Average love story written by a man>Self insert author met a slighty average sweet girl that loves him. At worst shes a little too young for him but aside that its a vanilla love storyAverage love story written by a woman>Self insert is an average shy woman that keep switch hardcore sex between sociopatic billionaries, serial killers, vampires and so on that are all mean to anyone and use her as a fucktoy with some lovebombing in between. They are all also in the 0,30% top of male beautyWhat caused these two oppositive phenomenons? I read a lot of romantic slop books and can confirm these stereotypes are generally true
>>25002682Can't wait for this thread to turn into a series of platitudes on the female nature.
>>25002682Did you forget the many, many manga and Light Novels about the "hero" keeping a harem of slaves that are all devoted to him? Eros is naturally anti-social and sickening, especially to people with different erotic desires.
>>25002682>What caused these two oppositive phenomenons?Quite simply, and seemingly paradoxically, women's lower libido.Women are pickier than men; thus men fanstasize about getting a pretty young girl to commit to opening her legs for them exclusively forever without a feeling of her settling. Women on the other hand can easily get men who are way out of their league to bang them in the most monstrously depraved way, so what they fantasize about is getting one of these peak men to commit to putting off with their bleak and inadequate bodies and personalities forever to the exclusion of their numerous much better options.
>>25002764You called it.>>25002822
>>25002764Well shucks who could've guessed that based on the OP
Why does everything on this nigger website turn into a debate about women? Just get some pussy or something.
>>25002776Can only think of like 4 or 5, which is tiny compared to the massive torrent of stuff shit out each year.It's not even common enough to be called a trope.
>>25002901The entirety of mainstream literature is currently laser focused exclusively on women.It would be weirder if women never came up when talking about literature. Also it's stupid to talk about the romance genre without also bringing up women's taste and sensibilities.
>>25002764>>25002842>>25002900>the explanation for this phenomenon has to be fully sociological>a priori, biological differences can have caused 0% of this discrepancy which is too readly observed to just deny outright!lmao, I didn't realize there were a bunch of second wave feminists on this board
>>25002682It would be more fair if you considered that the isekai manga/anime genre exists. Men are in no way better than women, if anything their sex fantasies look slightly stupider by mixing in "hero" fantasies and stuff like that.
>>25002958>mainstream literature>on 4chanThis.I got an anon telling me to go back to r*ddit for posting some obscure racist lit fic that got published a couple months ago.Pop culture is the norm on 4chan nowadays. You are a plebbitor if you don't care about it, or so it seems.>>25002951Harem is a tag on any anime website, no?>>25002900I'd say posting tranime and a jewlywood movie gave away the complexity of thought OP was aiming at.Although you could definitely address the whole debate on a deeper level, but for that you need someone who actually read romance novels.OP just generally stated that he did read a lot of them, but that doesn't mean anything concrete.Without anyone who would say, for example, the 3 most sold romance novels that he has read, this thread is bound to turn into a youtube comment section with less moderation.>>25002981Who are you quoting?
On its face it seems ridiculous, but I think that Nick Fuentes is right about trying to have sex being the gayest thing you can do.
>>25002682Romance books are porn for women. Once you understand this the phenomenon makes sense.
>>25002682>Self insert author met a slighty average sweet girl that loves him. At worst shes a little too young for him but aside that its a vanilla love story95% of women can get this with a snap of a finger the day they grow titsthus they seek something else
>literaturehow many chudcel threads do there need to be?
4chan is just incel.is by another name.
>>25003025>posting tranime and a jewlywood movie gave away the complexity of thought OPYou're too charitable. OP didnt think at all. It won't stop retards from complaining though
>>25003025>Although you could definitely address the whole debate on a deeper level, but for that you need someone who actually read romance novels.I have read the major female bestsellers - Twilight, 50 Shades, Fourth Wing - and read shit ton of female fanfiction, and had the pleasure of ghsotwriting some.OP is extremely, extremely, extremely correct. The only his misses is how the female novel is based upon advancing and receding sexual action that ends up in a final emotional fuck. The plot, lore, and anything but the sexual dynamic is secondary to sex. If you can't see this obvious pattern, you don't belong anywhere near serious literature which requires the ability to see and notice and hold in your head several patterns at the same time.Women romance lit was, since its inception, written porn. It never aspired to anything deeper than that, and it's you who puts too much meaning in very stale and boring writing.
>>25003320No you haven't and also you're a faggot; but I agree with your overall statement.
>>25003329>No you haven't and also you're a faggotThis.Also, I don't agree with the sentiment.I want an actual discussion. I'm not gonna reply to what is basically a bot post tho.
>>25002764Avians capable of learning the concept of money shared theirs across nests. Simians capable of it opted to sell sex and divide things further.
>>25002901i know right? people on here take women way too seriously whether incel or feminist. they're not that complicated, it only seems that way because the law privileges them and they can do whatever their arbitrary whims tell them to do.
>>25002682are all women bisexual? /thread I guess
I don't think I've ever read a romance book. What's the best one?
>>25003852Reminders of Him if you are poor.Lolita if you are rich.
>>25002682>WAAHHHH>MALE CHARACTERS>LE SCARE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>WHY CANT THEY MAKE STORIES ABOUT THE SPECIAL GIRL WHO IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE SHE IS A SPECIAL GIRL IN THE MOST SPECIAL WAY!?!?!?!?
>>25003906okay, new parameters, no foidslop allowed>lolitathanks
Any recommendations for romance books targeted at straight males (it doesn't go into descriptions about how hot the dude is, the heroine isn't a plain Jane just so the reader can self insert into her etc.)? Preferably not smut.
>>25002682>picrelA silent voice was written by a woman>>25004503I hate romance but pride and prejudice was unironically fun to read
>>25002822Women being pickier is going to cause bloody revolutions
>>25002682Both of those books were written by women though.
>>25002682The only love story written by a man that I've read to my knowledge was Norwegian Wood, and although it wasn't a smut novel like most written by women are, it was definitely more complicated than the vanilla story you described. Murakami loves the BPD girls.
>>25002682I tried to write a romance short story once, just a scribble in my journal if you will, it begins with the usual boy loves girl, he being clumsy, the girl like it, and they go on dating; but the plot took 180 at the end where the boy ended up necking himself due to the inevitable side plot of his personal nihilism. That's where I realize that writing is not for me and I'm better off living as a reader instead
>>25003683Yes, and so are all men. It's just that some prefer femboys and some prefer lumberjacks.
>>25002682>Average love story written by a man>>>/a/>>>/s/>>>/h/>>>/y/>>>/hc/>>>/aco/>>>/gif/That's not even an accusation of offtopic, that's a direct refutation of the quoted claim.
>>25005543Why is NTR so popular kek
>>25005578"A vanilla love story" indeed
>>25002682>men want a woman who is breedable (young, healthy and pleasant enough)>women want a man who is powerful (aka can dominate other men, be it through his wealth, social position, or simply by physically murdering them)SImple as
>Take female sex hormones to completely and officially drop out of thr race and not have to worry about it>Still get baited by shit like this.Hard to kick the blackpill bucket ngl.
>>25002682>Self insert is an average shy MAN that keep switch hardcore sex between sociopatic billionaries, serial killers, vampiresI read books/VNs like this
>>25003320Have you played what men like to consume, video games where they murder and steal?
>>25005699It's called CK3 and the temptation of murder makes our fantasy characters actually virtuous when they don't murder and stay faithful to their wives, the actual male fantasy.Any deviation from this is a result of chemicals in the water turning frogs gay.
A silent voice was written by a woman and it fucking sucks. The main character never earns their redemption. This is NPC-core because if you think this movie is romantic, you are a scumbag. I would hate to have you as a partner
