Whoa, so this is the power of intellectual conservatism
>>24996619Vidal was making a move. Buckley had to get it on.
>>24996619buckley is one of the all time greatest kike slaves he was afraid his bosses would get mad if someone called him a nazi
>>24996619conservatism is a constructed ideology and a joke that expelled 99% of all traditionalism in order to enable liberalism and the feral civil rights movement
conserving what
>>24996627Even if Buckley was out, Gore would not have ever touched the man with a ten foot pole.
>>24996662the right to serve Israel as god intended!
>In 1957, Edgar Smith Jr. beat a 15-year-old girl to death after trying to rape her in New Jersey. In 1971, he walked free with the help of an elite legal team paid for by William F. Buckley Jr., who became convinced of his innocence. In 1976, Smith tried to rape and murder a woman in California.It was easier to write these sorts of things off as coincidence before the Epstein stuff.
>>24996662Our Christian (Catholic) Tory nation roots, of course!
>>24996647This. Spot fucking on.
>>24996647What almost nobody, even on the modern Right, is willing to admit is that the United States is fundamentally a left-wing country. It was formed in a rebellion against its rightful King. It rejects the Church, it has always rejected the Church. Its core ethos is absolute individual liberty, the enemy of Tradition.By any possible metric, the United States is historically left-wing, and has BEEN historically left-wing. In order to turn the United States into a right-wing country you'd have to remake it on a fundamental level. The Declaration would have to go, for example. The Constitution probably would, too.People who want a right-wing America need to accept that such a thing wouldn't BE America, any more. At least, not America as we have known it.
>>24996718>that such a thing wouldn't BE America, any more. At least, not America as we have known it.And that's a good thing. Unironically.
>>24996718>is fundamentally a left-wing countryit's a liberal country with traditionalist and leftist underclasses>It was formed in a rebellion against its rightful King. aristocrats and monarchs do not support traditional values and subservience towards a hereditary elite has nothing to do with traditional values.>By any possible metric, the United States is historically left-wing, and has BEEN historically left-wing.it has never been class conscious or truly revolutionary, which are the defining characteristics of leftism
>>24996619>Whoa, so this is the power of intellectual conservatism
>>24996619
>>24996720Liberalism can't have traditions. It undermines the very core conception of liberalism, which is to be totally free from those roots, perceiving them as constraints and methods of oppression.
>>24996647>A feral monarchistSevere autism, I see.
>>24996734The core of liberalism is the tradition of liberating yourself from the controllers of the world. It is a very old tradition, anon.Modern liberalism has been perverted into wanting the liberation of "markets" and unfettered capitalism, while lying profusely about citizenry rights to freedom. Like telling ones captive cows that they're free when put out to graze.
>>24996619If Buckley had embraced the label he'd have one-upped Vidal. He wasn't enough of a poster. He should have pulled "Hitler did some good things" here to spook that old queer.
>>24996718It was formed in rebellion against Parliament, not the King. In many ways it can be seen as an extension of the Cromwellian revolution. While rejecting the Catholic and on some level the Anglican churches, that was more-so out of fear of foreign influence than a genuine disdain for the more general institution of the church. The view you espouse is redcoat revisionism
>>24996750His show was on PBS.
>>24996734>Liberalism can't have traditions.liberalism does in fact have a liberal tradition, which is a tradition of collaborating with hereditary monarchs to destroy traditional morality and values. see benjamin constant>>24996740monarchy is directly opposed to traditional values. kings love faggots and feminism
>>24996747There is no tradition there. It's a form of social psychosis. Calling it a tradition is no different than a mental patient arguing that they have the true philosophy of life when everything they do is divorced from reality.Capitalism is the economic mode of liberalism, liberalism is cultural capitalism. Everything you have described is incorrect- those things are exactly what liberalism is.
>>24996762>which is a tradition of collaborating with hereditary monarchs to destroy traditional morality and valuesYou sound like a crazy person. Liberalism isn't an ideology which seeks to distinguish itself in the open. It survives by remaining amorphous. >monarchy is directly opposedI'm not sure where you're getting that idea. Monarchy is why culture was preserved since the time of Roman aristocrats up until the late medieval period ending in the pre-industrial gap of the 1700s. It's material conditions that required its suspension.
>>24996780>Liberalism isn't an ideology which seeks to distinguish itself in the open.it absolutely does. again, look up benjamin constant>Monarchy is why culture was preserved since the time of Roman aristocrats up until the late medieval period ending in the pre-industrial gap of the 1700s. it absolutely wasn't. culture was preserved by the muslims and reintroduced to the west by the church
>>24996747Liberalism (whether liberal-liberal or liberal-conservative) is the most compatible with business, commerce, trade.>>24996762See the Thai monarchy. It's pretty interesting because it strikes me as somewhat in the middle between the remaining waxwork constitutional monarchies of the West and the harder Arab monarchies (although I think they like to get up to boylive in private), it's a bit of a mix because they're kind of woke but will also lock your ass up for insulting them. Monarchy isn't so bad if you think about it.https://youtu.be/6pEq7QOaGfA
>>24996795It does not, and when we're building patterns, you're going to need more than one case study. You haven't even argued in favor of your case study or why its relevant. If you don't believe in it, how is anyone else? And how are we supposed to build a counter-pattern based on whatever narrative you have contrived? You're not making a compelling case. >culture was preserved by the muslims That's the most insane thing I've ever heard of and I pity you for falling for foreign supremacisms.
>>24996796>harder Arab monarchiesculture was transmitted by scholars. monarchs opposed and censored those scholars >>24996800>when we're building patterns, you're going to need more than one case study.then you're not a reasonable person if you're going to be hyper skeptical about everything. again, liberals are very clear that they support hereditary monarchy and have a codified ideology>That's the most insane thing I've ever heard of and I pity you for falling for foreign supremacisms.i am talking about the greeks who were reintroduced to the west by muslim scholars, not "monarchies" as you put it
>>24996619Left/right originated from French Revolution. It’s fake bullshit, both sides are lefties.
>>24996808>monarchs opposed and censored those scholarsThey were the sponsors of scribes, engineers, and scholars. Court engineers were a medieval staple. In fantasy it gets replaced by court mages, if you're wondering why the parallel exists.>you're not a reasonable person if you're going to be hyper skeptical about everythingI'm being modestly skeptical. You're just believing the wildest flights of fancy, conjured up by the minds of Arab supremacists and at the same time western nihilists. It's a bizarre worldview you have welded together. Very out of touch, somewhat passe these days.>liberals are very clearNo they're not? You sound insane. We just had a "no kings" rally a few months ago, in a country that was founded to not have a king. You're practically clinical.>i am talking about the greeks who were reintroduced to the west by muslim scholarsThe Muslims copied the Greeks, and what we have preserved for us came through the Greeks, not the Muslims that copied them. For example, Arab golden age mythers used to argue that everyone from Plato to Aurelius were preserved by Arabs, but the copiers were not Arabs but Persians and Egyptians and furthermore they did not preserve them independently at all. It carried directly from the Byzantines to the rest of Europe. Both Plato and Aurelius were preserved by Arethas, for example, not the Muslims.
>>24996718Can you be honest about any subject for even one fucking moment?It's like you work for some advertising agency paid to market the destruction of everything good, undermine all language and make sure no discussion ever gets anywhere.My theory is the PR and ad industry imprinted subconsciously through conditioning on to people like you at a young age and you think that's how people actually think. You can't help but see the world as consumers and it's your sacred duty to convince them to consume whatever garbage is popular in the moment using the same transparently dishonest methods PR companies use.
>>24996762Did you know that anarchism supports traditional values like no other ideology? It's true.>>24996764So you see I'm not defending or describing the the modern progressive or neoliberal imperialism, but you still refuse to think much.Do you not read much history? Well, don't speak about it like you know anything about it.
>>24996818i'm going to sleep. i'll reply when i wake up
>>24996619sometimes, you just gotta call a spade a 'spade', especially in hotbeds of disingenuity like 4chan
>>24996698daily reminder that if you have Neanderthal descendance, you are not white
>>24996718Now this is an unironic truthnuke.
>>24996734Advocating for and preserving freedoms is a cultural act and thus traditional.
>>24996811That is a tip of the iceberg take. You aren't saying anything meaningful here.
>>24996698>It was easier to write these sorts of things off as coincidence before the Epstein stuff.what do you mean
>>24996821>So you see I'm not defending or describing the the modern progressive or neoliberal imperialismOh, but you have. Unwittingly, but you clearly have.>>24996890Defending particular freedoms may be a tradition, but not the abstract notion of social and self- extrication.
>>24996718>the United States is fundamentally a left-wing countrylollmao even
>>24996948I don't really see how the inferiority of women and retards is a left-right issue
Are there real people out there that think the founding fathers or whatever would relate in any way to anything called the "left" today? The same "left" calling every classical liberal a nazi?
>>24996820cool arguments bro
Conservative thought originated with Edmund Burke who was appalled at the French revolution and the executions of the aristocracy.
it is excruciating seeing retards on this board try to discuss political science while mindlessly applying modern definitions and political views to the past and vice versa
>>24996969All you're telling me is you're too retarded to understand the case being made, possibly because of the exact reason described by the theory.
>>24996619But being a nazi is cool
>>24996647>I just love brown penis!>>24996718left in what sense? even monarchies have libertarian frameworks usually.
>>24996878what an odd thing to say
>>24996928Roman Republicanism predates Medieval Monarchies and were in fact, the first governments based on consent of the governed.
>>24997009I know right?
>>24997081yet so true
>>24996647>>24996706Buckley was a member of Yale Skull & Bones. That's all you need to know.
>>24996662>conserving whatthis "what has conservatism ever conserved" is such a performative, copycat, bullshit, means-nothing phrase. Its right up there with other so called "zingers", such as "let that sink in". Means literally nothing Just sounds all dramatic, that's all. Its the equivalent of calling someone a "hitler apologist" hen they are made to "admit" hitler was "a bad guy". the fact liberals think its such an pown, is what's funny
>>24996718>It rejects the Church, it has always rejected the Church. Its core ethos is absolute individual liberty, the enemy of Tradition.lie. its against STATE mandated religious authority.
>>24997479The only thing Hitler did wrong was being too soft
>>24996721>pro muslim>pro scienceheh
>>24997479Notice how he doesn't list anything being conserved
>>24996997Edmund Burke is my enemy, diddyblud thought that progress should "happen naturally" and is why conservacucks can't achieve anything to this day.
>>24997518>Notice how he doesn't list anything being conservednotice, how he keeps repeating his pamphlet suggested "zinger".
>>24997088The conception of the Roman republic is based on family dynasties, not American style "anyone with a pulse gets to vote". Even plebeians came from dynastic families, some of which went back to the time of the Etruscans.And no, Athens wasn't a western style democracy either. They used a lottery system instead of voting and functioned like a theocracy. All that is to say, liberalism has nothing to do with voting or democracy or republicanism. Liberalism would thrive in a techno-oligarchic state above all. Liberalism is an ideology, and has nothing to do with voting.
>>24996662Art.https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/64802/1/5-artworks-defaced-political-protest-just-stop-oil-mona-lisa-picasso-stonehenge
>>24997523I'll stop saying it when you can refute it, champ
>>24997009>political scienceProof that humanities shouldn't exist. On par with gender, LGBT, and colonial studies.The degree taken by the terminally retarded.
>>24997479Liberal hands typed this post
>>24996718you are a brown papist who will be forced into making spacecrafts for us when we win but you have one point. that being the the ideals of the french revolution was a mistake, but america is not france and either way that revolution led to napoleon who was a hero borne from despair but whatever that's not the point. the point is that america's liberalism, despite going ever lefter since it was born, was not such a big deal here until the world wars ruined everything. any serious american right wing thought in 2026 is NRx thought, and NRx synthesizes the past with the future which may be too complicated for your monkey brain, but this is the coming reality not pretending like feudalism still exists.
>>24997591it's the same thing with industrialism actually. libtards will have you believe it was terrible early on just because worker's rights didn't exist yet, but they never had to deal with the terror of industrialized warfare. these dual revolutionary seeds may have sprouted a poisoned tree, but this is solely due to politics of the time being shortsighted. or in other words, i'm not giving up antibiotics just because i despise social progressives, if you want to do so then go back to south america.
>>24997532Ancient slavery structures from feudalism conserved in capitalism of course
>>24996619As always, just read Strauss and Voegelin instead.
>>24997571Filtered lol
>>24997591You have to be 18 to use this website.
>>24997591>>24997604t. freemasonic jew loving neocon scum
>>24996818>They were the sponsors of scribes, engineers, and scholars. Court engineers were a medieval staple.only if they supported the interest of monarchy>You're just believing the wildest flights of fancy, conjured up by the minds of Arab supremacists and at the same time western nihilists. It's a bizarre worldview you have welded together. Very out of touch, somewhat passe these days.it's a fact that we rediscovered aristotle from arabic translations>No they're not? You sound insane. We just had a "no kings" rally a few months ago, in a country that was founded to not have a king.https://oll.libertyfund.org/publications/liberty-matters/2023-01-31-the-complicated-history-of-liberalism-and-monarchyagain, they explicitly argue and side with constitutional monarchy over democracy and republicanism>The Muslims copied the Greeks, and what we have preserved for us came through the Greeks, not the Muslims that copied them. same shit
>>24996647Post-war conservatism is nothing more than a defense for global empire at the expense of national identity. No matter what forms they take, all conservatives will be united under this banner. They’re stooges for their overlords, they’re apologists for the worst excesses of liberal democracy by framing them as the essence of their precious “Western civilization.” And we’re going to pay the price for continuing to give them power. They’ve dominated this decade so far and all we’re getting is gambling companies, financial fraud, infinite porn, OnlyFans prostitutes getting free visas, AI replacing authentic cultural expression, social media becoming a government psyop owned by technocrats like Musk and Ellison, foreign wars that will decay America’s geopolitical standing, etc. If you care about “the West” in any true sense you need to purge these fucking people.
>>24996718A king is only rightful when he fulfills his sacred role.
>*conspicuous audible sigh*Every time orange man goes and does something the board becomes unusable for two weeks while our perpetually L-taking leftists have their chimpout…
>>24997715Spot on
>>24996647I agree. The first neocon intellectuals in the US were """"""" former""""""" Trotskyists and were openly friendly with fags and niggers.
>>24996948>my favourite retard with neurosyphilis said something so it's true
>>24997053Ah, yes the famously conservative freemasonry. The staple of tradition preserving.
>>24996948Lenin’s statement doesn’t rebuff the fact that America is a capitalist bourgeois republic, the cousin to the leftist French radicals and their revolution. Only reactionarism is actually right wing in the modern world, with capitalism being a global radical leftist economic revolution.
>>24996619Intellectual conservatism is an oxymoron because conservatism is the designated loser in the left's dialectic of progress. Anybody on the "right" who still plays into that system is an idiot; the only answer is to exit from the dialectic entirely.
>>24996662Whatever the left believed a couple decades beforehand
>>24998208The answer is to attack the institutions themselves, or at least frustrate their operations.
>>24996718However
oh man...
>>24997591Based and paleoliberal pilled. Liberalism precedes the revolutionary left-right dialectic and is born of Faustian Anglo-Saxon culture. A liberalism free of universalism is both the past and the future of the Anglosphere.
>>24996718Was the Magna Carta "left wing"? Whatever "left-wing" means of course.
>>24998239>Whatever "left-wing" means of course.Nothing. "Right-wing" means nothing too. It's pointless buzzwords that are used to designate "people I like" and "people I don't like". If you unironically use these you are a retarded nigger.
>>24996718America is popularly sovereign. Left wing and right wing are meme words that have no particular content. Popular sovereignty is a system whereby authority is derived from the consent of the governed. In America, we enshrine the principle that the government must never act in an arbitrary and capricious manner in the due process clauses of the 5th and 14th amendments to the bill of rights. You want tradition? Due process was inherited from medieval England. It’s 800 years old as a concept, and was 600 years old when it was placed in the bill of rights.
>>24998487Very down-wing post
>>24996662Israel and billionaires, obviously.
>>24998668Israel is not the reason you've never touched a woman.
>>24998628>government must never act in an arbitrary and capricious manner
>>24998697
>>24996928>but you have. UnwittinglyNo. I took a moment to define both for you to better understand. You didn't get it because you are a witless piece of driftwood.
>>24998773>woah my gosh, dooder, you are like so blind to the wicked ways of this cruel world XDDDthis is probably the worst genre of 4chan posts
>>24997571>humanities shouldn't exist>while posting on a humanities boardBehead all conservacucks. Absolutely servile retards.
>>24998628Sovereignty cannot be bound, so if the people can be bound by the state (or by the media or the academic institutions), they are not the sovereign.
>>24996900Then maybe you should say something meaningful about the iceberg because this entire thread is muh left muh right
>>24998628>America is popularly sovereign>Popular sovereignty is a system whereby authority is derived from the consent of the governed.I'm not consenting to taxes
>>24998778this is the fault of feminism and industrializing without having a proper reactionary society that balances both social mores and technology in harmony, not israel. the same thing happened to the japs after ww2. globalist jews merely exploit this weakness in the hearts of women, because that's part of what helps them rig our democracy. statistically speaking women become more conservative when they're married.https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2022/11/16/race-gender-and-political-alignment-useful-us-voter-demographic-statistics-from-2016-to-2022/
This thread is full of people who only care about gratifying their base and meaningless hedonistic desires for pleasure, freedom, and comfort.
>>24999082then leave and go to another countryyour assent to the social contract is implied by conduct>>24998970>so if the people can be bound by the state individuals can be bound by the state acting as agent for the will of the public. This arrangement may deprive individual people of sovereignty, but not the whole public.
>>24997715True. But you also need to purge delusional retards like yourself and pretty much everyone who, being a coward, would never consent to living a miserable existence devoid of pleasure.
>>24997600>containment majors/programsThey don't really contain much unless you disenfranchise these people, which you wouldn't do because you are a liberal or something.
>>24998778>>24999131oh that being said, jews were at the forefront of 60s feminism which was a massive psyop to enslave women to corporations. but that never would've been an idea without the early seeds of feminism, which itself never would've inspired women getting the right to vote. ironically, it all goes roots back from the original slow dismantlement of patriarchal society.
To the idiots: our current dominant social formation in the west is modern mass democracy, characterized by increasing demands for material equality and more recognition+participation on behalf of increasingly minor and convoluted identity groups. Workers are now the primary consumers and are to be identified as nothing more than that, not harbingers of some great reconciliation (hedonistic abundance). This is so because no one genuinely believes in metaphysics anymore and the default mode of thought is vicious nihilism.
>>24998228Just make it loop nicer and add a >4chan and this would make a perfect top banner
>>24996718>Its core ethos is absolute individual liberty, the enemy of Tradition.If the tradcons were this mask-off more often people would think twice of promoting this stupid ideology. Keep doing what you're doing.
>>24997479There is only one (1) thing Conservatism ever could have conserved, and that is genetic racial integrity because everything flows or falls from that. Traditions without eugenics = India.
>>24998697Never understood people who have this kind of reaction to someone being anti-Israel. Are you just a jew?
>>24996718TRVKE
>>24999448>Needing to askNGMI
>>24999448israel has become to right-wingers (and left-wingers) what white people are to left-wingers. Just a convenient boogeyman to blame everything on. Do jews and israel suck ass? Yeah. Do they do lots of shitty stuff? Yeah, all the time. But it's the only thing anyone on this fucking website ever talks about and it makes me want to strangle you.
>>24996718what does individual liberty have to do with forcing other people to bend over backwards for performative niceties under the false premise that not doing so might hurt someone's fee fees and being selective towards who the standards are applied to?
>>24999336eugenics has was always been associated with progressivism in amerikkka thougheverbeit
>>24999470>not screaming the n-word at the top of your lungs is a "performative nicety"this fucking website, man
>>24996619>homo>'transatlantic' faux posh accent>CIA (OSS)British Agent. Quite literally Fake & Gay. American politics has always been fraught and lacking 'decorum'.
>>24996718>fundamentally a left-wing country. It was formed in a rebellion against its rightful King.Exhausted every legal redress to reassert rights of free Englishmen abroad. Went to war to secure them, with yeomen farmers led by landed and learned aristocrats. 1619 Project tier BUT WHAT IF SLAVERY WAS ENDED A WHOLE 3 DECADES MORE SOONER!? is the most slavish faggot revisionism imaginable. If Charles was his own man and not hostage to literal Praetorians of City of London, he or his mother would have dissolved Parliament for facilitating the invasion and rape of their subjects by the dregs of the Near East.
>>24999512>making up a guy to get mad atwhy do leftoids do this?he never said he wanted to do that
>>24999088I've watched a few episodes from the 70s. I'd like it when he'd have Harrison Salisbury on or some old hunchbacked Jewish ex-OGPU agent from the 1930s who defected after Stalin sent her to do a 10-year-stint in a Siberian labor camp. Real shit.
>>24999592They were a bunch of bougie faggots who wanted to keep their wealth they made from trade and land speculation.
>>24996780The monarchy in England castrated the house of lords in the 20th Century and Louis XVI tried to castrate parlement so he could pass through woketard reforms for the peasants against the nobility and force the Church to give away a lot of its money to the plebeians
>>24999458>what white people are to left-wingersI don't think you have a grasp of the situation. Too much twitter or something.
>>24999747Like postmodern neomarxist propagandists like to point out language is shaped by use not dictionaries."Left" means nothing except seething hate of white people.
>>24998697>>24999458I'm not using Israel as a "convenient boogeyman to blame everything on". You're reading way more into this than I put there. I wasn't blaming Israel for everything or making some grand theory; I simply answered a question about what conservatism tends to defend. Something that should be obvious to anyone with eyes.
>>24999607Based.
>>24999904>"Left" means nothing except seething hate of white people.To morons. To people who want any kind of conversation shutdown immediately. "You're on the left? You're jewish, trans, marxist, pedophile, blue haired" etc. Even if you hear a leftist say they hate Marx, hate zionism, think the trans-mania has gone on too far, pro farmers and trad wives etc.The split really is all about compassion. And if all lefties are atheists why are they the standard bearers of Jesus' love and not the rightwing and their tendency to Christianity? (I donno. sounding off)
>>25001102I'm an actual liberal, socialist even and gave the "left" the benefit of the doubt for 20 years. Every time you prove you're far worse than any "right wing" parody of you.>why are they the standard bearers of Jesus' loveYou're demonstrating that you're not. You don't think, not a hint of self-awareness, so stupid and easily manipulated that you're effectively pure evil.
>>25001123>I'm an actual liberal, socialist evenNo you're not
>>25001123You're a leftist that's been castrated by /pol/ because you've internalized their framing of your own ideology.
>>24997532>I'll stop saying it when you can refute it, champpropogandic pilpul. I could keep propogandizing, that "you can't prove god doesn't exist!" (you cant) and you could propagandize "you can;t prove god exists!" Neither one is a real argument, and is simply performative pilpul. pilpul, as in you repeat a non-argument (propaganda) then claim "victory". What utter shit. I just *love* the left's *only* tactic now. Anything Trump does, come out against it. I mean this cold be fun. Trump coes out and says "we shouldn;t kill cats". Immediately, the left is *forced* to propagandize killing innocent kitties. Its so ridiculous of a "strategy", it simply betrays the lack of real anything behind the left's agenda. Which is nothing save for bribing votes from illegal immigrants because people are starting to see through your bullshit. You're pathetic.
>people given a platform in media are useless at bestWow, who couldve thought>>24996663They both touched ten foot poles, however
>>24996878Where is the Neander Valley, /pol/ browncel? Where were neanderthals a larger proportion of the population?
>>24999131>a proper reactionary societyAny secular framework on which such a society is based can be exploited to argue in favor of feminism.The "inalienable rights of men" naturally begs the question as to why such rights should not be extended to women.This is why modern reactionaries are system-destroyers instead of system-builders. The concept of equality, rule of law, or rights ultimately harms their goal of domination.
>>25001259>modern reactionariesThis word literally doesn't mean anything. Everyone is reacting to something. It just comes off like you're dogwhistling and tarnishes your credibility.
>>25001188>>25001222Demonstrating the point. You can't even pretend to think, everything you say is motivated by deranged fantasies that remarkably often are expressed as seething against things like Christianity, whites etc.Every time you try to prove the narratives about you wrong you reinforce them because there's not a hint of actual thought behind anything you retards say or do.The more authoritarian someone identifying as a "leftist" is the less authoritarian he will claim to be.Every single retard deranged enough to identify with what the "left" has been doing and saying is like a parody of pure, mindless evil. If I had to make up a character that's more evil and anti-human I couldn't.
>>25001377Faggots like you will be the first against the wall.
>>25001383You're so reliably braindead that I can't assume this is a joke. You retards are so fucked in the head that it's now more likely that you sincerely meant this. Dumber than any parody.
>>24996718That really depends on your definition of left and right. It could very easily be argued both the church and monarchy were the day's equivalent of globalists, attacking the people for the sake of enriching a foreign elite. I should not need to remind you of things like the harrying of the north and the role it played in defining the government as the Norman yoke, which in turn was an inspiration for the yeomen seeking to turn the US into an actual anglo-saxon country.Your argument is very similar to that of conservacucks, who want to conserve the reigning structure for the sake of it with no regard to whether it serves the people. I would argue it is not left wing to put your people before the needs of a foreign elite fleecing you, but then again at some point I stopped caring about those labels. A lot of things can be boiled down to whether they are for or against the people (and when I say "the people" I mean a specific ethnicity, not a random amalgamation of malcontents as a marxist might)
>>24996720He's just echoing the Bible's narrative of shut up and obey the king. It is of course no surprise that a christcuck values that over the people, after all their protocommie sect was always universalist.
>>25001377>what the "left" has been doingWhich is what exactly?
>>25001377The entire basis for your series of posts is a deranged fantasy that the left is about hating whites or Christianity or some such. All your accusations are confessions. It's doubly stupid because you identify as a liberal socialist. You should be able to say "well I don't hate these things, so there's an aspect of leftism which isn't anti-white". But you've let /pol/ or the right reframe the way you see yourself and politics in general.Proof of this is how you cast the opposition in the most negative light possible, which is characteristic of right-wing manchildren who think they're in a holy battle against demons. Please just grow the fuck up.
>>24997526The US was not founded with universal suffrage, retard
>socialism is correct because someone made me butthurt one time
>>24996619>Oversocialized homosexual sits there smugly insulting you to your face because he knows you're stuck in the legal cuck cageThis is him weaponizing his social power, like a woman, because it's what he is good at. There is no way for an honest straight man to be snarkier and nastier than a queer in this situation. Just like with women, the correct response is to use your advantage in physical power and beat him to the point of disfigurement
>>25001430Evil.>>25001436>so there's an aspect of leftism which isn't anti-whiteYou use propaganda to condition new meanings for words, your propagandists proudly exclaim their successes in this field. When the new definition is used in a negative context suddenly it always meant what it did before you subverted the meaning. You can't be honest about anything for even a moment, any "discussion" with any of you retards is just you subverting any chance of anyone understanding anything about anything and it seems your internal monologue serves a similar purpose for your own thoughts, making sure nothing ever gets understood.>you've let /pol/ or the right reframe*You* did that you fucking retard, long before pol even existed. You're doing it right now. Every reply is the same braindead propaganda shit, even while trying to deny being anti-white and anti-Christian the seething about those subjects bleeds through as a reminder that you're never honest, you don't grasp what that means.What happens every single time retards like you are given even the slightest benefit of doubt you exploit it to undermine discussion and human life in generael. There is no "discussion" to be had about any subject. If you call yourself evil/left you're fucking evil. Absolutely refusing to participate in your propaganda framing of everything is the fundamental basis, the only possible path for any actual discussion or progress to happen.
>>25001439This supports those arguments. You are arguing in favor of the post you're calling retarded.
>>25001475It's not propagandistic because it disagrees with your viewpoint. New understandings of old concepts come to light because we're continually engaged in philosophy and a cultural dialogue. The right wants to shut down any conversation like this and they reflexively default to simplistic definitions in order to preclude complex discussions. That's not something you want to be part of. Sometimes leftist discourse produces radical results you might disagree with, but the existence of the discourse itself is invaluable. I don't personally buy into the "decolonization" of culture for example, but I'm glad that there's an ecosystem in which those views can be put forward.>You can't be honest about anything for even a momentWhen we're honest, you get angry at us for being "subversive" or "undermining discussion". The honest truth is that leftists don't believe in many of the assumed starting points held by right-wing people and we're willing to rigorously interrogate them. If that looks subversive to you then it's because you've never actually questioned the foundation of your own beliefs which is the entire point of philosophy. >There is no "discussion" to be had about any subjectWhy not? We should discuss every subject. There should be no sacred cows.
>>25001512>It's not propagandistic because it disagrees with your viewpoint.It's propaganda because it's fucking propaganda shoved in your childlike mind by propagandists who are proud of it. You're a dishonest liar because you lie dishonestly.>The right wants to shut down any conversation You have never had a conversation in your life. Every single person, group and movement that tried to shut down conversations I've been involved in for the last 20 years identified as "left".It doesn't even occur to you to sincerely consider anything I've said, all the while you pretend you're some open minded free thinker just trying to have a discussion, again subverting the meaning of every concept that comes out of your subhuman mouth.>Why not?You're completely, fundamentally incapable of it and every time anyone tries to discuss anything with you all you can do is demonstrate that fact.
>>24996718>it has always rejected the Church
>>25001123I'm the anon you addressed here.A "liberal socialist" are you? Like a progressive? New Deal democrat like? You like LaRouche maybe? What did this group of "Left" do 20 years ago that pissed you off? How were they worse than the "right wing"? Genuinely curious, but let me just say, no ideology is all that monolithic. I doubt I stand for things that pissed you off, but I'm not sure.>>25001236Buckley? touched poles? And come one. Ten inch perhaps.
>>25001718>It's propaganda because it's fucking propagandaThis right here is shutting down discussion. You don't want to discuss what constitutes propaganda but you do want to leverage all the force of the term without justification. Your vocabulary is laden with terms like this: propaganda, evil, subhuman, subverting. It's just meaningless slop. It only passes for discourse with people who already agree with you. The moment you're asked a clarifying question, you fall apart. You can't explain anything because the moment you try to do so, it becomes clear that you consider literally every act by a left-wing person to be subversive and anything we say to be propagandistic. Your language is structured to maximally demonize people who disagree with you which keeps you inside a cultish bubble. >It doesn't even occur to you to sincerely consider anything I've saidI did consider what you said. Then I thought "well, I'm a leftist and I don't hate white people", so I concluded that your characterization of us was incorrect. The problem is that you aren't explaining how it is you came to believe what you do. You aren't making arguments. You're obsessed with outlining some kind of fantastical leftist typology which is only ever done to avoid engaging with leftist concepts. As though, if you can convince yourself that leftists are innately bad people, that will somehow dismantle the legitimacy of left-wing ideas which you have already admitted to believing in.>You're completely, fundamentally incapable of it I'm starting to realize this is an ideologically necessary point for you and not something you can prove. It's the founding principle of your worldview, not something you have come to through reason.
>>25001939Not quoted but >well, I'm a leftist and I don't hate white peopleThat makes you largely unique among other self-proclaimed leftists in 2026 but something tells me you're fine with them speaking up for disenfranchising whiteys through DEI policies, 'positive' discrimination, white privilege attacks that kind of thing.
>>25001259>inalienable rights of menconfusion between inalienable rights and rights of englishmen. Christianity was banned in school in the mid 20th century but people not knowing what the types of rights are evidently goes back through the history of the republic
>>25001259but domination isn't my goal. if anything, i want to stop social progressives from dominating; and that's not their goals either, not anymore at least. if you want to live in some feminist commune in NRx america, so long as you don't agitate against the government, then go ahead. but when you come back do know that no one's going to marry a prostitute, either become a nun or go back the streets.
>>25002154im also on the left (even though right wing aesthetics might be more appealing on the surface) and i have never met anyone who hates white people>whiteys through DEI policies, 'positive' discrimination, white privilege attacks that kind of thing.is the right still stuck in 2013?
>>25001259also proper reaction is not and will never be larping like it's the 18th century. go read actual neoreactionary theory and tell me who's really building and destroying here.
>>25002446>that no one's going to marry a prostituteThere will ALWAYS be a simp who will.
>>25002471not if you bring back patriarchy to the west and right both sexes wrongs. that's what all women want anyway, feminism is just a civilizational shit test and we failed it.
>>25002481am i on a 2015 manosphere forum? how does this kind of wimp ass rhetoric have any currency in AD 2026? this is like old commies talking about the revolution
>>25002555it's not mere rhetoric, simply the reality of the situation. we haven't progressed past our basic human needs. if you're asking "okay well how do you do it", honestly? currently you can't because USG will sue you if you have a non-gay marriage, but either way it would require local communities not governments.
>>25002564>USG will sue you if you have a non-gay marriageSource?
>>25002579https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_in_the_United_States
>>25002460>is the right still stuck in 2013?DEI didn't start being dismantled until this year when Trump stopped allowing companies engaging in it to get federal contracts. (because it's grossly illegal and breaches the civil rights act)>inb4 DEI doesn't mean what you think it meansEvery major companies sustainability report since like 2014 have had a section on how they're going about "diversifying the workforce" by preventing more whites from being employed by, among other things, tying management KPIs to how diverse the people under them are. (or in other words "we're not telling you to illegally discriminate against whites, but if you hire any you're actively never getting promoted or any year-end bonuses")Same with university affirmative action that largely meant anyone white or asian's score was counted lower than their actual achievements by pumping up other groups.
>>25002460>you can't complain about systemic discrimination against you based on immutable characteristics, it's current yearConvincing.
>>25001930>>25001939You're not worth spitting on you subhuman fucking demons.
>>25004137You are mistaken. I am a fully human person. Get well soon.
Buckley set the stage for the neocon takeover by unpersoning any actual conservative who didn't kiss Jewish/Israeli ass 24/7.>>25001930>Buckley? touched poles? >And come one. Ten inch perhaps.This. He was definitely a closet fag.
>>25002154It only makes me unique if your experience of leftism is a highly curated /pol/ feed of twitter reposts which is how leftism is depicted on this site. Leftists in mainstream politics typically run on concerns to do with the cost of living, housing, and the growing divide between rich and poor. Core leftist texts, whether from Marx or anarchists, are more to do with social reorganization along lines that are less intrinsically exploitative. This racial reframing is frequently employed to decenter the matter of extreme material inequality which disenfranchises you far more effectively than anything else. >>25002785It's worth remembering that Amazon found workplace diversification impedes unionization. These policies are both a form of advertising and a means of disempowering workers. The conclusion should be to weaken corporations and to empower the ability of the working class to demand better treatment. Leftist politicians do this, like Sanders when he pursued the unionization of Amazon warehouses.The right simply doesn't care about this and will exchange the empowerment of a technocratic elite above them so long as that elite pays them lip service on racial issues. Except even said lip service is barely there, given how Vivek and Musk openly mocked the white working class on twitter which everyone seems to have forgotten. Also, heaps of leftists are hostile to capitalism and the very existence of corporations. To attribute their actions to left-wing politics, simply because they pass some racial policy, is bizarre. It's like saying that Soviet Union was right-wing because Stalin banned gay marriage. It only makes sense if you assume the foundation of right-wing politics is opposition to gay marriage.
>>24996720>aristocrats and monarchs do not support traditional values and subservience towards a hereditary elite has nothing to do with traditional values.Culture spawns with the aristocracy and from them slowly disseminates downwards. It is powerful men who influence others to behave a certain way that last longer than their lives, forming rituals that symbolize them or something related to them. As their names are forgotten they become ornaments of their culture. Therefore they are incredibly sensitive to social faux pas and so provide a rigid form, both to justify themselves and to honor their ancestors. The aristocratic ideal of honor is self-preservation of themselves and what matters to them, and the nation they inhabit must survive for their lives to matter. Arts flourish during aristocracies as they try to outdo each other.
>>25004552You people are pathetic. Can you possibly suck Aristo cock harder?
>>25004560Socrates critiqued equally the Thirty Tyrants and the Democrats, yet it was the democrats that sentenced him to death.
>>25004552>Culture spawns with the aristocracy and from them slowly disseminates downwards.lol no, they're just a bunch of inbred retarded jocks who think anyone who isn't a toff is subhumant. lives in the UK
>>25004414>Leftists in mainstream politics typically run on concerns to do with the cost of living, housing, and the growing divide between rich and poor.lmao no, they largely run on minority grievance politics and will actively call running on economic issues "brocialism" or "white supremacy" depending on their flavor of leftist. The kind you speak of largely doesn't exist outside of the third-world, and they're only too happy to support ethnic chauvinist welfare for themselves when they're in the first. (it's practically a stereotype that the people who speak loudest of "solidarity" while stealing from europeans act as supposed leftists here while they support ethnic nationalist socialism, or fascism, back in their home countries)
>>25004414the foundation of modern leftism that is actually meaningful in today's politics are anti-white hatred. if you're not that, then you're probably advocating for something like the chinese system instead. economics alone being the foundation is painfully outdated, yes they matter a lot and i agree the system the state of economics in the west is fundamentally corrupt in a lot of ways, but if you run on in politics that like sanders did you'll have to sell out and say white people are inherently evil even if they're poor.>It's worth remembering that Amazon found workplace diversification impedes unionization. These policies are both a form of advertising and a means of disempowering workers.what do you think this implies for an entire country? if we've got groups fighting each other over which race gets the most spoils, then you'll never be able to do socialism in the west. you personally may be able to ignore the race of others, i can as well believe it or not, but on a group level this is simply not possible due to hard limits of human biology.
>>25004578Sorry, this is indeed a topic where definitions of words begin to overlap severely. The West has not had aristocrats since the French Revolution and especially not since the rise of the moneyed classes in the 1800s. Contemporary "aristocrats" are, spiritually, no different than the yeoman.>>25004587>the foundation of modern leftism that is actually meaningful in today's politics are anti-white hatred1000000% correct. I would go further and say that leftism is an ideology of resentment, and the form of resentment depends on the culture is is reared in. This is why Jews are disproportionately communists. Russia became communist because it was tired of the West's shadow having been cast over it since Peter the Great. The materialist ideology operates at the behest of spirit.
>>25004414>It's worth remembering that Amazon found workplace diversification impedes unionization. It's notable in context, but this isn't that context.It's the context of the policy actual leftists have been pushing becoming reality and turning out to be racial discrimination against whites, all while speaking out against it was met with creative "misunderstanding" and active hostility.>and a means of disempowering workers.White workers. If you quibble about the group being hurt, to the benefit of another group, you cannot be seriously considered a materialist. Regardless if you profess to support something else.>The conclusion should be to weaken corporations and to empower the ability of the working class to demand better treatment. Or vote Trump and get it banned within a year, since it was already extremely, extremely illegal. Just unenforced because by and large leftists supported it wholeheartedly.>The right simply doesn't care about thisAgain. One year of Trump. No longer being allowed. Not even in businesses that work with the US like british and euro companies that ignored their own laws about it.>Except even said lip service is barely thereAgain. Illegal. Enforced. Actual change.That you can't square that means you're not a serious socialist of any kind.>Also, heaps of leftists are hostile to capitalism By which they mean white working class people being allowed to own anything at all. Every lickspittle who talks of capitalism now are silver spoon strivers to a man.>To attribute their actions to left-wing politicsIs self-evident. No one but leftists and social liberals were championing DEI. Because it is by every measure as grossly illegal as openly stating "No Blacks. No Women. No Jews." on your applications.
"Actual leftists" don't matter as their movement has left them behind years ago.
>>25004621like how lenin persecuted the mensheviks, so too will the gay race communists persecute the orthodox marxists. if the bad guys win, they'll be the first ones sent to a labor camp for revisionism, unless of course they sell out their own even more sinful kin.
>>25004608Progressivism and american “socialism” share one core trait: they are explicitly anti-white forces. They push policies that actively discourage white prosperity, suppress white representation, and erode white communities in their own historic homelands. All the talk of alternative economic systems is a smokescreen because these movements aren’t truly socialist. Their real foundation is a sustained crusade against white people, and everything else is just ideological cover. Mamdani’s rise to mayor is merely a symptom of legal demographic replacement, a process that gutless, cocksucking conservatives like Ronald Reagan enthusiastically enabled. Progressivism is already riddled with contradictions, but what it will ultimately produce is a class of race hustlers who weaponize “socialism” to funnel wealth and power to ethnic groups as a form of ‘justice’ not an assimilated common good.There is nothing revolutionary about bloated government programs and targeted gibs for non-whites. They deliver only fraud, corruption, and a direct insult to working people, especially whites, who can’t afford to raise families or secure loans despite their labor. White progressives have been completely sidelined; they are eternal cucks with no numbers left, locked out of the very movements they helped create.
>>25004643wait no, labor camps are much too heteronormative fascistcoded for today's leftists. instead you'll be sent to a reeducation center run by an obese lesbian biracial negress commissar. relax, after her longwinded rant about how you're part of an inherently sinful race, you can easily make up for your injustices by becoming a transvestite and joining the party.
>>25004621"Left" as a label only signifies opposition to whatever is "right". It's not an ideology, just a brand. "Liberalism" is an appeal to freedom, it has an actual history which can be pointed to, core ideas that you can't abandon and still call yourself a liberal. Nobody on the "left" is a liberal.
>>25004656I could easily get along with the left on a couple of issues like healthcare, unions, and even some environmental ones. I always liked the Bernie bros, buts it's starting to become evident that the modern "left" only has third-world immigration as a consistent platform. Their hatred for whites comes before their desire for healthcare. They will never concede ground on the former. Do we need to bust out the “It’s ok to be white” T-shirts and conduct this experiment again?Like, it’s wild how much of a strategic blunder the trans stuff was for the left. Every new demand heaped up the repulsion normal people felt. It's impossible to normalize trans unless you outright make it illegal to criticize them, which they want. It's impossible because it's so obviously untrue; they're gross degenerates, and trans people are the least sympathetic and sane people imaginable, and a side effect of opening the doors to predators and perverts of every variety as well. If you want to argue it’s subversion, but the left did the donkey work anyway in keeping them. At the end of the day, ‘radical’ leftism is just battered donkeys that do the disgusting work of encouraging the most dysfunctional social and cultural ideas for and getting themselves killed to defend somalia’s form ICE in order to win a talking point for other special interest groups. That’s all they are: degenerate donkeys who get themselves killed because of their misplace compassion.Appeal ONLY to the Bernie bros and Joe Rogans of the world, fuck all these leftist higher-ups and their tranny faggots and the Cucksertives and their ZOG handlers. That's the closest you'll get to a coalition between the right and left. Get one side to stop open borders and anti-White policies and the other to give up ma boomer markets and the outdated Reagan shit, and you'll have a compelling party that focuses on the real issues, both cultural and material.
>>25004668what does freedom mean, exactly? it has the same problems as leftism in that it too, is so easy to go ever lefter. late 18th century american liberalism is a far cry from today's liberalism. it worked well back then because of christianity, a limited vote, and, perhaps most importantly, the lack of mass media to control the thoughts of others. you cannot have a liberal government in any nation even if all of the west's other problems were fixed in a world where the government and mass media interact with each other in a decentralized manner to dominate the average person. it's the very antithesis of liberalism, it merely feigns neutrality despite clearly having its own biases, making it fundamentally impossible to exist in the 21st century.
>>24996718There was no left or right just Classical Liberalism and Republicanism. Republicans are supposed to have Roman ideals and Democrats are taking Liberalism and Enlightenment principles. That is what the confusion is.Left is now basically Corporatists and Socialists and Right are Corporatists too which is where the Horseshoe bullshit is happening and Fascism which is also Collectivists.The reason why we hate each other so much isn't because we are super opposite its because we are honestly too similar and trying to seem different. National Socialism is a fight against Conservative Corporatism and Conservative Fascism just is trying to unite liberals with them which is why they are both incredibly antisemitic. The most annoying thing someone can say is "wow I agree with you!" and then fight you more or sound like you. We have too many people who basically agree.
>>25004685>boomer markets and the outdated Reagan shitEverything boomers and Reagan said about markets is accurate. Free trade translates into more wealth for everyone. All appeals to mitigating poverty by anti-Reagan types are deranged since the wealth, the excess of food and luxuries is exactly the one fucking positive thing about those policies.I just don't care that much about wealth or the useless chinese garbage it buys. I don't really give a shit if some third world commie starves because he didn't embrace the glorious market. It's not my problem and if I was that commie nigger I wouldn't want some foreigner to try to make it his problem. The best thing I can do for him is respect whatever semblance of sovereignty he has as a citizen of his own country.>>25004712>what does freedom mean, exactly?Individual sovereignty. A simple test to see if you're free is if you have the option to be a subsistence farmer on your own sovereign land. Where I live that would get me jailed for tax fraud since I can't pay myself minimum wage. Every reason it's impossible for me to be independent or free can be traced directly to recent leftist policies done in the name of "liberalism", policies that accomplish literally *nothing* pushed by insane women who don't grasp how anything works on any level.
>>25004752>Individual sovereignty. A simple test to see if you're free is if you have the option to be a subsistence farmer on your own sovereign land.i would certainly be for that even if i'm not interested in liberal governance. i feel like both liberals and anti-liberals conflate liberalism with that though, which is not very accurate if you look at the great tapestry of our societies. western man has always desired to be free long before the french and american revolutions ever happened in many of our nations throughout time. it's just part of who we are, tyranny is simply anathema to our ways of life.
>>25004581Mamdani won in NYC off of a platform based around free childcare, better transportation, and tenant's rights. That seems to fit exactly what I described.>grievance politicsThis is a nebulous term that does a lot of work intuitively without being intellectually meaningful. It only exists to shut down valid discussion concerning the powerful members of society. You could easily label any policy intending to correct the increasing power of billionaires as 'grievance politics'. >>25004587I see no reason to believe that when there are prominent politicians and/or parties that don't incorporate 'anti-white hatred' into their platform. Bernie Sanders comes from literally the whitest state in the US for instance. The whitest countries in the world have a strong preference towards socialism or at least social democracy. These facts make far more sense when you accept that left-wing politics doesn't derive from being anti-white but from someplace else. It's only from a right-wing perspective that it appears anti-white because the contemporary far-right sees everything as a race issue. It's dialectical materialism but for race.>if we've got groups fighting each other over which race gets the most spoilsI don't think this is the right way to frame what's happening. When people unionize, they're not attempting to gather more resources for their race. They're exhibiting a kind of class consciousness instead of a racial one. The concept of the in-group and the out-group isn't fixed, either. To even speak about a white race means we have culturally shifted to incorporate a myriad European ethnicities into one broader category.
>>25004777After radio anything that is established as good in popular culture will be subverted and made meaningless by propaganda. Demons that otherwise could only get expressed/summoned in little local bursts have global control and basically permanent bodies.>Liberated women smoke Camel, if you truly want to be free you enslave yourself to an addiction to our product. PR controls minds like this with vague conditioned associations that have nothing to with anything but people, especially women completely eat it up.If the most popular appeal was the family structure or something instead of freedom the PR would work just as well. Mothers smoke Camel. Whatever is considered good will be subverted by demons.
>>25004804>pro-whites like bernie sandstein>also whites don't exist lolJust fuck off.
>>25004608>White workers.All workers because collective bargaining, regardless of the races of the people doing the bargaining, threatens those with power who are forced to renegotiate. Your explanations don't make sense because they're not made with consideration to the basic fact that those with power wish to either retain their existing levels of power or to add to them. There's no material benefit to disempowering white workers specifically when you can disempower all workers. Because it's the working class as a whole that poses a threat.This is why Amazon warehouses used to show anti-union videos to all new employees during training, not specifically to white employees.>Or vote Trump and get it banned within a yearTrump whose administration has a dozen or so billionaires whose wealth has soared by over $1 trillion dollars in his first year.This exactly the point I'm making. You have substituted race in lieu of everything and it's blinded you to the fact that you're being materially disadvantaged.Trump literally pump and dumped his own supporters (twice) with a crypto scandal. His admin is fundamentally characterized by a relocation of wealth from your wallet to his and because he's white you won't criticize it.
>>24996619fav thing about this clip is the big smile on gore’s face even before ‘stop calling me a crypto nazi’. once he says ‘now listen here you queer’ GV already breaks out into a smile.
>>25004824Why come to a literature board to show off the fact you have zero reading comprehension?
>>25004804that may be true on the state level but this is not feasible the less white your state gets. other groups will naturally exploit it, particularly more recent immigrant groups who are told to exploit it as opposed to assimilate and blacks who are explicitly educated to hate white people for what their ancestors did instead of being "colorblind", correctly identified as a white notion. american whites themselves only started voting for economic liberalism when immigrants came here on masse; ryan faulk has a video about this, the same will happen to europe; (which yes, has multiple ethnicities, but ethnicity, race, and culture all matter) one day if nothing is done. on the federal level, i'm quite literally talking about sanders, he sold out a long time ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IlGoeDIUQyou can try to ignore race but race will not ignore you. look at the universities and see the hatred bells ring for those learning to hate us. the funny thing is, it's not even entirely working with them either, considering some mexicans larping as nazis. but even if you were to remove all the ones that outwardly exploit our kindness, even if you educated them in a proper nationalist manner, they would still prioritize their people among their race and their class. these intersect for the record, i'm not denying class certainly has its importance, many rich white gentiles sell out to the PMC globalist establishment. but while you can have people of different social classes or different parts of the nation get along if you make them do so, you cannot force different races to get along, it's a physical impossibility.https://files.catbox.moe/wk6sws.pdf
>>25004832>There's no material benefit to disempowering white workers specifically when you can disempower all workers.lmao yes there is. A massive amount.Practically all clan-voting ethnic groups support.The vast majority of welfare scam kickbacks. Favors from organized crime.Getting employees willing to do illegal things for you.Almost all done by those ethnic partisan groups. Whites are harder to get to do it because they're the people, primarily white men, who actually pay for those things in the first place and are the ones getting robbed. Incredibly obvious to anyone with actual eyes on the ground and not just spouting theory mindlessly from above.>Trump whose administration has a dozen or so billionaires whose wealth has soared by over $1 trillion dollars in his first year.And got the illegal discrimination against whites and asians you people still champion banned simply by changing procurement rules for government contracts.More than anyone calling themselves left has done for the working class in the last 56 years.>you have substituted raceNo, i'm simply not actively and selectively looking away from it like you are. Presumably because you share the racist anti-white feelings of your fellow "leftists".
>>25004856Everyone has heard the dishonest braindead shit you parrot every fucking day of their lives. You will never be honest. You will never write a post that understands even a fraction of whatever you're replying to. You are completely empty, a mindless fucking robot.
>>25004804>>25004882also this doesn't just apply to race, it applies to ethnicity too. just look at austria-hungary, look at the tutsi and hutu, the american tribesmen etc. we can either repatriate peacefully or we could do things far worse that no one wants to have to do. it'd be utterly sick to have to go that far just have normal nations again.
>>24996719A living state is better than a dead system masquerading as a state.
>>25004882I don't think that's naturally the case given that the distinctions between various white ethnicities have collapsed in new world nations. It's certainly true that there was greater ethnic solidarity among diaspora communities in the past, but that has eased with time as a greater collective European identity emerged. I don't think it's implausible that this could also happen between European and non-European groups in the right conditions. On some level, one could argue it's already happening between white and East Asian people. >he sold out a long time agoI think you're making it out to be bigger than it is. He's also likened poor whites to black South Africans during apartheid. Being charitable, his point is that there's a dimension to the experience of being poor and black that someone who is white, poor or not, won't experience. He could have expressed it better but it's not like he's ranting for the destruction of all whites.>you can try to ignore race but race will not ignore youI don't want to ignore race. I think there are times when it's important to have those discussions. But I think racial discrimination is mediated and exacerbated by capitalism, along with many other kinds of mistreatment, and I'd say that's what motivates leftism more than anything.
>>24996698Probably was dressed in sexy clothing. Meh.
Bernie Sanders is a good example of the objective fact that "left" just means anti-white now and none of them have even the slightest hint of a backbone or values they really care about. In 2015 he was against open borders because it reduces the leverage of labour against capital.A year later he rabidly pro open borders and repeating all the same anti-white, ant-human propaganda because if he doesn't he isn't considered "left".
>>24997147Not necessarily
>>25004884I don't see how any of those reasons respond to the point I made. You're going to have to actually explain them instead of dot pointing them. >And got the illegal discrimination against whites and asians you people still championI've never championed it and it's telling you ignored what I said to focus on DEI policies.Do you not care about Trump enriching his friends from the pockets of his own supporters? Do you acknowledge it's a bad thing but you're willing to tolerate it so you can win elsewhere?>No, i'm simply not actively and selectively looking away from it like you are.You're looking at race while ignoring your class which directly relates to the material power you have in society and is therefore more important.This whole thread has really illuminated that race is the core motivating identity for you, so it's become ideologically necessary for you to demand anti-white sentiment from leftists when the vast majority of leftists aren't especially concerned with race to begin with.Das Kapital is a book about economics, not about race. Communism is a movement about addressing the ills of capitalism, not about the ills of white people.
>>24997615Voegelin sure, not so much Strauss. Maybe swap him for Christopher Dawson or something.
>>24998225>RushdoonyNow thats a name that rarely gets brought up.
>>25004924He said Biden failed on illegal immigration and said it was good of Trump to push for a stronger border
>>25004929Well if it isn't the dick sucking bitch who can't demonstrate. You show up here to tell rest of the liberalism lovers you have nothing but word salads?
>>24998697Nah women don't need influenced to be antisocial its their nature. Rape is simply the male taking whats rightfully his from the female.
>>24999584Rare Jackson pepe. Thanks im gonna take that.
>>25004940Huh? Wtf are you talking about?
>>25004954Your conditioning.
>>25004927Not him, but I think it would be in white people’s interested to support the reimmgration of millions of non-white aliens from their nations considering the amount of money those people either waste on our social programs, or get special benefits from partaking in political chauvinistic, racial patronage networks.If you can’t even bring yourself to agree that maybe mass immigration is a failure from the third world, then you are basically working against interest of working people since these people are getting enriched, getting loans to buy franchises due to being minorities, while working people can’t even afford basic things. It’s a slap in the face.And the worst part about this? Even if leftists somehow some way eventually realize that mass immigration from the third world was a bad idea - which isn't happening anytime soon (hopefully we can at least agree on that) - how will they handle the overwhelming amount of non-whites they have already let in that now steer the leftist movement? You think they will just be like "oops, sorry, pet minorities, we were wrong time for you to leave?" And then the nig socialists and Somalis on welfare will be like "oh ya, you're right - see ya!". I can't see that happening.Do you know any left-leaning people? This will never happen. Their culture is obsessed with fighting White people. The left will not give up on Antifa; they will double down. And just because they have an agreement on the Israel question, it does not mean a right-wing person's desires in any way line up with theirs.
>>25004935>illegalWhile opposing everything Trump does using the same extremist language every leftist does and completely kowtowing to the most deranged elements like BLM and open borders advocates.A random nigger can take his stage at will because that's the attitude he exemplifies. Pretending the disparity between what retards like that tolerate from blacks and whites isn't anti-white is an example of the blatant dishonesty.
>>25004959I think you're mistaking me for someone else.
>>25004968I don't care what you think about anything.
>>25004970Uh, ok?
>>25004972The Estonian at least demonstrates periodically. You must the be the everything is theology dick sucker. You might be the most spineless one on here.
>>25004927>I've never championed it and it's telling you ignored what I said to focus on DEI policies.Amusing considering that's exactly what you did in response to them being brought up in the first place.>Do you not care about Trump enriching his friends from the pockets of his own supporters?I care about what affects me and mine. All politicians rob us, but only one of them said me and my relatives should be shut out from jobs and education because of our race and leftist cheered and told us to shut up about it for a full decade before we bloodied their nose.>You're looking at race while ignoring your class I don't share a class with the scabs and lumpens of the world, present in my country solely to help the owning classes rob me more efficiently.>This whole thread has really illuminated that race is the core motivating identity for youHe says while he actively supports racial chauvinism by simply telling whiteys to shut up and take it out of false solidarity that's in no way reciprocal, as nothing is from you faux-modern leftists. Not happening.>Communism is a movement about addressing the ills of capitalismHe says as he defends it's most vile forms.
>>25004980You might be schizophrenic my friend.
At the end of the day, the left’s relentless push for mass third world immigration and their frontline efforts to shield it by blocking ICE deportations, expanding sanctuary cities, and fighting every enforcement tool in court has been a direct assault on America’s working class, particularly white workers who bear the brunt of the crime, bills for the programs(which will be fraudulent in 5 years), and unable anywhere to rent in a decent community. They talk about material conditions and ‘ma interests’, but white people have the greatest material reality of all to deport all non-whites at this point.The dem administrations in more blue strongholds, borders were effectively opened wide from 2021–2024. 10 million migrant encounters (many released into the interior), net migration spiking to 2–3 million annually. They flooding labor markets in construction, hospitality, agriculture, and service jobs. Legal immigrants got benefits to get loans to buy franchisees, they were more likely to get into good government positions because of their race, and what did the Left-wing activists and politicians do? they did the donkey work: “Abolish ICE” campaigns, lawsuits against deportations, and local policies that tied federal agents’ hands, ensuring millions stayed to compete for scarce jobs and resources. this is not solidarity, there is no solidarity. The damage this did to working people is undeniable. there is no solidarity with the third world because they don’t find solidarity with you, it’s that simple.
>>25005059When the orange pedo is out of office we are going to flood you migatards with Mexican immigrants. It's going to be a tidal wave that will drown your pathetic little movement forever.
>>25005084Imagine being this nihilistic and mentally ill.
>>25005138No white right winger will ever even have a whiff of the Presidency again. You're done.
>>25005149you already showed your hand in public far too much. the silent majority already opposes the great replacement, and trump overriding international law sets a great precedent for future GOP politicians to follow suit with domestic law and steal the election if need be like they did with biden. in 2030, the supreme court will be stacked with rightists. it's already over for you before it even started.
>>25005138The optimates are gone, Pompey murdered by foreign barbarians. When Trump Pennsylvanicus falls Baron Octavian will consolidate the populares empire.
>>25005199Meds. Now.
>>25005199The silent majority is a bunch of ancient white boomers who are about keel over in droves.
>>25005232We're taking North Africa with the 9th or without it. Join for glory or be left behind.
>>24996619>Whoa, so this is the power of intellectual conservatismWhoa, so this is the power of liberal bullshit demoralization posting. if the situation was hopeless, propaganda like this would be unnecessary. *sniff* that's what fear smells like, bitch. the stink of it is all over you.
>>25004728isnt it weird. The far right supposedly points to jewry as one/the problem. Factions of the left now embrace it, too. yong people who jostorically ate up the school fed propaganda of we're all one people, coom-by-ya... are now having increasing demographics that will point at jewry as bad.>how weird is that, when everyone is turning into anti-semitic assholes, for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Gee. If only someone could find some example, of what to do in this situation. Hmmm. I wonder, has this ever happened in history before, and what did they do about this issue. Anons? Anyone? its like I should know the answer to this one.
>>25001512in the end? here's the left's whole platform on races:1) we're all equal, everyone regardless of (list of shit)2) discrimination of any kind, including but not limited to (list of shit) is bad, wrong, illegal.3) word salad when anyone questions why straight white males are discriminated against at every turn, *legally*4) where do these angry people come from, what's wrong with them. come sing coom-bye-ya with us.
>>25005325This is the funniest shit to me. They openly and gleefully act against your interests, and then go "wtf why are they so radicalized." Sadly even if society were to radically reverse course right this moment, it would be too late - and not enough.
>>24998697Lmao bodied that freak!
>>24996619US Military is Right Wing now stay in your lane and kiss the boot commie scum.
>>25005426>Sadly even if society were to radically reverse course right this moment, it would be too late - and not enough.that's not true and we all know it. Though I know what you mean. The cure would now be worse than the disease. The Christchurch massacre guy, St. Tarrant. He *demonstrated* that procedure, he didn't just talk. He literally gave his whole life up, to show it *could* be done. Its just distasteful to do it. And you give everything up, to do it. Yet, it CAN be done. And in the aftermath of the Christchurch shootiungs? I noticed something no one else seemed to. Overnight? Terrorism, all over europe. It just *poof* disappeared, overnight. Next thing you know? radical Islam (wahabbism) started putting its happy face on. Why, easy. he was one man, and he had no special training other than pure desire. If he inspired a hundred others, who wanted to do what he did? Radical islam was *fucked*. Never push a man into a corner and torture him and take all he has, for too long. At some point, the rat will leap for your throat. The left? Is nothing more than one of those women, that kick boys in the nuts, then laugh. They know they can get away with it, because rules and laws and reasons. But much like breaking a woman's jaw, it seems pointless to burn your own house down to "win" and get it "back". of course if you do? The people who stole your house, live in it and laugh enjoying it... will burn with the house. If you are *willing* to go buy a tent and live in the ashes, you can. INstead, we're at he point where people go... "oh well, what can you do. It is what it is..." (and its *not*)TL;DR --- the cure is just more painful than the disease now. Though the cure, exists.
>>25005490We did it Reddit!
>>25005493Lol OP isn't a Marxist, just a pathetic, aging libshit who believes in nothing
>>25005502>Christchurch shootiungs? I noticed something no one else seemed to. Overnight? Terrorism, all over europe. It just *poof* disappeared, overnight.Not really. Muslims burnt down the Notre Dame (and got away with it) a few weeks after that shooting.
>>25004804>Mamdani won in NYCIts over
>>25004907>European and non-European groups in the right conditionsBetween 700 - 1000 years from now. Thats my estimate
>>24996967If they were sicko freemasons then maybe
>>25005516>Not really. Muslims burnt down the Notre Dame (and got away with it) a few weeks after that shooting.sure. But *nothing* like what had been going on. There were "shootings of peace" all over, constantly, not limited to any one country. Allahu Ahkbar was heard all over. Look a year later, it all calmed down *quick*. Christchurch showed them what their "weak" enemy was truly capable of. They went right back to boiling the frog slowly again. Muslim bombing in london. oh anon, that's just part and parcel. Well, christchurch was part and parcel too. What tarrant did, was he punched a bully in the nose, and surprised him. The bully has to recalibrate. Tarrant bought us a little more time. We will of course waste it and face the same fate as before, though.
>>24997715Social decay means nothing to conservatives beyond all their whining. They’re much more interested in gooning to the sight of random dead leftists like that girl who got killed by ICE. As long as they “feel” like they’re powerful and in charge, that’s all that matters, and Trump gives that feeling better than anyone. But because a different group is really the one that holds the cards today (Jews) by 2028 the only entity that will be empowered is Israel while the West remains headed for disaster
>>24997715>>25006258Please stop baiting. Nobody is this retarded and I can see exactly how the retard sausage was made.
>>25005634This is really the average chud worldview and it’s why you’ll lose
>>25006291We will lose because we aren't allowed to breed anymore.
>>25006293You can in fact breed — the West has all the money and power in the world to create any kind of culture it wants. It just decided it wants to create a culture of gambling, pornography, fast food, strip malls and immigration. Not exactly ideal for birth rates
>>24996627/tv/ in my lit? Thanks Waingro.>>24997715>They’ve dominated this decade so farnigga did you forget 2020-2024? >>24997712
>>25001230>immediately starts babbling about the orange man for no reasonTDS goes both ways
>>24997479A lot of words just to say "I can't refute you so I'm just going to call you names"
>>25004414>It only makes me unique if your experience of leftism is a highly curated /pol/ feed of twitter reposts which is how leftism is depicted on this site. Leftists in mainstream politics typically run on concerns to do with the cost of living, housing, and the growing divide between rich and poor. Core leftist texts, whether from Marx or anarchists, are more to do with social reorganization along lines that are less intrinsically exploitative. This racial reframing is frequently employed to decenter the matter of extreme material inequality which disenfranchises you far more effectively than anything else.Are you a time traveler from 1990? Your characterization of mainstream leftism hasn't been accurate in quite a while unfortunately.
>>25006488What have "progressive" retards progressed?
>>25006546Decay.
>>25006546labour rightsYour turn
>>25006258>Social decay means nothing to conservatives beyond all their whining. They’re much more interested in gooning to the sight of random dead leftists like that girl who got killed by ICE. As long as they “feel” like they’re powerful and in charge, that’s all that mattersthis is performative bullshit. it means literally nothing. Watch...Social decay means nothing to LIBERALS beyond all their whining. They’re much more interested in gooning to the sight of random dead leftists like CHARLIE KIRK. As long as they “feel” like they’re powerful and in charge, that’s all that matterssee? its just some fill in the blanks bullshit. and iof you feel its im[pactful? Then my reworded statement is equally truthful as your version. See, you think all "chuds" are low IQ meatheads. And that's your mistake. You do nothing except spout whatever sounds good at the moment. Here's a good example. Trumps first term. A lefty article writer claimed that "why isn't Trump doing something about maternity leave. Women need this." Less than three months later? Trump unveiled regulations that did just that, turned out it was already in the works. Same lady writes another article. "How Trumps extension of maternity leave actually hurts women". WHich demonstrates she believes NEITHER article she wrote. Its nothing but performative bullshit. Say whatever we think hurts trump the most, that's all you lefty assholes are doing for his whole second term. Its so thin and fake, its fuckjng obvious.
>>25007617typo... "random dead RIGHTISTS", even
>>25006962>labour rightslabour rights FOR EVERYONE EXCEPT STRAIGHT WHITE MALESfixed it for you.
explain this, I can't wait to hear it. How can an article, in a major news outlet, mind you. Bear a headline saying "white people ARE going extinct, and why that's a GOOD thing." Its a crock of fucking shit. White guilt, is running on fumes.
>>25007627labour rights are strongest in the whitest countries (in Europe) albeithough so this cope doesnt work I'm afraid
>>25006505>cost of living, housing, and the growing divide between rich and poor.lleftists dont DO anything about these issues, they just talk about it. LIke always "doing for the poor inner city blacks" You had 16 straight years once, didn't do a goddamned thing. 20 fucking years later, the left was *still* blaming "reagan". Blame, is all the left knows. Now its all whitey's fault. Well? everyone's getting fed up with your bullshit. You know why I don't get shot by uniformed people? Because I don't RUN MY CAR INTO THEM, that's why.
>>25007627I live in america. Its an employment war on straight white males. Major corporations had the brass balls to openly put out advertisements for free manager training? With it right in black and white "white males need not apply". WOmen in HR are online bragging *openly*, laughing. "I search social media of every applicant. one whiff of any trump bullshit? Into the garbage that application goes! Ha ha!" why she still has a JOB is beyond me. and THAT is the state of things on the ground here in America. Go to any walmart. 30 something guy been there 12 years? stocking chelves carry heavy boxes around. some girl with rivets in her face and purple hair? Every bit of 18 y/0... been there 6 months, assistant manager. get fucking real. its DEI bullshit.
>>25007617Except I’m not basing my words on any sort of blanket partisan hatred of the Right. The literal party line right now is mobilized around gambling companies, color revolutions to turn other countries gay and liberal, information psyops on social media sites owned by billionaires, fracturing Western power by having America threaten Europe, etc. The right-wing vision of the world, past all the huge changes MAGA promised, is still the exact same end-of-history neocon bullshit they’ve always believed and which inevitably leads to the West losing its identity as it drowns in brown cosmopolitan muck. All is in service of the Empire — not race, not national heritage, not demographics. Those things are secondary to what Trump actually does which is hollow out the US imperial core and pick off easy targets before our own decline settles in. But enjoy the OnlyFans and gambling before the jeets and Africans flood the west after 2028 I guess
>>25007825>But enjoy the OnlyFans and gambling before the jeets and Africans flood the west after 2028 I guessIts going to be brutal. They are going to import them in massive amounts out of pure spite
>>24996698https://www.crimemagazine.com/great-prevaricator-0
>>25007645Simon says PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND DO A BACKFLIP INTO A HALF TWIST HANDSTAND
>>25007878Gay post. Do you suck cocks, perchance?
>>25007841What compels them to do this besides mental illness?
>>25007904They genuinely and fervently believe that they are morally in the right.
>>25006962Pure fantasy.
>>25007617>its just some fill in the blanks bullshit.He literally took what uncle Ted said about "progressive" political activism and switched it to conservatives.Their goal is always to obfuscate, lie, undermine any chance of anything good ever happening.>>25007825>I’m not basing my words on any sort of blanket partisan hatred of the Right.You absolutely are.>The literal party line right now is mobilized around gambling companies, color revolutions to turn other countries gay and liberal, information psyops on social media sites owned by billionaires, fracturing Western power by having America threaten Europe, etc.You are the exact same deranged brainwashed retard NPC that's everywhere parroting the most subversive media narratives imaginable while pretending you're not just a mindless tool of propagandists.You are the fucking problem retard.
>>25006291Late, and that guy is pretty incoherent, but when a group is pillaging and destroying a nation the solution is to take care of them swiftly and violently yes. China built literal concentration camps for the Uyghurs after the countless violent attacks by those groups throughout the 1990s - the early 2010s against the Chinese people, and guess what? The shit stopped instantly. >it’s why you’ll loseThe average zoomer is very far-right, and Nick Fuentes is one of the most popular people in the world right now
>>25008120The "you'll lose" always gets me. Who cares even if it's true? Hurting the enemy is its own reward.
>>25008124I care retard and if you don't then you shouldn't pretend your mindless violence is in my name.The reality is the "left" is far more violent by every metric which is why they have to center all these narratives around the rare exceptions like Tarrant. He only gave them ammo to maintain their delusional worldview. Accomplished literally nothing else.
>>25008120The average zoomer is a mindless consumer who doesn't give a shit about anything except the latest nigger buzzword. You're confusing your tiny e-bubble for reality.
>>25008140Nick gets 60-80k live viewers on weeknights, and his clips are getting hundreds of thousands of likes on TikTok and Instagram reels. It's all a chud echo-chamber, until it isn't.
>>25008120>>25008124>>25008134Forceful, violent solutions only work when being applied by the State. When the State is seized, the currently occupied Governments, the CEO's, NGO's, state Judges, and predominate "Academics" who have orchestrated and reveled in this this nightmare will be the first to have the hammer brought down on them. Leftist and Islamic extremists in the general public will be taken care of next - then mass deportations obviously. Things like Christchurch might've put them on notice that some are willing to fight back, but aside from that it spurred the Government to increase immigration and support for the immigrants tenfold, and emboldened Muslims to retaliate which was then of course covertly supported by the government (Notre Dame)
>>25008134NTA m8. Also I'm not advocating violence. Not yet at least.>>25008161All it takes is capturing the security apparatus and the judiciary or even just making them neutral. Niggers, spics and other client classes won't move a finger to help the academics, activists etc. if push comes to shove.
>>25008166>Niggers, spics and other client classes won't move a finger to help the academics, activists etc. if push comes to shove.Right, that's why I'm saying they need to be (hypothetically) taken out first, then comes the civilian extremists. The median Ethnic importees are dumb cattle who will do what they're told.
>>25008169**the powerful Jews and traitorous Whites come first, that is.
>>25008166You are that anon you mindless fucking shithead.
>>25008170frankly these are the only ones who need to die, the true believers at least. the foreigners will deport themselves if you cut the money off except for the wealthy, who can simply have their property seized. as for the progressive commissars? well, they provided a pretty useful model for what should happen to them actually.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
>>25008178No I mean the one before.
>>25008472or if they're emboldened to make a scene of their death throes, like yesterday's dyke was, take a lesson from the chinese.
>>25008472>>25008486It’s inevitable.
>>24996821>anarchism supports traditional valuesWhat?
>>25008120You fail to understand that China was only able to do things like that because it isn’t a liberal country. The West is liberal to the core and the only way it won’t be liberal is through civil war or a slow process of fascism making a return through public opinion. These are exceedingly unlikely and conservative parties right now are still fundamentally just liberal imperialists who want to create a globohomo world of porn, McDonald’s and (at this moment) White-Persian-Venezuelan mutt babies. The West recreates the rest of the world in its image and its image right now is far, far from being “conservative” in any real sense — not ethnically, not culturally, definitely not religiously
>>25009468The US had internment camps, eugenics and established global hegemony when it was still true to its liberal roots. No side is really liberal in that sense anymore even though they appeal to liberal ideals to justify oppressive policies that undermine the actual liberal ideals like valuing diversity of thought.
You people never get tired of whining about politics do you? Endless ceaseless handwringing over events that you have no say or influence over. Why is it so enticing for you to spin your wheels fruitlessly over this particular hobby horse?
>>25009550How propaganda works is an interesting subject and politically motivated propaganda saturates everything so everything becomes about that.
>>25009534Being nominally liberal is all that matters. It’s irrelevant whether or not America makes the world more liberal and more capitalist through illiberal means; it’s always been that way and it’s a fool’s errand to constantly pick apart the contradictions in these operations.
>>25009691So you agree the US could deport all the niggers back to Africa like Lincoln wanted without muh "fascism"?
>>25009707Liberalism itself was founded by slave-owners
>>25008629Nothing more traditional than the close knit tribes that resisted the overgrown city-states. From Enkidu to the Appalachian hill folk and pioneers, mostly unwritten history is full people trying to get away from those festering clusterfucks in the city centers of "civilization". They bred disease, taxed your labor and took your sons for their wars.Ever hear of Jesus? The things he proposed were more radical than the Romans wanted, so much o fit was edited away, but later reformists would read and pull these teachings back out. The Beguines, the Hussites, the Anabaptists, the Deists. Acts 4:32, the early walled city communes like Dithmarschen to the Hanseatic League. People have tried to get away from centralized power bases. It was only after the revolutionary age/Industrial Age that the name anarchist was applied to this long held wish.Marx's dismissal of the "utopian socialists" for being too Christian didn't help his case for global authoritarianism before "the end of scarcity" that would bring about communism. (I say it often. He was a twit in many ways)Some use the word "traditionalism" to mean some old king they toiled under when they were a carefree child, or the "glories" of Rome that they've only seen in books, but real old school tradition is what the anarchists have been trying to bring back.
>>25009926Based but calling yourself anarchist just puts you in company with the commies you apparently hate.Why not join some established community similar to the Amish who have already done the work to be protected to some degree?
>>25009974>Why not join some established community similar to the AmishI'm not shitting in a bucket.
>>25004752>Free trade translates into more wealth for everyone.I think it just translates to a McDonalds on every corncerns. Everyone knows food is much cheaper in countries besides America
>>25009993>Everyone knows food is much cheaper in countries besides AmericaAbsolutely false. It's cheaper in dollars you subhuman brainwashed fucking retard. Nowhere comes close to the excesses in the US. Some have higher GDP per capita like Switzerland but their cheapest kebab is 5x the price of your average one. Your poorest are in practice richer than many middle class in Europe. Even property prices are a fraction of EU prices as long as you're not talking about the densest urban centers, the most in demand places in the world.>>25009991You don't have to. You just have to set up your plumbing and disposal methods yourself with the community.
>>25010021Literally no one here is stupid enough to fall for that unbelievable horseshit you are trying to peddle. >>>/pol/
>>25010048This is objectively measurable shit you disgusting subhuman creature. I am European and well travelled unlike you. Even watching your retarded movies meant to portray nigger ghettos as poor just demonstrates how rich even they are compared to most Europeans.Driving around the most ghetto places in the southern US all I saw was driveways with expensive cars and even fucking boats. We were amazed at the buffets that cost a fifth of an average cheap meal in Europe. I can not get a house for $100k anywhere, no matter how far into the woods I go.
>>24996718Maybe classically liberal, but it's not and shall never be marxist. There's a difference, between the neo shudra open borders globalist third worldisms, where we must mix oriental djinn brained parasites along with the anglo-"insert european here" population.
>>25009550Go on Xitter right now. Top-to-bottom the entire website is a U.S. government propaganda psyop to push for neocon regime change around the world with every MAGAtard rallying for it. Because that’s all the conservatives can amount to despite how much they attempt to rebrand as “populists” or “isolationists” or whatever else. Mass public opinion on politics does in fact matter and they’ve realized they can engineer it the best with social media. It has become abundantly clear that the system welcomed Trump and his conservative movement because mainstream liberalism was making people too docile, with October 7 really terrifying the ruling class in particular. Once they achieve all their geopolitical aims in solidifying the system using conservative manpower, it’ll be back to our regularly-scheduled programming as usual — demographic replacement, pornification, fertility decline, woke stupidity, etc. Conservatives as usual are too retarded to realize how they’re being used because all they want is to shoot foreign brown men and fuck their women
>>25010578That in no way answered the question that anon posed. It was just more useless frothing at the mouth about events far out of your ability to influence in any way.
>>25010578I'm saying this because I love you. You need an exorcism.
