Severian gets way too much pussy for me to self insert as him, and for that reason I'm out.
I get a lot of pussy and treat women badly while also being a strange freak so he's perfect for me
>>25009720Wolfe's prose is unironically denser than most litfic authors.
Are there any other books in the a-based-retard-wanders-around-a-fantastical-setting-and-gets-pussy genre besides these?
>>25009747Unironically the Odyssey
>>25009720Unironicly this is a big turn off for me too. Any story where they get pussy for nothing
>>25009720The majority of sex he had was non-consensual (he was in a position of authority over Thecla, straight up raped Jolenta, etc) in case that helps.
>>25009846Pretty sure thecla was coming on to him to get benefits and also jolenta totally wanted it. The based retard just awkwardly made his move while she was asleep lol
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>>25009720he's literally a schizo and making shit up, half of the events of the book literally don't happenhe frequently describes himself as having a perfect, flawless memory then contradicts himself saying that he can't recall parts of his storyhe looks at a space ship and calls it a metal castlethe entire tale is not only through the lens of his own insanity but also through the lens of his own sanity
>>25009846Thecla was in a position of authority over his entire guild. They were in an awkward position because she was their superior but also they had orders from the highest authority that they had to obey, even if it contradicted her own orders. But for everything that didn't contradict the order for her to be imprisoned, or the later order to torture her, they deferred to her.It's also unclear whether he actually had sex with her while she was imprisoned since that's never mentioned until after he eats her. He has difficulty separating her memories and even her fantasies from his own memories.>>25009923I think the times when he claims he can't remember something are mostly evasions. He does that a lot, pay attention to each time Valeria is mentioned. I think it's unlikely that he ever outright lies, but he obviously withholds things and of course everything is filtered through his own perception and understanding.
>>25009756Which translation is best?
>>25010039Idk I read Butler's prose translation and it was great. Just don't read the one by a woman, for that matter just don't ever read books by women it never goes well
>>25009923>he's literally a schizo and making shit up, half of the events of the book literally don't happenI hate this reading of the book, it's the most braindead explanation and just makes the whole book shit.>>25009957>I think the times when he claims he can't remember something are mostly evasions.Personally I think every time he forgets something/misremembers/gets lost means that something fucky is going on. Could be mixing up his memories with first severian/enters the corridors of time (explains getting lost in the cemetery and meeting vodalus, getting lost and entering the atrium of time).It's also pretty clear that while his memory is perfect he doesn't have instant recall, he probably first has to remember a date or a specific moment and work out from there, and he's still limited by whatever he was paying attention to.
>>25010531Anything to do with the Atrium of Time is associated with Valeria, and thus Severian will avoid talking about it as much as he can without failing to address it entirely. It's safe to assume that he's intentionally leaving out a lot there.
>>25009846You're assuming the concept of rape exists in the future.
Catholicism is Judaism 2.0 designed to efficiently rook the goyim out of their money and self determination.
>>25010563Well yes, there he does omit intentionally, like he also does in the caves with the man apes and at the wall.
>it's a severian reads from the big brown book chapter
A lot of it is embellished. As an example:>Meets an older woman trying anything to escape from a fucked up prison>Severian: damn she's in love with me>Meets a woman transparently trying to scam him>Severian: damn she's in love with me>Meets a teenaged amnesiac in a bog>Severian: yeah, we fucked. Btw don't mind the fact that she left to hang out with a bunch of theater kids, she still loves me. >>25010531To say half is made up is a shit reading yes, but to me the main appeal of the book is the ambiguity involved in what's true and what's not. Perfect memory (if it really is) does not mean perfect perception. Memories change with perception
>>25009851>>25009846there was no way she was asleep, she intentionally was seducing him and made herself look vulnerable, am I crazy for thinking this is extremely obvious? And the only people that actually think it was rape was reddit
>>25010746>look buddy, i know you dont like these chapters
>>25010746This is the pleb who thought Long Sun was better.
>>25010915This unironically made the story book chapters based for me. I still hated them, but the author saying he knows I might hate it and he is going to do them anyways himself is fair enough.
>>25010754I think Severian himself says something along the lines of "some may say I raped her" in Urth, lol.>>25009923He's a little insane for sure (why the fuck did he think Miles was Jonas?), but I think he's mostly just retarded. Would you be able to identify a big metal tower people live in as a spaceship if you've never seen a rocket before? What if the spacecraft your world does have just look like ordinary boats? Severian, like the reader, has no idea what the fuck is going on most of the time, partly because he's naive/autistic in a lot of ways, and partly because he's constandly being pushed around by either time travelling aliens or dollar-store Cthulhu and friends behind the scenes.
>>25010752I think you're right, but women also love bad boys and serial killers. Brooding shirtless fuligin man who kills people for a living and solves most of his problems through decapitation is going to be irresistible. I genuinely think Dorcas loved him, though. She followed him all the way to Thrax and was just this side of being his wife for a while. She only left because she regained her memories, and parting was clearly painful for her.
he fucked his grandma dudehe fucked his grandma and it was the best sex he ever had
>>25010754It's very obvious she's one of those women for whom sex is her most optimized and utilized form of communication. It is indeed an overly fragile response to adopt the pathological assumption that it must be rape because of "vulnerability". This marxist-tier idea is not only entirely dismissable, one could just as easily torture (heh) it to extend to her treatment of Severian as well.
One of the funniest things about Severian for me is his attitude toward romance in general. He has this maximally adolescent attitude that every single woman he was ever attracted to was in some way a destined fragment of his unique infinitely beautiful love and it was the realest purest most spiritual love like no one else has ever ever known or could know before.This extends to a lot of his personality, really. He say he never forgets, and this does seem to apply to facts, but he forgets very easily whenever he comes to major life-changing decisions in outlook and behavior.
>>25011693>he fucked his grandma and it was the best sex he ever had[citation needed]
>>25011740i don't recall him describing any sex as ever being better than the pedo-adjacent sex he had with his grandmahe really, REALLY wanted to fuck agia, but never got to sink it into his fellow incest enjoyer
>aw damn gramgram you lookin fiiine like a twelve year ol, my dick is fuligin, the hardness harder than diamonds
>>25011745>pedo-adjacentisn't he like 16 when he departs nessus?
>>25009726In what ways do you treat them badly?
