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Severian gets way too much pussy for me to self insert as him, and for that reason I'm out.
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I get a lot of pussy and treat women badly while also being a strange freak so he's perfect for me
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>>25009720
Wolfe's prose is unironically denser than most litfic authors.
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Are there any other books in the a-based-retard-wanders-around-a-fantastical-setting-and-gets-pussy genre besides these?
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>>25009747
Unironically the Odyssey
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>>25009720
Unironicly this is a big turn off for me too. Any story where they get pussy for nothing
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>>25009720
The majority of sex he had was non-consensual (he was in a position of authority over Thecla, straight up raped Jolenta, etc) in case that helps.
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>>25009846
Pretty sure thecla was coming on to him to get benefits and also jolenta totally wanted it. The based retard just awkwardly made his move while she was asleep lol
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>>25009720
he's literally a schizo and making shit up, half of the events of the book literally don't happen
he frequently describes himself as having a perfect, flawless memory then contradicts himself saying that he can't recall parts of his story
he looks at a space ship and calls it a metal castle
the entire tale is not only through the lens of his own insanity but also through the lens of his own sanity
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>>25009846
Thecla was in a position of authority over his entire guild. They were in an awkward position because she was their superior but also they had orders from the highest authority that they had to obey, even if it contradicted her own orders. But for everything that didn't contradict the order for her to be imprisoned, or the later order to torture her, they deferred to her.

It's also unclear whether he actually had sex with her while she was imprisoned since that's never mentioned until after he eats her. He has difficulty separating her memories and even her fantasies from his own memories.

>>25009923
I think the times when he claims he can't remember something are mostly evasions. He does that a lot, pay attention to each time Valeria is mentioned. I think it's unlikely that he ever outright lies, but he obviously withholds things and of course everything is filtered through his own perception and understanding.
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>>25009756
Which translation is best?
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>>25010039
Idk I read Butler's prose translation and it was great. Just don't read the one by a woman, for that matter just don't ever read books by women it never goes well
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>>25009923
>he's literally a schizo and making shit up, half of the events of the book literally don't happen
I hate this reading of the book, it's the most braindead explanation and just makes the whole book shit.
>>25009957
>I think the times when he claims he can't remember something are mostly evasions.
Personally I think every time he forgets something/misremembers/gets lost means that something fucky is going on. Could be mixing up his memories with first severian/enters the corridors of time (explains getting lost in the cemetery and meeting vodalus, getting lost and entering the atrium of time).
It's also pretty clear that while his memory is perfect he doesn't have instant recall, he probably first has to remember a date or a specific moment and work out from there, and he's still limited by whatever he was paying attention to.
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>>25010531
Anything to do with the Atrium of Time is associated with Valeria, and thus Severian will avoid talking about it as much as he can without failing to address it entirely. It's safe to assume that he's intentionally leaving out a lot there.
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>>25009846
You're assuming the concept of rape exists in the future.
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Catholicism is Judaism 2.0 designed to efficiently rook the goyim out of their money and self determination.
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>>25010563
Well yes, there he does omit intentionally, like he also does in the caves with the man apes and at the wall.
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>it's a severian reads from the big brown book chapter
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A lot of it is embellished. As an example:
>Meets an older woman trying anything to escape from a fucked up prison
>Severian: damn she's in love with me
>Meets a woman transparently trying to scam him
>Severian: damn she's in love with me
>Meets a teenaged amnesiac in a bog
>Severian: yeah, we fucked. Btw don't mind the fact that she left to hang out with a bunch of theater kids, she still loves me.
>>25010531
To say half is made up is a shit reading yes, but to me the main appeal of the book is the ambiguity involved in what's true and what's not. Perfect memory (if it really is) does not mean perfect perception. Memories change with perception
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>>25009846
there was no way she was asleep, she intentionally was seducing him and made herself look vulnerable, am I crazy for thinking this is extremely obvious? And the only people that actually think it was rape was reddit
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>>25010746
>look buddy, i know you dont like these chapters



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