467
Seething ESL. You're probably French
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>>24995975
It doesn't insist upon itself at all. I don't like Eco for his politics, but he was a good Medievalist and it's a good book
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>>24995975
People were big mad about untranslated latin and the framing of a big theological debate on the poverty of Christ, which is "unnecessarily" detailed for a Sherlock homage, and is rather the product of his medievalist background.
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Any author that tries to do a work directly or indirectly about WW2 seems to succumb to some sort of inverse midas touch of kitsch and poshlost. It's impossible to touch that topic without your words coming out as cliches and bogus profundities.
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>>24995507
Now this is straight ass. If "I am very smart" smuggies was a written page.
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>>24995997
Like think of The Tunnel or Sebald's entire oeuvre.
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>>24995982
Moron
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>>24995507
Yes it's insufferable, but maybe we're supposed to blame the character. Still, the author's voice is not made separate, which is a problem.
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>>24995507
>You have calculus?
This line is so shitty
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>>24994027
Shakespeare
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>>24995507
surface area is a meaningless construct
the arbitrary delineation between surface and not surface only exists in your mind, not in matter
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>>24994027
Blood Meridian
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i would say that if you're saying this about something that critics and the public alike regard as worthwhile it is most probable that you are insisting on yourself
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>>24994027
The Great Gatsby
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>>24995074
>>24995682
Came to post this. I respect DFW the man, I love his nonfiction, but IJ blows
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>>24995163
>sigh
Why's that anon
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>>24994027

ULYSSES.
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>>24997386
That book is filled with so much beauty, I would think it speaks for itself.

This is Satan rising up from the lake of fire and walking to the shore:
>He scarce had ceas't when the superiour Fiend
>Was moving toward the shoar; his ponderous shield
>Ethereal temper, massy, large and round,
>Behind him cast; the broad circumference
>Hung on his shoulders like the Moon...
>His Spear, to equal which the tallest Pine
>Hewn on Norwegian hills, to be the Mast
>Of some great Ammiral, were but a wand,
>He walkt with to support uneasie steps
>Over the burning Marle, not like those steps
>On Heavens Azure, and the torrid Clime
>Smote on him sore besides, vaulted with Fire;
>Nathless he so endur'd, till on the Beach
>Of that inflamed Sea, he stood and call'd
>His Legions...
How can you read this and not think to yourself "holy shit. That is some 10/10 writing." The imagery, the tone, the grandness of scale, his moonlike shield, and the regal anger that permeates this passage. It surpasses The Bible itself, which sounds clunky and mistranslated by comparison. I would argue this surpasses Shakespeare. And each book is just moment after moment like this, firing on all cylinders. Asking me to explain it to you is like asking me to explain a symphony. I could tell you about the time signature, the key, and the instruments, and the chord progressions, but just fucking listen to it and see the imagery that Milton gives you. How can you not be impressed?
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>>24994027
all of the /lit/ top 100
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>>24994027
Stoner
Any book/screenplay by Cormac McCarthy
2666
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"insists upon itself" absolutely one-shotted zoomer troons' brains, it completely destroyed you
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>>24996558
/thread
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>>24997713
I respect your passion, though I'm not moved by the passage



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