99% of what he says has been completely debunked by modern psychology and the 1% that hasn't been has already been absorbed into modern psychology
>>25008813No. He was an important figure in the field but there is no need to wade through his bullshit.
No not at all. The only people who read him are Marxists for some reason
>>25008818>important bullshitter in the field of bullshittell me about your mother..
>>25008813Yeah, right OP. Just read what (((((modern psychology)))) has to say, don't even bother looking at the source material. You don't even know what they don't want you to know.
>>25008813>modern psychology>replication crisispick both
>>25008840Sigmund Freud
>>25008840Freud was both modern and Jewisg
It looks like most people here haven't read Freud.His essays on art ("The Moses of Michelangelo") and the Uncanny ("Das Unheimliche") are must reads and relevant even today. Freud was ahead of his time in many respects, and a lot of his essays remain valid and important.I agree, however, that his psychoanalysis of shit like dreams are mostly hokum that can be disregarded.
>>25008899>valid >ahead of his timeKamala will never be president
>>25008813Joan Riviere's translation of Freud are highly readable, and if you do decide to read them (unlike the overwhelming majority of people who are highly critical of him), then I think you'll find yourself, if not agreeing with him on certain points, sympathetic to his ideas as a whole. We all know about the Oedipus Complex, but can anyone educated in psychology today explain to you or I why someone, like Collin Maguire, has a diaper fetish? Can they explain to you why, in precise terms, males generally behave sadistically towards women they're attracted to? None of it is as insane if you start at the beginning and work your way up.
>>25008899Random anon passing through the front page who hasn‘t read Freud. Why should I take the two works you mentioned seriously?
>>25008916Nor should she. Irrelevant, btw.>>25008932Then don't take them seriously. I don't give a shit, because it's your loss.
>>25008944>These two works are important>Elaborate on that>NoLel
Yes but only if you are interested in the mind of the white man
>>25008961He was Jewish
>>25008956You didn’t ask for elaboration. You asked why you, personally, should take the works seriously. Such a juvenile and self-centered question is not worth taking seriously, itself.
>>25009005Your assertion was that the works should be taken seriously. Asking why is elaboration.
>>25009010You didn’t ask why.
>>25008982Difference without distinction
>>25009013There is a firm distinction because Jews identify with their ethnicity more than their whiteness and most of the Jews in the world are Arab.
>>25009019Every jew I see looks like a white person, talks like a white person, acts like a white person and wants to be as far away from brown people as possible. Jews are whites who think they are special.
>>25008982Have you not encountered the concept of learning by contrast?
What an awful thread
>>25009026Jews have a very distinct culture and way of talking that evolved out of being excluded from WASP society, at least educated Jews, and it arose is clear distinction from white society. That's why Larry David's caricature of himself in Curb your Enthusiasm gets peevish and says he wanted to be around Jews, although he ultimately is excommunicated by then for eating at the Palestinian restaurant
>>25008813What would Freud say about my lifelong erotic fascination with watching women urinate?
>>25009044Unironically that you are stuck in a toddler state of mind.
>>25009012>Why should I take the two works you mentioned seriously?
>>25008840>don't even bother looking at the source materialSigmund Freud is not source material for anything in modern psychology. Though distilled "psychology" that has no statistical backup is certainly slop. I only read some neurobiology based essays that actually make references to studies.
>>25008813>99% of what he says has been completely debunked by modern psychologyThat seems hard to say. I'm not sure how much of his work has actually been debunked, surely some things, but it's mostly dismissed out of hand, perhaps sometimes for good reasons, but usually it's because it isn't practiced like mathematical physics.
>>25009072it's not even like there's anything to debunk it's all kind vibes based stuff which may or may not have some insights for literary theory
>>25009050What did he mean by this?
>>25009076It's deboonked chud
>>25009076Psychoanalysis is the study of vibes
>>25009036Chuds getting cooks across the board, lashing out.
>>25008944>Nor should she.You sound like you're probably an insufferable Trot.
>>25008813Take the time to actually read through Freud, from then Jung, and then Lacan. Lacan is the culmination of the Freudian project and modern "psychology" is a crock of shit. The arc bends towards back to Freud at the end of the day.
>>25009104Very wrong. Read Spinoza
>>25009749You obviously want to fuck your mother and kill your father.
major shift happening leave while you canundergrad freudian girlies are becoming jungian witches en massegreat merging of mbti femcels, tarot witches, and hormonal psych majorscollective unconscious leaking into group chatsdream journals replacing notes appscrazy happenings soonomens vague, vibes undeniable
>>25008813>completely debunked by modern psychologyyou mean that thing that defines insanity as not fitting into liberal society?
>>25009786Will this make it easier or harder for me to stick my dick in them? Please answer, this question is vitally important.
psychoanalisis is literally the complete zeitgeist of the XX century and this current century too. its awful therapy but wonderful sociology.
>>25009044>>25009087As an infant, everyone passes through the stages of sexual development, but since they occur as a child, as prepubescent, it is more a fascination or satisfaction with elimination. But if something obstructs development psychologically, you can become fixated on that act even as the rest of your sexuality develops, meaning you have a literal complex, a fetish. Often it is some kind of trauma or abuse, but other times it is a less intense form of interference which prevents the individual from moving on to more normative sexual interest. Often delving into the origin of the fixation can help unclog the sexual psyche and begin to move on and grow, but it becomes very difficult as an adult.
>>25008813If modern psychology condemns something, that is rather a badge of honor. Such is the case here since Freud is perhaps the most insightful man to ever examine the human mind.
>>25009778You've never read Freud, have you?
>>25008828kek
>>25008813He is fun to read but he is also dangerous for yourself. There is a reason why the mind hides things from us.
>>25009793Psychology defines insanity as not fitting into your own culture and local values. They're generally liberal in the West but for example society wouldn't say cutting off your own finger to appease ghosts is insane if that is the normal custom and belief of your society
>>25009005Truly it’s hard to witness you make your blatant lack of rhetorical skill the fault of a man asking a simple question. Why so cagey?
>>25009988Everything but Jung is complete garbage.
>>25009026Are you, by any chance, Jewish?Jews have lived as separate communities amongst Europeans for centuries. They have markedly different dispositions to an array of genetic diseases. They have a markedly distinct culture that can't be clustered with any European national culture. Jews switched to the "fellow whites, lets us ally against browns" line only because Israel is threatened presently.You are likely either a disingenuous Jew, or just aren't paying attention.
>>25010536>Heine and Mendelssohn weren't white
>>25010495that's utterly retarded
>me on the left (wanting to fuck my mom)>everyone else itt on the right
>>25008899>The Moses of MichelangeloI just read this based on your recommendation and it is not a must read. It's basically a blogpost before wordpress or substack existed.
>>25008813read someone like Mischel who is the reigning authority on personality and ALIVE if you had to choose someone i guess. as a psychfag i instantly disregard anything anybody says in real life if i meet someone and they randomly bring up Freud.
>>25011271>The Marshmallow Test: Mastering Self-Control by Walter Mischel explains how the ability to delay gratification, famously studied in his Marshmallow Test, is crucial for success and can be learned.Instantly disregarded.
>>25008818Even this view is too generous and is largely the result of Freud's intentional self aggrandizement.Freud did not invent the ego or the unconscious and he was always a blight on actual psychology.
>>25009102Trump won, sissy. Get over it.
>>25008899I read them, and they're interesting, but only if you consider Freud himself an interesting figure and want to understand him. His analyses are too fringe based on psychoanalytic theory to take seriously.
>>25010404But my sexuality isn't halted or anything like thatDo you think I don't like seeing women naked otherwise or something?I'm starting to wonder if this Freud dude knew what he was talking about...
