How true is this? And what would be the best (either highest quality or most illustrative) examples of each?
Name one for men's romance that isn't an anime.Not trying for a gotcha, would like a recommendation.
>>25010797have a look at r/haremfantasynovels or r/Romance_for_menthere's an absolute fuckton of harem romance novels for men out there, but these subreddits are pretty good at highlighting the best ones
>>25010805The best according to reddit. Going back soon?
>>25010816retard
>>25010816>The best according to reddit.What? Do you expect to find some sort of better and more "high brow" harem smut on /lit/? LOL. It's fucking porn, dude.
women's erotica:>i'm going to reduce you to an animalmen's erotica:>i'm going to reduce you to an animal
>>25010837I presume you speak from experience.
>>25010844the verdict:Animals fucking
Gemini 3 Pro:>How "true" is this?The "Women's Romance" side:This refers to the "Dark Romance" or "Enemies to Lovers" subgenres. Statistically, "Dark Romance" is one of the fastest-growing categories on platforms like Kindle and TikTok (BookTok). The appeal usually isn't about domestic violence, but rather the psychological thrill of "taming" a dangerous man or the fantasy of being so desired that a man would discard morality for the protagonist. It focuses on intensity, danger, and submission/power dynamics.The "Men's Romance" side:This refers to the "Harem" or "Protector/Provider" tropes common in Isekai (portal fantasy) anime, light novels, and "Men’s Adventure" fiction. The fantasy here is often about competence, utility, and being needed. The male protagonist is often a "hero" who gathers a "family" of women whom he protects, providing a sense of stability and unconditional appreciation that many men feel they lack in the real world.Part 2: Examples of "Women's Romance" (The Dark/Danger Trope)These examples illustrate the "dangerous man/intense obsession" dynamic shown in the top panel.Highest Quality (Classic): Wuthering Heights by Emily BrontëHeathcliff is the "OG" dark hero. He is cruel, vengeful, and destructive, yet his obsession with Catherine remains the archetype for the "dangerously romantic" hero.Most Illustrative (Modern Dark Romance): Haunting Adeline by H. D. CarltonThis is a "Cat and Mouse" duet where the love interest is a literal stalker. It perfectly mirrors the "I'm going to kill you / Harder" vibe of the meme, focusing on extreme obsession and "dark" consent.Fantasy/Mainstream: A Court of Thorns and Roses (ACOTAR) by Sarah J. MaasWhile more "mainstream," the series thrives on "High Lords" who are terrifying, powerful, and potentially lethal, but "soft" only for the protagonist.Part 3: Examples of "Men's Romance" (The Harem/Protector Trope)These examples illustrate the "I will take care of you all" dynamic shown in the bottom panel.Highest Quality (Storytelling): Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation (Light Novel/Anime)While controversial, it is the gold standard for this trope. The protagonist, Rudeus, eventually marries three different women and views his primary life's work as protecting them, providing for them, and being a "family man."Most Illustrative (Western Men's Adventure): The Wheel of Time by Robert JordanThe protagonist, Rand al'Thor, has a romantic arc involving three women (Min, Elayne, and Aviendha). Much of his internal conflict involves his desire to protect them from the dangers of his world, while they support him in his destiny.The "Literal" Meme Example: Logan Jacobs or Eric Vall novelsThese are prolific self-published authors who write specifically for the "Men’s Romance" market. Their books (like Monster Girl Islands) almost always involve a capable man building a home/base and "taking care of" a growing harem of women with various traits (like the cat-girl in the meme).
>>25010791>How true is this? Absolutely not true. I started reading women's romance content because bdsm stuff targetted toward men is manchild autism.I was greatly disappointed when even the "dark stuff" is just "I got the highest status man to grovel before my feet and worship me like a Goddess because of how much he loves me".>most illustrativeThe Fall Risk by Abby Gimenez, imho.You can go through it in a day, easily.Generally anything from her is cookie cutter romance content.>highest qualityColleen Hoover, although women hate her because her male characters rage from your average socially retarded autistic bloke to straight up sociopathic manipulative freaks. She is an incredibly talented writer though.I'd say that the most fun I had reading a romance was Neva Altaj. Check the Perfectly Imperfect series for that.If you are a pretentious fag, then Irene Nemirovsky.>>25010797>Name one for men's romance that isn't an anime.The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss. But that's because I like the femme fatale archetype.
>>25010855>ragerange*>>25010837The only time I asked the mtf general on /lgbt/ for a romance rec, they didn't even know what the fuck I was talking about.
>>25010844yes, but woman wants the jungle law while man wants to pet and animal wifery animalization of woman.
>>25010855troon out already tripfag.
>>25010860They're men, what did you expect?
>>25010797Hero of Our Time :^)
>>25010791No. Men love violent, dominating girls that still love them.Most submissive masochists are male.
50 Shades of Grey >an abusive millionaire into S&M psychologically and physically abuses office lady Twilight>a millionaire murdering 100+ year old virgin stalks, psychologically abuses, and drives a teenage girl to suicide multiple times, and literally fucks her to death so she can be reborn as a vampire with magic powers. A Court of Thorns Roses >a girl is abducted and psychologically abused by a fairy in his magic castle that is totally not a ripoff of Belle et la bête. Culminates in her getting physically tortured by his exgirlfriend and breaking every bone in her body so she can get reincarnated as a super fairy with all the fairy powers. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs>a guy who can see ghosts befriends no less than 20 girls. He treats each girl with kindness and respect, but sometimes he sees them naked, oh no! Ranma 1/2 A guy who wants to be a kung fu master befriends a bunch of girls who are also into kung fu. They go through wacky tournaments and vacations together. He never does anything sexual towards the girls but oh no, sometimes he sees them naked! To Love Ru I dont know what the plot of this one is. I think the girls are succubi? The author based the best character off his own wife.
>>25010791>another thread about women's porn. Damn you, OP
>>25010894>Why aren't you putting on a dress and self inflict gynecomastia??Troon mentality. Go back grooming kids on Discord.>>25010895I expected that they got groomed because they were playing with dolls and reading Twilight.They say they are "a woman trapped in a man's body". I thought they have some reason for claiming that.They fucking play HoI4 and jerk off to loli porn. I thought it was just a meme, because unless you misgender them (and with those interests no one is going to call them "she") how are they supposed to discover they are a "woman trapped in a man's body"?The funny thing is that they are the only ones who seethe about gender non conformity. I've never had in my entire life someone who wasn't a tranny (or who would troon out) hate men who read romance novels.
>>25010791It's not true at all because you cannot reduce two sets of approximately 4 billion people each to a single pair of ideals.Frankly I would have thought you'd have been at least intelligent enough to understand that if you deign to post on the literature board, but here we are.
>>25011000Why are you using a name?>>25011293You can make generalisations a useful part of your internal model, and be willing to update them for individuals who deviate from that model. Obviously not every single man or woman fits that description, but you can observe trends.Without making generalisations like that, you might as well just throw up your hands and say "everything happens at random" because you are so concerned about potentially being wrong in the minority of cases.
>>25010791It's true. I know multiple women who have admitted to me that they like being hurt and dominated, and submissive men being a turnoff. One girl even said that being killed by her lover would be hot.
>>25011512Also I should say. 0 women have admitted to me that they like to dominate men or anything else. And these are all random women I've known.
Women fantasize about getting fucked by high-T men, men fantasize about women adoring them for being low-T. The cartoon might be extremely reductionist but it conveys this fundamental truth
>>25010791women's romance>"Dear reader I married him*"*old, blind, ugly, house burned down, crazy ex wifemen's romance>Story of the Eye, Hogghmmm
>>25010791Not true at all. It’s a silly comic but if anyone took it as fact they would be dumber for it
>>25011647>oldNot really.>blindHe regains his sight.>uglyNot really.>house burned downHe's still wealthy.>crazy ex wifeShe's dead.
>>25010805>there's an absolute fuckton of harem romance novels for men out there, but these subreddits are pretty good at highlighting the best onesI feel like 0 men read this shlock and it's all dykish lesbians and FTMs.
>>25010791Low quality gay thread. Women's romance is just le man either "gives up thing for me" or "does thing for me" and taken to the extreme. It appeals to their self-centeredness and their envy of man being master of the universe. Men's romance is simply the projection of the desire to understand the mysteries of women.
>>25010791People seek relief from the experiences they're deprived of by simulating it to the extreme