>Marxism is a religionit seems like a reddit tier observation but it's literally true. I didn't realize how true it was until I started reading more about the history of the christian church. marxism and early christianity and islam follow almost the exact same formula and psychology.
>>25007034No, Marxisim is a meme, as are religions. You can take "ism" as shorthand for "is a meme".Read picrel.
False flag thread. OP is a tranny nigger faggot.
>>25007087Fagism (you)
>>25007150>>25007193you are OP bumping his own dogshit thread that belongs on /pol/
>>25007034read Voeglin instead
>>25007034Once it's pointed out to you that Marxists treat The Revolution exactly like Christains treat The Rapture, you'll never not notice how true this is. >[Russell] met Vladimir Lenin and had an hour-long conversation with him. In his autobiography, he mentions that he found Lenin disappointing, sensing an "impish cruelty" in him and comparing him to "an opinionated professor". He cruised down the Volga on a steamship. His experiences destroyed his previous tentative support for the revolution. He subsequently wrote a book, The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism, about his experiences on this trip, taken with a group of 24 others from the UK, all of whom came home thinking well of the Soviet regime, despite Russell's attempts to change their minds.This sounds fascinating, I'll have to check it out.
>>25007034>more than 10 people in the same place who all have the same ideas?>IT'S LIKE A LE RELIGIONmidwit tier understanding of mankind. is nationalism a religion too because they treat the fatherland as sacred, they die for it and they chant pompous songs about it?
>>25007256>>25007219the reason Russell makes people seethe is that he states the incredibly simple truth.
>>25007256sure there is an element of religiosity to nationalism, but it doesn't have sacred councils, holy figures, and even ecumenical councils, nor does it invade and redefine dozens of distinct nations like christianity, islam, and communism. nationalism is more like a mass psychosis.
>>25007264Hilariously bad take. You're confusing general group dynamics for ideological peculiarities and you've even got those wrong. Nations do have those things. Even the American founding father phenomenon is a reflection of the early church fathers.
>>25007301i've seen plenty of in-fighting between nationalists, but i've never heard a nationalist call another nationalist a "revisionist" (heretic).>Even the American founding father phenomenon is a reflection of the early church fathers.so was the roman empire a religion then?
>>25007301yeah theres a cult of the founding fathers and a pseudo canon, but it just doesnt have the same vibe or weight as the early church ecumenical councils or marxism's internationals
>>25007264Read up on civil religion
>>25007219the revolution actually happened though
>>25007264Neither of those things are requirements of religion, though. And as far as invading and redefining nations, that is exactly what nationalism does. How do you think all those feudal states in Europe came to have their modern identity?
>>25007318You've never heard a nationalist call another nationalist unpatriotic?>so was the roman empire a religion then?Nigga what? The emperor was literally deified and worshipped. Yes.
why so much discussion about marxism anymore anyways? do you people not see the current state of the world? there are no bigger losers currently than leftists, they have fucking nothing besides the mayor of new york
>>25007318Traitor is a by word for it. The Roman empire was indeed synonymous with both of its official religions,yes.
>>25007343>yeah theres a cult of the founding fathers and a pseudo canon, but it just doesnt have the same vibe or weight as the early church ecumenical councilsBehold: the apotheosis of Washington.
>>25007261He was the prototype for the Finder's cult.
>>25007387The social media "leftists" who just want socialized health care have only Mamdani.The literary communists who have actually read marx see capitalism progressing as expected.
>>25007519He talks about the schools and its failures openly in his autobiography. there certainly was no pedophilia there, I imagine that news clipping is simply trying to be sensational, just as modern reactionary media does.
Did Russell ever contribute anything of value to the sciences or philosophy?
>>25007536he literally invented type theory in logic
>>25007034This is true and it is not a bad thing.
i personally don't think it's very useful or insightful to view Marxism as a religion, but i recommend this cool talk on an early Bolshevik theorist who thought otherwise: www.edmundgriffiths.com/lunacharsky.html
>>25007034>“The principles of the Sermon on the Mount are admirable, but their effect upon average human nature was very different from what was intended. Those who followed Christ did not learn to love their enemies or to turn the other cheek. They learned instead to use the Inquisition and the stake, to subject the human intellect to the yoke of an ignorant and intolerant priesthood, to degrade art and extinguish science for a thousand years. These were the inevitable results, not of the teaching, but of fanatical belief in the teaching. The hopes which inspire Communism are, in the main, as admirable as those instilled by the Sermon on the Mount, but they are held as fanatically, and are likely to do as much harm.”Berty wrote this in 1920. Prescient as always
>>25007542Sounds like a bunch of useless blarney.
>>25007034And that's what makes it BASED.>>25008379Absolutely nothing prescient about this, this line of thinking is used against every single political movement under the sun.>what if something good, rational and justified is actually... le harmful to our society?
>>25008420Its prescient because already in 1920 Bertie understood that Bolshevik dogmatism and cruelty will lead to disaster and suffering instead of the utopia that the Bolsheviks promised. It took most socialist in the West decades to realize where all of it was heading. And many wouldn't disavow the Soviet regime even after Holodomor, Budapest in 1956 and Prague in 1968.
>>25008379russell was a member of the aristocracy and didn't like communism because he had to put up with a bunch of boorish russian emigres shitting up dinner parties, trying to borrow money and generally reminding him just how useless his class really was
>>25007195Nice try, OP. You're not fooling anybody.
