Books by Philosophers or theologians who frame sex as a sacred act that contributes to the growth of life?
That isn't philosophy. Sounds more like you're looking for poetry
>>24994943No, I'm actually looking for theologians or philosophy of religion which makes these claims.
>>24994940Your mom
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>>24994947"Theologies" IE religions that get compromised by states will offer some niceties about being fruitful and multiplying, but only after official sanctity of their permission (marriage). And they will get super nose about how you enjoy this stuff and put lots of restrictions on it.Very little is know of old timey fertility cults, but I think they used to "spill seed" in the fields for better harvests. So there might be books on the old pagan faiths.Old Greek philosophies had several schools of hedonism, but little is known about most. Aristippus' Cyrenaic variety was sex positive. Might want to study that.Not till the proto-fascist De Sade would you get much else. Lots of little places you have to hunt for.
>>24994947William's Blake Prophetic Prose touches on this.
Forgot to post sexy time priestess
>>24994947Why not look for mathematics making this claim while you're looking for philosophy?I guess Sexual Desire by Roger Scruton is the closest to a philosophy talking what you're talking about. Otherwise you'd have to go into complex theory of state and society of what sex is just one part
>>24994973Fuck off retard.
>>24994984>Roger Scrotum again
>>24995083>Provide OP with a reasonable list to start with>Scrotum fag gets pissyThat old tobacconist isn't worth reading.
>>24994940yulkachash on ig btwyw gooners
>>24995114khv copewomen that fit the bottom archetype make 110k at "Lazy Girl Jobs" aka bullshit email jobs. shit with job titles like Executive Junior Assistant Director of Marketing Analytics.
>>24995084I don't really care for him either but it's what you're asking for
>>24994973Aristotle was pretty clear he considered procreation to be the purpose of sex and that things like homosexuality were consequently immoral. Ironically he thought abortion was okay
>>24994940Is it just me or is her tattoo a little off-center. That'd drive me nuts while I plowed her.
>>24994940John Paul II, Theology of the Body.Cardinal Fernandez, On Mystical Passion.Also worth a look at are any commentaries on the Song of Solomon, especially, I'd suspect, from a medieval chivalric lense if you can find it. Maybe Bernard of Clairveux.
>>24995114Nobody picks their girlfriend for how smart she is. Every man on earth has accepted their girlfriend, wife, mother, and sisters are all complete retards.
>>24994984That's an odd field to look in. I guess I could do that.>>24994973>Very little is know of old timey fertility cults, but I think they used to "spill seed" in the fields for better harvests. So there might be books on the old pagan faiths.Such as?>>24995155Thanks, I have some Clairveux, ill look for the rest.
>>24995155Cont. I'm going to overshare. I was raised very catholic and inevitably became very confused about my sexuality, it shouldn't actually be inevitable, but most English speaking catholic cultures picked up jansenist and puritan mindsets rather than the more relaxed mediterranean attitude. Eventually I cracked and went to see a prostitute, I was extremely torn by it, she turned out to be the younger sister of an old highschool classmate, and as I saw her get out of the car outside the hotel I literally, not figuratively, heard the voice of my actual father say 'Your Bride'.The encounter was awkward but she was genuinely... nice. At least graceful and competent seeming. I lasted 3 seconds and almost blacked out in the bathroom after from the stress and internal conflict.Later I had a big falling out with a group of friends I've known since elementary school, I was drunk, it got to the point of tussling, and I ended up with my back to a medium sized statue of St. Therese, I'm the scuffle I fell against it and it wobbled almost falling over and I heard again the voice of my actual father saying 'Your Bride'.A bunch of other things happened. But I know what God is telling me. I've decided to be celibate and serve my two brides, one a prostitute, the emblem of the fallen world, and one a young nun, the emblem of a new heavenly world. My charisms are simple charity through my confirmation saint, St. Nicholas, administering justice through my baptismal saint. St. Michael, and doing it all with simple and childlike love through the doctrine and spiritual practise of St. Therese.
>>24995124>bullshit email jobsI guarantee you most people in this jobs are not making triple digits
>>24995180What I've found I have to do to work with sexuality to get it to work withy higher calling of attempting to emulate christlike love, is to consider my sexual instincts that arise as belonging to and being for a new life and a new humanity. And to treat your bride as Christ treats his bride, as St. Paul tells us. So my life is a preparation for my wedding night, which is my death. Like Jacob who laboured for Rachel 7 years and 7 again for her father to be able to be with her (both 7s mean infinite service) I want to do the same. The Song of Songs is also very important. There's bridal theology which usually emphasizes us as the feminine, God/Christ as the masculine, but I believe it's very simple to see how we also have a share in Christ's rewards if we share in his sufferings, and by emphasizing our identification with and as a little 'Christ', a disciple, we surely have some feminine counterpart. It's chivalric and I recommend the life, I'm sure if there is a God he's not unhappy with it, and it's fun.
>>24995181you have no friends that are women. once more, with feeling: khv cope :^)
>>24995180>>24995203meds.you won't see Heaven.
>>24995225What denomination are you ? We shouldn't sidetrack the entire thread, but I'll just say catholics by far have the best understanding of sexuality and sensuality.
>>24995203I have had periods of both promiscuity and celibacy. I can honestly say, that celibacy was actually not very good for me. I was more contemplative, but not actually closer to God. I became more alone, isolated, and as a result unhappy and colder to others. Fulfillment derived from being with a new person was very powerful. I would make more efforts to see my friends, meet new people, treat strangers better, I was healthier, and otherwise be more engaged with the world. I had more love for my fellow man, myself, the world, everything, while I was banging different chicks.This isn't to turn you away from your faith. I just feel the need to say that there isn't a single way of looking at or doing things.
>>24995233No I agree. People are different. I've found something which works but I have trouble even verbalizing. You're probably a more well adjusted person than I am, I've always lived a very strange interior way with probably deep personality disorders, if I agreed with the clinical methodology, which I don't. I think I'm just able to live a specific kind of life and I don't mind doing it.Also the myth of Pygmalion is important to me. Good luck anon. If you're OP, the Catholic recs I made are still relevant to thinking about this stuff and I'll pull up some more if you're interested.
>>24994940Dante
>>24995246I'm not OP. I've just been having trouble with how I can reconcile the fact that I genuinely am better off pursuing sexual experiences with different people with what Christian doctrine says about that. It's kept me out of church.
>>24994984What theory of state and society recs do you have?
>>24995255Do you have a long term relationship to compare it too ? Or is it between promiscuity and celibacy.
>>24995261I had a year long relationship as well.
>>24995255Just reject sentimentalism and you should be good about being able to actually make decisions from actual spiritual principles. Read Rene Guenon unironically.
>>24995274OP here, please don't recommend Guenon in my thread, thanks.
>>24995271Well I'd say you're supposed to start to learn how to have long term relationships, it seems like the next step. The seal of marriage for sexuality isn't arbitrary, it's so that you learn how to love someone who won't always be pleasing, in sickness and health and poverty. I'd say start working towards that.
>>24995257You'd probably want to start with The Philosophy of Right since that is the major influence on Scruton here. Thankfully it is much clearer than anything else Hegel wrote
>>24995278Also, people like the pharisees "will shut the gates of heaven on you and tie heavy burdens on you they don't lift a finger to help"Maybe a bit of an exaggeration in this case, but don't be put off by what the ideal is, just begin working on expressing your sexuality in a healthier more moral way and God will become very interested in you. In my opinion. Marriage or celibacy are the ideals, but we can work towards them. Don't deceive yourself though.
>>24995274>>24995276And don't get filtered like retard op.
>>24995285Remember, morals are for faggots.
>>24995284Sounds good. I finally got a paperback of PoS the other day.
The Book of Mormon
>>24995343More like The Book Of Moron lmao
>>24995124This is correct.>>24995181I have exactly such a job and my entire team is literally just one other dude and dozens of women, our pay scale runs from 80k to 150k I make 120k with 3 years of experience. I literally reply to emails, have meetings, do compliance and bureaucracy "work", have 1-2 hour lunch sessions and "team building exercises" then spend 1 hour after office hours "connecting" with colleagues just to show I put in the extra hours. Then I go home. I contribute absolutely 0 to the company bottom line and neither does my entire team.The reason I don't believe AI will automate jobs away is because most jobs are already bullshit jobs like mine that have 0 reason to exist. AI can't automate something that doesn't need to be done in the first place.
St. Clement of Alexandria – Pedagogue book 2 (especially chapters 9-10 if I remember correctly, which emphasize the inherent sacredness of sex, the "mystic act of nature") & Stromata book 3 (justifying the goodness of sex, against Gnosticism)
>>24995362And do you pay 6k burgerdollars a month in rent?
>>24995114Would pick bottom middle even if she were unemployed and slightly retarded
>>24994940>sacred act that contributes to the growth of life
>>24994940>The sacred world depends on limited acts of transgression. I t is the world of celebrations, sovereign rulers and God. This approach is a difficult one, in that sacred simultaneously has two contradictory meanings. Whatever is the subject of a prohibition is basically sacred. The taboo gives a negative definition of the sacred object and inspires us with awe on the religious plane. Carried to extremes that feeling becomes one of devotion and adoration. The gods who incarnate this sacred essence put fear into the hearts of those who reverence them, yet men do reverence them none the less. Men are swayed by two simultaneous emotions: they are driven away by terror and drawn by an awed fascination. Taboo and transgression reflect these two contradictory urges. The taboo would forbid the transgression but the fascination compels it. Taboos and the divine are opposed to each other in one sense only, for the sacred aspect of the taboo is what draws men towards it and transfigures the original interdiction. The often intertwined themes of mythology spring from these factors.
>>24995124>>24995181>>24995362https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs
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>>24995114>middle schoolers vs adult womenNo shit
>>24995255"Better off" how?
>>24994940"Man I want books praising chastity" and then anon proceeds to post a gawdy image with his post
>>24994940They are called "fertility cults".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_rite
>>24995089>>24995743Why are so many of you on this board just disgusting idiots trying to promote the most disgusting, perverse, idiotic perspectives imaginable? Is this what reading does to retards?
Eros and the mysteries of love, by Evola
>>24996353This
>>24996346I saw the bottom of the Abyss: it is Life.
>>24996346>Having kids is the most disgusting, perverse, idiotic thing everAre you are fucking foid, btw?Make a new thread about abortion rights, no need to whine about men enjoying a good fuck in the "kids are le good" thread.
>>24995712This is a wholesome image. Breasts have gone through phases of being covered up and then revealed. Victorians could show a lot of cleavage.
>>24996425Yet another complete illiterate posting on a literature board.
>>24996346Why is a monk hanging out in a thread like this?
>>24996519Perverting instincts aimed at serving life to attack life itself is the most retarded and evil thing you can possibly do. You are pure mindless evil with no interest in philosophy, theology, thinking or reading.Any philosophy or theology that isn't pro-life as a fundamental axiom is pro-cancer. Usually thinkers don't feel the need to explicitly state that they're not on the side of disease, that eating food is good for organisms or that procreation is sacred.It usually doesn't occur to people that they might be speaking to literal orcs.
>>24996532Just as I thought.You wrote an entire post just to namecall, instead of rephrasing your first, misinterpreted post.That's because you knew your post contained nothing of value.>Perverting instincts aimed at serving life to attack life itself is the most retarded and evil thing you can possibly doGeneralizations. A lot of fertility cults don't entail sacrifices.>Any philosophy or theology that isn't pro-life as a fundamental axiom is pro-cancerFertility cults literally do that. That's their central tenet.>Usually thinkers Weasel words.>don't feel the need to explicitly stateThen that's not the main goal of their discussion. OP wants a book exactly about that.>that they're not on the side of disease, that eating food is good for organisms or that procreation is sacred.The production of literature related to the Symposium of Plato in the Middle Age was immense.Picrel is one of them. Agrippa, Ficino, even Abelard himself had works specifically written about the philosophy of love.You are just an ignorant nigger.>It usually doesn't occur to people that they might be speaking to literal orcs.All bark no bite. Kys.
>>24995114Middle Caucasian STEMcel is pretty cute though. Gym membership and breast implants would save her.
>>24996512Leaven and bread.
>>24994940>>24994979>>24995084>>24995089Masturbation is not sex. Masturbation is not sacred. Masturbation does not contribute to the growth of life.
>>24996678Hm. I never said anything about masturbation.(I'm not the OP)Funny you should try to divert to the subject to masturbation.
>>24994940Fine, ill just say it. Can we get more of her?
>>24996560>instead of rephrasing your first, misinterpreted postIlliterate.>Generalizations. A lot of fertility cults don't entail sacrifices.Illiterate.Framing basic assumptions of all life as if that's specific to "fertility cults" is evil. It would only occur to orcs talking about strange foreign lands where people actually value life.
>>24995406This.>even if she were unemployed and slightly retarded>slightly retardedI already assumed that they were.
>>24994940Probably LaVeyan Satanism
>>24996834OP here, if I can find her. I called dibs on her though.
>>24996678Masturbation is more sacred than sex ever could be.
>>24994940More from me.Do Not Hold Me, Ascending the Ladder of LoveLink to download: https://www.communio-icr.com/articles/view/do-not-hold-me-ascending-the-ladder-of-loveIt's about the same themes as Dante, being a lover vs a beloved, male/female contrast, sexuality etc.And.Peter Kreeft, Is There Sex in Heavenhttps://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/sex-in-heaven.htmA provocative title, but it's about male female relationships as a reflection of divine unity from a Catholic perspective.
>>24994940There's a denomination called Conservative Laestadianism, the followers of which I know have bunch of kids. Maybe check what they read and believe in.
>>24994940>>24995118>underboob tattoo>russianinto the trash it goes
>>24994956Haaaaa goteeeem
>>24994940Hustler.
>>24997455Wow. That one is so much worse
>>24994940>Philosophers or theologians who frame sex as a sacred act that contributes to the growth of lifeits obvious, the Bible doesnt necessarily expressly say it, i havent read that part of aquinas
>>24994940humanae vitae?
>>24997455Gross. Incredible how many beautiful women become trashy as a deliberate fashion choice
>>24994943I mean it's objectively true that sex leads to more humans. It's not the only thing that leads to more humans though (e.g. better healthcare improving survival rate of existing births), and the term "sacred" is hardly objective.>>24994940Whatever you do OP, beware of people who naturalize the present conditions at the time. They mix up subjectivity and objectivity.
>>24995157Yet it's one of those things that you can't say anywhere but here; irl or in any other site you'd get jumped by every single male and female. I sometimes wonder if they are just pretending or they really bealieve otherwise.
>>24995114The healthy girls have higher biological G, potential for IQ. They just never have to use it except to gauge how ditzy and cute they should act in any given moment.
>>24994940The Bible(some caveats apply)
>>24994947Schopenhauer said sexual passion was the kernel of the will to live>It is the cause of war and the end of peace, the basis of what is serious and the aim of the jest, the inexhaustible source of wit, the key to all allusions, the meaning of all mysterious hints, of all unspoken offers and all stolen glances, the daily meditation of the young, and often also of the old, the hourly thought of the unchaste, and even against their will the constantly recurring imagination of the chaste, the ever ready material of a joke, just because the profoundest seriousness lies at its foundation. It is, however, the piquant element and the joke of life that the secret concern of all men is secretly pursued and ostensibly ignored as much as possible. But, in fact, we see it every moment seat itself, as the true and hereditary lord of the world, out of the fulness of its own strength, upon the ancestral throne ...
>>24997455Hot.>UnderboobThat's her ribs, anon.
>>24996870>Framing basic assumptions of all life as if that's specific to "fertility cults" is evil.Illiterate.I never said such a thing.Not only that, I presented an additional field that does so: philosophy of love.
>>24998235Its just to piss dad off. Women are antisocial by nature.
>>24998904As dishonest as is to be expected from pure fucking evil.
>>24999052>>that they're not on the side of disease, that eating food is good for organisms or that procreation is sacred.>The production of literature related to the Symposium of Plato in the Middle Age was immense.>Picrel is one of them. Agrippa, Ficino, even Abelard himself had works specifically written about the philosophy of love.Here, let me post the Wikipedia page for this branch of philosophy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_loveAt least OP will have a source to check.
>>24995220literally imagine the faggot behind this post. you have literally no testicles
>>24995712Thats not exactly what I said
>>24999237Thanks.
>>24998473They do. Its just "autistic" to say it out loud. God i hate social conventions...
>>24997455>t. never consensually touched a woman he's not related toI don't give a fuck, she's hot.
>>24996917Well it says 98 IQ in the image, my point, point is that even at 70 IQ and zero income she's still the best option in that image.
>>25000926One of them is Liv Tyler. Picrel might end up being your father in law
>>25000767I don't necessarily like underboob tats
>>25002617That's her ribs. Underboob is ON the boob. The underside of them. Hence the name.
>>24995180Why does every Catholic i encounter have perversions?
>>25002636I guess
>>24994940https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Responsibility
>That's her ribs. >Underboob is ON the boob. The underside of them. Hence the name.
>>25002666Stop it. You're gonna make me goon.
>>24996678Masturbation bros...not like this....
>>25002636He means 'under-boob', as in below the boob(s), obviously.
>>25003027yeah but that’s obviously misusing the word. it’s like you wouldn’t call the sideboob her underarm.
