Exploitative gore porn with mediocre, sloppy style. Never trust anyone who loves this book. The Judge is too unrealistic to be scary and his philosophy is idiotic. No insight is this book. Just a surface of garish gore. This would be okay as a neutral aesthetic experience but the Indians become just material for the readers experience of the grandeur of violence. There is no sympathy involved.
Joyce once said in reference to Dostoevsky, excusing his artistic defects, that violence was the very breath of literature. Subtle minds will realize that McCarthy still fails this test, since the breath of violence is here just meaningless wind.
>>25009680I finished it today. I thought it was okay. It had some great lines and some good environmental descriptions, but I wasn't too invested in the characters or story. And it was kind of repetitive as well.
It‘s wild how infectious a disease realism in art is, that its adherents think a work not following the formula is an inherent fault.
>>25009695I will grant that - and it's popularity is not a complete fluke. I described its style as >mediocre, sloppybut I have read enough great stylists to know 1st rate from second, third, forth rate, and McCarthy is at best at times second rate
>>25009715That would be a fair point. The problem is McCarthy himself uses the realist, journalistic style of only providing surfaces. The unrealistic, superhuman characters of Shakespeare demonstrate rich interiority. The Judge has no interiority, therefore he needs to feel realistic to be compelling within the nature of McCarthy's art.
>>25009680I always found The Road to be leagues above any of his other work.
Damn this thread is a den of midwits and retards
>>25009686You mean midwits? Smart people realize that any passion in violence is just delusion, which is why the book doesn't deal with it. A lot of your problems will be resolved if you take the book for what it is than wanting it to be like all the other garbage you read
>>25010087>A lot of your problems will be resolved if you take the book for what it isIts trash on it's own. Absolute trash.
>>25009717>but I have read enough great stylists to know 1st rate from second, third, forth rate, and McCarthy is at best at times second rateWhat stylists? It seems you can't deal with prose that doesn't satisfy your arbitrary and retarded criteria.>>25009724Nietszche said all the depth is on the surface. And you must be really poorly read if you think that a highly visual, impressionistic style is literary realism. Shakespeare's interiority is literary realism. So is Tolstoy's and Flaubert's. Realism in literature is built on acceptance that the characters in the book you are reading are something akin to real people with functioning brains and feelings. And they are presented as such. Shakespeare does the exact opposite of what you are saying. He writes even the less believable characters "realistically" by writing their inner lives and making them relatable to average readers like yourself. McCarthy doesn't do that. That's why the character of Holden sticks out. He has a commanding presence that doesn't rely on any of the crutches of literary characterization in a post-Hamlet world.You tripped on the very first hurdle of the book. You should read more and come back and reread this book again. But I am positive that you are gonna be all angry and butthurt now to listen to me in earnest.
>>25009680>This would be okay as a neutral aesthetic experience but the Indians become just material for the readers experience of the grandeur of violence. There is no sympathy involved.Stick to shonen
>>25010092No, anon. You're just retarded. Your first instinct is to hate things you are incapable of understanding. It's all just ego preservation.
>>25010110Nietzsche wouldn't touch this book with prongs lol. McCarthychuds are delusional. This is just sloppy American hackery. What sick part of yourself needs so this so desperately to be considered art>There were in the camp a number of Mexican slaves and these ran forth calling out in spanish and were brained or shot and one of the Delawares emerged from the smoke with a naked infant dangling in each hand and squatted at a ring of midden stones and swung them by the heels each in turn and bashed their heads against the stones so that the brains burst forth through the fontanel in a bloody spew and humans on fire came shrieking forth like berserkers and the riders hacked them down with their enormous knives and a young woman ran up and embraced the bloodied forefeet of Glanton's warhorse>So powerful. Art! You retards don't know what Art is!
It does my heart good to see McCarthy manchildren getting btfo in every thread they make.
>>25010235You wouldn't know shit about what Nietszche would or wouldn't like, retard>oooooh muh violence so edgyLol. Prudish retard.>>25010254Samefag and lol. This thread is proof to the contrary. Anti-Mccarthy fags don't have any intelligent takes so they seethe about muh violence or muh no interiority like they always do. Stop being so butthurt, ESL. It's just a book.
>>25010297>Anti-Mccarthy fagsDoesn't exist. A group of people who don't find the imagery of babies heads exploding to be beautiful cannot corralled into an undesirable category of people. Chuds like yourself can be recognized by physiognomy, even when anonymous in how you type
>>25010314>doesn't existLOL. As I said, you're a prudish anti-art retard. Art can be absolutely anything, provided it is done well. Besides, baby killing is well documented in Yuma raids and vice versa. Just because you're some limpwristed faggot who can't imagine that a world can exist outside of your basement does not mean that the world is obliged to be that way.
>>25010331What other books do you like? What's your taste in music?
>>25010331>Art can be about killing babies, IF it is done well.I wonder why Michelangelo and Wagner didn't approach this subject.
>>25010349Because it wasn't their aesthetic, retard. Nor part of their upbringing. Flannery O'Connor said that if you have lived in the south you must have known violence. That's why violence is an inherent part of the southern grotesque. BM is still an outlier because that is McCarthy's intention and imagination at work.His sensibilities are different but grotesque has long been part of modern fiction. Bataille, De Sade, Beckett etc. all dealt with some versions of it. I already know what you're gonna waffle on about next, but the simple answer to that is you have no idea what makes McCarthy’s aesthetic work to be critiquing him.
I used to have a neighbor who would come by every once in a while because we both had the same bookie and we would watch the game. He lent me a copy of Blood Meridian and told me it was the best book he had ever read. I read it and when i returned it he asked if I had liked it. I told him it was fucked up misery porn and he said that was why it was so great. I moved across town not long after and basically forgot about him until I saw him on the news because he had been arrested for raping his cousin's daughter. I consider anyone who glazes this book to be extremely sus and probably a child rapist.
>>25010403What a funny story. Him a child rapist and you a midwit retard
>>25010416Sensibility is important which is why art is life or death. Art works represent particular sensibilities which exclude that of others, and indeed call for their annihilation (something Adorno realized when he rejected the notion of a canon existing as an irreproachable pantheon that includes, in McCarthy anon's world, Michelangelo, Wagner, Samuel Becket, Marquis De Sade (who actually per Bataille's book wanted every living trace of himself, including his work, destroyed at his death), as well as gore porn--all of which needed to be respected for their respective merits, and must not be criticized lest you come off as a "retard"). I must say, the sensibility of yourself, calling people midwit retards for not liking gore porn, is not inconsistent with a tedious work of gore porn. And also with the case study of this gentleman >>25010403 has very kindly provided for us.
>>25010433That's a lot of waffle to say absolutely nothing. You think it is gore porn, I say it is history. In any educated and holistic view you're a prude and a retard who can't comprehend that art can go beyond gassy 19th century bookworms sitting at their desks and introspecting for 300 pages.You cannot say anything useful about fiction, even in critique, unless you have a strong grasp of it. And you have demonstrated that you do not, and perhaps cannot hope to.
>>25010466Your comment is contentless insult so I'm not sure what I could do to respond, other than suggesting that the insult of retard is less effective after the 100th time. I am curious however, do you believe in God or believe that there is life after death?
>>25010481I believe in your retardation
>>25010537I can rest well knowing I have done my job in demonstrating to lurking anons the psychological profile of the average Blood Meridian glazer. This has been edifying experience for all involved, I hope.
>>25010543>glazerLol. You should stick to your chinese cartoons, buddy. This muh literature facade isn't working and books aren't for someone of your intelligence.
>ctrl+f >'The black reared his head'>no results
>>25010390McCarthy wasn't a southerner. He was a pampered yankee lawyer's son.
>Book is full of gore guys!>Violence is depicted as procedural and is never lingered on before moving onNice b8 OP
>>25010867Grew up in the south nevertheless
>>25010892>pajeets who grow up in the south are southernersretardSoutherner is a distinct ethnic identity-protetants descended from anglican and dissenter british settlers who settled there in the 17th to the 18th centuries, along with black slaves.McCarthy was not a southerner.
>>25010897But you're retarded
>>25010899cope ellis islander
