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>Buddha: Life is suffering, so here's how to fix it.
>Schopenhauer: Life is suffering and there is no hope, chud.
Yeah no shit the office lady is scared of this koala looking freak.
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>>25002613
Schopenhauer offers solutions. You're retarded.
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>>25002613
fpbp
/thread
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>>25001982
Buddha teaches you how to transcend mortality and become a God.
Schopenhauer teaches how to complain.
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>>25002613
At least Schoppy doesn't have a huge turd on his head
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>>25003451
kys shudra
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i like schopenhauer, but if i’m being honest i cannot see life as suffering. i can understand the point of view, but can’t truthfully agree. and in the end this line of thought forces me into thinking it
comes down to something below (above?) philosophy. schopenhauer (though apparently having a very lively youth as far as girls go) was unattractive. and maybe that goes very far in explaining his implicit outlook.
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Ons says life is suffering and that's a GOOD THING since it leads to enlightenment, that's why being reincarnated as a god is not considered helpful in Buddhism because gods don't suffer enough to seek enlightenment.

>Every suffering is a buddha-seed, because suffering impels mortals to seek wisdom. But you can only say that suffering gives rise to buddhahood. You can’t say that suffering is buddhahood. Your body and mind are the field. Suffering is the seed, wisdom the sprout, and buddhahood the grain.

But!

>To be impartial means to look on suffering as no different from nirvana, because the nature of both is emptiness.

-The Zen Teachings of Bodhidharma
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>>25002613
>Buddha: Life is suffering, so here's how end it*
>Schopenhauer: Life is suffering but a calm life is fine
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all things are equal (human)
>wow, so enlightened… thank you buddha
all things are equal (grizzly bear)
>uh wait you can’t le kill and eat me, that’s hecking BAD!! I dont WANT to DIE!!!!!! I should be allowed to kill but you shouldn’t be allowed to kill me!!!! AEEEEEIIIIIEEEEE STOP EATING MEEEEE!!!!!!
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>>25003426
>Buddha teaches you how to transcend mortality and become a God.
But the goal of Buddhism is to cease existence entirely, not become a god. You're thinking of Mormonism.
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>>25005333
>But the goal of Buddhism is to cease existence entirely
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>>25001982
Wtf bros? I thought JBW theory was law and that currycels had zero smv?
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>>25005389
that's how you cease existence dummy
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Buddhism is the "motte and bailey" of religions. Because there are so many disparate schools you can claim and reject many things. At least Islam, Judaism, and Christianity have some kind of core doctrine
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>>25005535
>At least Islam, Judaism, and Christianity have some kind of core doctrine

yes but they're for pseudlets and low-castes such as yourself
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>>25005548
You're only going to get word salad from him.
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>>25005535
Buddhism has SOME core dogmata cross all sects. But unlike other religions, they are defined by what is unknown. Buddha defined them by being questions he refused to answer saying, "It doesn't further", which is taken to mean it doesn't benefit to think about because it will just cause baseless speculation and division. It can also be understood to means it has nothing to do with the practice of Buddhism so he's not the one to answer it. Or simply that he doesn't know and doesn't care.

They are the ten indeterminates

1. Is the cosmos eternal?
2. Is the cosmos not eternal?
3. Is the cosmos infinite?
4. Is the cosmos not infinite?
5. Are we nothing but our bodies?
6. Do we have non-physical self?
7. Does a Buddha exist after death?
8. Does a Buddha perish when he dies?
9. Does a Buddha both exist and not exist after death?
10. Does a Buddha neither exist nor not exist after he dies?

There are also the imponderables which Buddha said is pointless to put up into words because it will only actually harm understanding and lead to semantic debates. The imponderables include what is the mechanism of karma, is there a creator, and so forth.
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>>25005562
Those are just 5 questions repeated twice in the affirmative/negative
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The whole meme is wrong, so it leads to a wrong discussion. The Buddha never said "life is suffering", the first Noble Truth is different:

> Because the Buddha does teach the way to put an end to suffering. He doesn’t spend a lot of time focusing on issues that are beside the point. His very first sermon went straight to the point: “This is going to all be about suffering and the end of suffering.” His first noble truth, which is often misrepresented as, “Life is suffering,” actually says simply, “There is suffering” and identifies what it is: the act of clinging. Wherever there’s clinging, there’s suffering. And what causes the clinging? Craving. Which is why we have a path to put an end to craving.

https://www.dhammatalks.org/audio/evening/2013/130816-the-brightness-of-life.html
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>>25005585
Yep, because the guy asking kept trying to get around Buddha refusing to answer
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>>25005562
>Buddhism has SOME core dogmata cross all sects
Those are not really pan-Buddhist dogmas as some Mahayana and Vayrayana sects do have definitive answers to those questions
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>>25005970
If you include moonies with Christian and Druze with Muslim
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>>25005985
Not a great analogy as Mahayana and Vajrayana constitute something like 85-90% of all Buddhists on the planet, and almost all Buddhist philosophy has originated from them too.
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>>25001982
life is suffering but good
life is suffering is bad

sollipsism can be expressed only through the first
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Most religions are pretty simple and straightforward. Instead of simply practicing their beliefs, people divert and mess things up.
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>>25005523
It's escaping conditioned existence, not the same thing.
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>>25002940
Shut the fuck up, samefag.
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>>25006327
Meds
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>>25005993
You didn't say them in general, you said "some" sects of them
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>>25002613
>koala looking freak.
heh
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>>25002737
He was a self-help proto-grifter and his advice is scientifically proven to make things worse, pseud.
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>>25001982
Slopenour and nitchee btfo once again.
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>>25003525
Suck my dick dalit
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>>25004626
How does one learn the ways of the bear?
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>>25007564
>modernist indian

As I said, you need to be beheaded
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>>25007619
I'm not a pajeet, you retarded buddcel. You buddhers are as insufferable as christcucks.



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