Almost every other major writer in Europe is boycotting IsraelNot our guy though. He says boycotting Israel reflects moral cowardice and preferring physical pleasure and ease to higher principles
Repulsive man, repulsive country. They go together like rhubarb and custard.Good books, though.
>>25020231that actually is quite french of him in a good wayhe looks insane enough to be able to pull it off
>>25020231>He says boycotting Israel reflects moral cowardice and preferring physical pleasure and ease to higher principlesWhich principles promote shooting children through the skull for fun? What about genocide?
>>25020231trad is when you don’t oppose jews pushing millions of muslims into European Christian countries? K
>>25020235More like, they go together like poo and pee! Ha!
>>25020285>>shooting children through the skull for funWhere did you get this from?
>>25020290Is there literally anything you far right scum don't blame Jews for?
>>25020318Do you live under a rock?
>>25020319We blame the Muslims for lots of things, too. Basically they both need to be wiped out and Jerusalem and Constantinople both need to be reconquered.
>>25020336Pathetic schizo mindset. Improve yourself or you won't make it to Heaven.
>>25020231I have a theory - that I developed after years of interacting with people on the 4chans - that the logical end of pathological contrarianism is something that is indistinguishable from common stupidity. This is a solid proof of that.
>>25020354Houlelhack posts on 4chan?
>>25020231>Muslim hating Europeans and loving jews/Israelan inseparable unity
>>25020331I'm serious. I want to know.
>>25020379you are allowed to pick between being an antisemite or an islamophobe but not both
>>25020567how about no middle eastern semites/turk/kurds/persians/etc. at all?Can we have no middle eastern influence please?
>>25020556The fact you are acting obtuse two years into a genocide means you are not serious.
>>25020606The fact that you're antisemitic just because it's hip means you are not serious
>>25020614Point out where I was antisemitic or no more (you)s
>>25020616Yeah, blood libel is pretty fucking antisemitic
>>25020231Mike was always a zionist, though. Not knowing that is like not knowing that Foucault was a homosexual P-word.
>>25020643Upvoted. Let israel keep its tradition of slaughtering children.
>>25020643>Uhhh so yeah, you're a child of amalek and i should be able to kill you so erm... yeah. That's a thing my guy.
>>25020643Why don’t you quote the antisemitic part?
I love to read literature from the days when Israel didn't exist. It was such a peaceful time.
>>25020653Foucault disliked identifying as a homosexual because he said making sexual preferences as a categorical identity was invented by modernity. Calling him a pedophile probably wouldn't bother him however
I thought this nigga was dead
>>25020724Sulemoni is the one who is dead Ahmed, lol
>>25020643Try not to kill any additional children while people are filing paperwork to demonstrate the children Israel‘s been killing for the past 2 years
>>25020606You are saying that someone was shooting children through the skull for fun. That's an unimaginable level of violence and inhumanity. Such accusations should have some source, otherwise it just sounds like nonesence.
>>25021112Why is it antisemitic? You keep trying to weasel out of backing up your statement.
>>25021223I was not saying anything about antisemitism, that's probably another anon. I just want to understand where did you get this information from.
>>25021281You aren't familiar with the video of that little girl who was shot through the face by the IDF and then hung by her entrails?
>>25021112You are so naïvehttps://youtu.be/8eIe2LbjFt8
Some people are "progressive except Palestine"The user base of /lit/ is progressive only for Palestine
>>25021306Just because /lit/ rejects the culture of resentment and hatred of creations and accomplishments of white men, and because we're not interested in reading works from totally different times and cultures in order to pass moral judgement on the characters, doesn't mean we aren't progressive. Most of /lit/ would not support outlawing homosexuality or enforcing segregation, most of /lit/ supports socialized heathcare. And some of /lit/ is outright Marxist. If you say /lit/ is against immigration, well so were Mexican American labor unions under Cesar Chavez because he said it would lower wages and make housing prices go up
>>25021285War sucks, innocent people will always die, it's unavoidable. The only thing we can do is not start wars. Hamas keeps starting wars. Israel doesn't want war
>>25021306Hello Mr Prager, huge honour to meet you here!
>>25020231when will his event in this festival take place? let's hear your man out before we judge that Zemmour supporting, porn actor/singer, waifu enjoying incel author, alright?
>>25021329Yeah they just want them to roll over and die quietly for Greater Israel.
>>25020231Wonder what they're blackmailing him with
>>25021415come to think of it, that porn video he got tricked into by this troll group that he still fights in court comes to mind
Cursed, bait thread.
>>25021306Wow it's like KFC for Chicken am i rite fellow goyim? If you don't think israel's thousand year war against children, bombing children, kidnapping children off the street and out of orphanages, raping children, selling children to western elites to be raped and eaten, shooting children in front of their parents, shooting parents in front of the children, cutting children's genitals and sucking out the blood, mutilating children, forcing children into mutilating themselves, trafficking in organ meat of children, requiring elites to sacrifice their children to join the club, and celebrating a yearly holiday commemorate killing all the firstborn children in egypt and stealing all their stuff is based, then you're basically the Woke Right. Also Jews are actually some of the most outspoken voices against Israel now, a mere two years into the definitely-not-a childcaust, so if you want to do something go listen to their podcast and smash that like button.
>>25021467How old are you? 20? It's amazing how throughly Zoomers have gulped down and emotionally invested in the narrative on Palestine.
>>25021306>The user base of /lit/ is progressive only for PalestineThere's anti-zionism, and there's Anti-Zionism. The latter is not 'progressive' by any definition.
>>25022009Being against ethno nationalism is fairly progressive
>>25021415Its not blackmailing. He's just in for the ride because he hates muslims kek
>>25022046Well, than and because his other porn tape had a girl below the French AoC. He makes it clear over and over and over and over and over and over in his books that he thinks the most important thing in life is fucking underage girls whether through sex tourism or Islam lowering the age of consent. The emptiness is because it doesn't replicate the experience of being the same age as the girl you're fucking
>France literally being destroyed by Muslim thirdies >literary class largely protected from this fact>"let them eat cake" mentality to working class French dealing with it directly...>Hamas is known for terror attacks and human shields>Palestinians democratically elect Hamas and give them a mandate>Hamas does a terror attack and uses them as human shields Houellebecq is 100% right.
>>25022009Turns out that people are generally appalled by child sacrifice
>>25022310Hell yeah super based let the jews destabilize the middle east! More refugees to Europe you say? Uhmmm well as long as they're kicking muslim butt in the holy land then deus vult!
>>25022310What >>25022435 saidIsrael's plan for when they clear out Gaza is to send mega refugees to EuropeNot to mention Israel basically created Hamas by suppressing all the rational Palestinian parties
>>25022497Realistically, doesn't that make sense? Israel is the size of New Jersey, they can't accommodate refugees on the same scale as a whole continent
>>25022500They could just not do the heckin ethnic cleansing, but what do I know
>>25022504You say that without realizing how dangerous Palirats are and how Jews coexisting with them represents a constant land scarcity and existential threat
>>25022505They could just go back to Brooklyn if they're afraid lol
>>25022500Why does not a single person from the territories they’re bombing get refugee status (let alone citizenship) in Israel? Millions of people displaced in pro-israel forever wars yet they all get shoved into Europe instead.
>>25022510ESL
>>25022505‘Palirats’ are so dangerous that Israel decided to let nearly 1 million settlers squat outside of Israeli borders, within the territory of said ‘rats’. Also if they are dangerous why is Israel demanding Western nations take them in? Perfectly logical indeed.
>>25022511I know you’re mad, jood.
>>25022513Uh, you don't understand, goy, what applies to us chosen people doesn't apply to you filthy animals, and that land and all those adrenal glands were promised to us 3,000 years ago.
>>25022513They're dangerous specifically to Jews because they all have JDS
>>25022523>women won't have sex with me because of DA JOOOOOOOOOZ!!!!!1111
>>25022525>>25022534Two clear cases of true derangement. Go back to /pol/. You glow.
>>25022538>You glow.You are a delusional faggot, Trump is the only president we've ever had who's stood up to the deep state
>>25022310>Muh immigrants!There’s something called a demographic crisis. Too few white people can fulfill labor demands, so the government imports third-worlders to keep the economy running. Remember LTV (the Labor Theory of Value). Immigrants provide both use value and exchange value, which allows businesses to keep operating and helps GDP remain stable or even improve.This is a matter of survival. Also, why don't you have balls to blame your women? Demographic crisis has something to do with feminism. White women have no sense of obligation to build family since they perceive it as a direct attack toward their autonomy.>Muh Hamas!Hamas is not a terrorist organization. Insurgency for collective self-defense is justified under article 51 of UN Charter.
>>25020231>OH NO OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
>>25022552Pottery
>>25022546>Too few white people can fulfill labor demands, so the government imports third-worlders to keep the economy running.The fact that we have double-digit youth unemployment in western nations is proof enough you're a moron. Maybe, just a hunch, we could get teenagers to work at Tim Hortons and on the family farm instead of importing Patel and his thirty brothers? That's what we did before mass immigration and global supply chains, and guess what, it worked out just fucking fine because, at the end of the day, there's no such thing as a labour shortage, only a shortage of people willing to be exploited. Economic dumping applies to labour, too - probably the most essential, but never-discussed commodity and industrial input.
>>25022539>Glowing intensifies
>>25022561>Trooning while masturbating to Kamala intensifies
>>25022559Double-digit unemployment among white people doesn’t disprove my point. Capital imports third-worlders because they are cheaper and more controllable than local labor, and they better serve value extraction under capitalism.Do white people even have the willingnes, especially, to work menial jobs and get paid less?
>>25022572Who opened the borders? Who are barbara roche and straw (UK), lippmann (Australia), Celler (US), Barbara Spectre (Sweden), Kohn (Norway), Shatter (Ireland)? Qui?
>>25023079"Lippmann used his simultaneous membership in the numerous organizations and committees that made submissions to the Committee on Community Relations to ensure that his own (and the Jewish community’s) views prevailed in the committee’s final report. Essentially Lippmann was using organizational sock-puppets to make submissions to the government committee that he himself chaired. Under this arrangement, the recommendations of the committee inevitably represented the views of Lippmann and the Australian Jewish community.""In practical effect, the passing of the Racial Discrimination Bill in 1975 was the Australian equivalent of the drastic rewriting of American immigration law in 1965. In both cases, the gates were opened to non-White immigrants from the Third World with racial and cultural backgrounds very different from the majority European-derived population. In her book Ideology and Immigration the Australian sociologist Katharine Betts states that the dismantling of the White Australia policy was the result of an elite conspiracy: “Public resistance,” she notes, “was circumvented by the use of administrative procedures and secrecy rather than open debate.” The final phase of the abolition, which involved the enactment of Racial Discrimination Act by the Whitlam government, was “a political victory” for the cosmopolitan elite, which while failing to convert White Australia’s supporters “by reason and evidence,” left them “unconverted but outmaneuvered.”
>>25022568Boring. Monkey see, monkey do, Jew? Now have the last word, because you can’t glow without it.
>>25022546>There’s something called a demographic crisisWe don't have one. Go the fuck home. >Hamas is not a terrorist organizationThey are.
>>25023184Is Israel a terrorist organisation too? Why not?
>>25020231Based. Israel is the last force for metaphysical Good in the world. Hilarious that now that they finished off the entire Houthi, Hamas, and Hezbollah leadership they decided to pull the trigger on overthrowing the Ayatollah.
>>25023188>Is Israel a terrorist organisation too?No. >Why not?It's a nation-state.
>>25022572Except unemployment is higher amongst ethnic minorities than natives
>>25023210According to your own criteria, no matter the scale or severity of cruelty and dehumanisation perpetrated by a nation-state, it cannot be described as a terrorist organisation. Does this exclusion also apply to the use of the terms 'terrorists' or 'engaging in terrorism'? What about Iran? Do you contend that a state can never properly be said to fall within such descriptions?Furthermore, how would you address the findings of the Goldstone Report, in which Richard Goldstone concluded that the purpose of Israel’s actions was to “punish, humiliate, and terrorise a civilian population”? Do you maintain that a man like Richard Goldstone possesses an inferior legal or conceptual understanding of the term 'terrorism' compared to yours?Looking forward to an answer.
>>25023203What is metaphysically good about bombing refugee camps? Or raping prisoners with hot rods?
>>25023222>According to your own criteria, no matter the scale or severity of cruelty and dehumanisation perpetrated by a nation-state, it cannot be described as a terrorist organisationNope. I pointed out Israel is a nation-state because any activities you attribute to it as being terroristic are attributable to other nation-states as well. This avoids splitting hairs over individual incidents, as retards like you are won't to do, and helps clarify terms that disingenuous people use in a manner that is nebulous and thereby useless. >Does this exclusion also apply to the use of the terms 'terrorists' or 'engaging in terrorism'? See above. >What about Iran? You mean the country that is currently shutting down its citizens ability to communicate with one another on a macroscale and turned its guns on those same citizens? Lol. >Do you contend that a state can never properly be said to fall within such descriptions?See above. >continues sperging gotcha questions that aren't even gotchasRetard.
>>25023235(You)r reply does not answer the questions posed; it only evades.First, you assert that describing Israel as a nation-state renders the question of terrorism moot because comparable acts can be attributed to other nation-states. Wrong, because the fact that other states may engage in similar conduct does nothing to establish that such conduct cannot properly be described as terrorism. At most, it implies that multiple states may be guilty of engaging in terrorism. That conclusion undermines, rather than supports, your position.Second, your claim that this “avoids splitting hairs” is revealing. The issue at hand is not one of isolated incidents but of intent and purpose. Terrorism is commonly defined, both legally and academically, by deliberate use of violence or coercion to instil fear in a civilian population for political ends. If a state’s actions meet that criterion, simply restating that the actor is a state does not refute the classification because "akhsually by definition it cannot". You're merely restating the identity of the perpetrator (and accuse me of hairsplitting).If your position is that states are definitionally incapable of terrorism, then you should be able to state and defend that principle explicitly. You have not done so. In fact, your reference to Iran is a non sequitur. The fact that Iran represses its own population does not address the conceptual question under discussion, nor does it rescue your definitional ambiguity. Why did you feel the need to type "You mean the country that is currently shutting down its citizens ability to communicate with one another on a macroscale and turned its guns on those same citizens? Lol." while you could have answered the question at hand? You also entirely 'forgot' to address the Goldstone Report or Richard Goldstone’s explicit conclusion that Israel’s actions were intended to “punish, humiliate, and terrorise a civilian population.” Either you believe Goldstone’s use of the term terrorise is legally and conceptually mistaken, in which case you should explain why, or you accept that a state can, in fact, engage in terrorism. You cannot coherently maintain both positions.Here's a challenge: name one international legal body or human rights organisation that says the blockade of Gaza is legal. Surely a legal expert like yourself would find it easy to answer that.
>>25022539>muh deep stateTrump is part of it. When did he drain the swamp? What did he actually expose at all? Poor spendings by the Biden admin? Come on nigga.
>>25023235>Nope. I pointed out Israel is a nation-state because any activities you attribute to it as being terroristic are attributable to other nation-states as well. This avoids splitting hairs over individual incidents, as retards like you are won't to do, and helps clarify terms that disingenuous people use in a manner that is nebulous and thereby useless.embarrassing post. Are you jewish?
>>25023235Ah so it’s just pure semantics then? Israel can’t perform terroristic acts because they can’t formally be classed as terrorists. Cool.
>>25023259African dodger, also known as Hit the Coon or Hit the Nigger Baby, was a carnival game played in the United States. In the game, an African American would stick his head through a curtain, and attempt to dodge objects, such as eggs or baseballs, thrown at him by players. It was a popular carnival game from the 1880s up to the 1960s. The victims often suffered serious injuries. Smaller kit-based versions of the game were also sold to be played at home.
>>25023282Is that supposed to justify the Talmud?
>>25023254>(You)r reply does not answer the questions posedIt's does but it's in a way that you don't like--I won't allow you to have free reign in framing the discussion via your own prejudice and loaded terminology. >Wrong, because the fact that other states may engage in similar conduct does nothing to establish that such conduct cannot properly be described as terrorismYou need to work on your reading comprehension as I made no such claim. I pointed out that you're going to want to cherry-pick and split hairs over individual incidents devoid of their context within wider systems. By pointing out Israel is a nation-state I've contextualized its presence as a state actor. I'm not arguing Israel can do no wrong no matter how much you want to strawman such a perception when the fact is such simplistic black/white thinking is on your end. >your position is that states are definitionally incapable of terrorismCalled it, lol.>Why did you feel the need to typeBecause I wasn't interested in that slide. >You also entirely 'forgot' to address the Goldstone ReportI don't need to address it. If you want to discuss specific elements of it you're free to add them into the discussion but the idea that some UN (lol!) report is the be all end all that qualifies all discussion is a joke. >>25023263Israel is a nation-state surrounded by hostile enemies that openly engage in terrorism. When it comes to people the saying is that you can judge someone by the company they keep and actors allied against Israel are pretty shitty.
>>25023292>Because I wasn't interested in that slide.Flamboyant. Please refrain from posting on boards with serious discussionsAlso>ignored the open question about international law and the blockadeNot 'interested' in law anymore too, all of a sudden?
>>25023296>can't respondYep, that's what I figured. >ignored the open question Your questions are mostly disingenuous, anon. You might not realize it but serious people certainly do.
>>25023292>It's does but it's in a way that you don't like--I won't allow you to have free reign in framing the discussion via your own prejudice and loaded terminology.This is cope. I've asked very simple questions and you refused to anwer them. Note that I’m a proponent of attaching value to words and therefore choose to follow legal definitions over whatever lay interpretation supply the most sympathy with ones cause. You say you are merely “contextualising” Israel as a nation-state and rejecting my “framing”, yet you still decline to articulate any criteria by which terrorism is to be identified, or to say whether a state can ever meet those criteria. Rejecting terminology is not an argument unless you replace it with a definition of your own. You have not done so.If you continue with "uhm wow... UN documents? That's just a joke!" rhetoric it simply underlines my point that you're not interested or capable of legal discussion (as if there was any doubt). I did not accuse you of saying “states can’t do terrorism because others do it”. What I did was point out that your reasoning implied that conclusion. You avoid addressing the implication by insisting you never stated it explicitly.>“By pointing out Israel is a nation-state I've contextualized its presence as a state actor.”Can a state engage in terrorism, yes or no? This was the question, you refused to answer. >I don't need to address it. If you want to discuss specific elements of it you're free to add them into the discussion but the idea that some UN (lol!) report is the be all end all that qualifies all discussion is a joke.You are not engaging with specific elements of it, in >>25023222
>>25023308What's disingenuous is refusing to answer a question and framing it as 'disingenuous' because you know you cannot answer (or perhaps are too embarrassed). If you're afraid of answering a specific question, simply state so and I'll leave that part alone.Now let's try again, shall we?>Here's a challenge: name one international legal body or human rights organisation that says the blockade of Gaza is legal. Surely a legal expert like yourself would find it easy to answer that.
>>25023308>>can't respondAt present, your position amounts to this: you reject my terminology, refuse to offer your own, decline to engage with expert usage of the term, and then claim that unanswered questions have somehow been answered. No better textbook definition of "can't respond" than that. Or should I expect wojak images pretty soon?
>>25023308You are alternating between admitting you won't respond while also accusing someone else of not responding.
>>25022435>>25022497how about we shoot the rafts instead? don't cuck.
>>25023350Shooting lifeboats? Certainly a subject Israel can tell you a thing or two about.
>>25020231>moral cowardice and preferring physical pleasure and ease to higher principlesretarded binary oppositon. physical pleasure can be a higher principle if done right.
>>25023361"Done right," requires having just about no other principles, anon. Very low bar for aspirational niggers.
>>25023313>This is copeNo you. >Note that I’m a proponent of......sperging, lol. >You say you are merely “contextualising” Israel as a nation-state and rejecting my “framing" Correct. Israel must first be understood as a state actor and any incident you want to raise must be brought up in such context. This is because Israel's actions are largely determined by the behavior of other actors, state or otherwise, and actions should always be understood as rationalized within such contexts. You can easily argue that such conditions apply to organizations like Hamas as well but, in so doing, the realization that Israel exists within a sea hostile actors is automatic. >yet you still decline to articulate any criteria by which terrorism is to be identifiedAs I've said, I'm not interested in splitting hairs over individual incidents or actions devoid of any wider context. Such is masturbatory and pointless. I'm not going to argue that any and all actions taken by Israel are pristine, simplistic black and white thinking is your purview, as the criteria for determining such morality is largely non-existent and representative of a naive way of seeing the world. >"uhm wow... UN documents? That's just a joke!"The UN is a joke, anon. It's a noble idea and all, see: symbolic, but it's ineffective and mostly just bickering. >legal discussionHow are laws enforced, anon? Does the UN have its own army or is it dependant on state-actors? Are the state actors all democratic and thereby in tune with how you're likely to justify the existence of law? Lol. >I did not accuse you of saying “states can’t do terrorism because others do it”.You did. >What I did was point out that your reasoning implied that conclusionIt doesn't. >Can a state engage in terrorism, yes or no?If I say "yes" you're going to cherry-pick individual actions and events precipitated by Israel and pretend that the fundamental aspect of that state is thereby immoral. I'm not interested in that simplistic nonsense for reasons already made clear above and in other posts. That being said, answering "no" is nonsensical. >You are not engaging with specific elements of itYou didn't give any specific elements of it. What you did is make an appeal to authority by which you pretend a UN report is the preeminent arbiter of morality when it comes to state actors. I've already given reasons as to why this is nonsensical and a naive way of viewing the world.
>>25023382>Here's a challenge: name one international legal body or human rights organisation that says the blockade of Gaza is legal.I've asked you repeatedly (and crickets still). Why won't you answer this very simple question? C'mon Mr 'Expert'. Last chance.
>>25023382>If I say "yes" you're going to cherry-pick individual actions and events precipitated by Israel and pretend that the fundamental aspect of that state is thereby immoral. I'm not interested in that simplistic nonsense for reasons already made clear above and in other posts. That being said, answering "no" is nonsensical.It's clear that you're not interested in answering yes or no questions.
>>25023235Israel's recognition as a nation is largely contingent on seeing Germany's acts as a nation state as criminal and people who carried out their state's will being worthy of death if it crossed a certain line. If we can no longer say that for Germany, Israel loses their entire moral case for existence and supporting their existence at the cost of the good will of every other state in the Middle East and entire world's Muslim population serves no strategic or diplomatic purpose
>>25023382>This is because Israel's actions are largely determined by the behavior of other actors, state or otherwise, and actions should always be understood as rationalized within such contexts. You can easily argue that such conditions apply to organizations like Hamas as well but, in so doing, the realization that Israel exists within a sea hostile actors is automatic.So what precisely about Israel's geopolitical position forces it to manufacture a famine and starve civilians, or bomb hospitals in Gaza without proof of them being 'hamas control centres' despite numerous assertions of them being so (that is, before they gave up the pretense)? What about killing medical personnel, knowing they were civilians, and then burying the evidence? Can you name your definition of 'genocide', if you have any?What about in 2018, where it was found that after peaceful protestors gathered within Gaza, Israel lined up its best snipers to kneecap children? Were those children hostile actors too and which geopolitical advantages does this give to the state you claim cannot by definition be terrorist? >One of the six snipers interviewed, identified by the name Eden, discussed his time in the Golani infantry brigade with Israeli newspaper Haaretz, and claims to remember exactly how many knees he's hit.>"You have to understand that before we showed up, knees were the hardest thing to rack up. There was a story about one sniper who had 11 knees all told, and people thought no one could outdo him. And then I brought in seven-eight knees in one day."https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-snipers-brag-about-deliberately-crippling-gaza-protesters
>>25020231Bibi is the first man on earth to restrain the judiciary and its antidemocratic control over world affairs. For that reason, he will always be based.As for the Palestine thing, it is unfortunate, but they should also really just move under a financial settlement with the joos.I can understand ties to a land, fighting for a nation or for a region even, taking Ukrainians and parking them off the Japanese coast is terrible, but dying by the thousands because you won’t move 20km south where the geography, climate, blood in the sand are all the exact same is a really really silly reason to become a martyr.
>>25023416War crimes are not war crimes when you have no other recours
>>25023423Don't be so dismissive, c'mon. Engage with my post, answer the questions.
>>25023422I feel like Trump is bringing a similar revolution to America, when an unelected, dictator judge tells him something, he sometimes just says fuck you and hopefully one day he will ignore judges altogether and just accomplish the will of the people
>>25023392>I've asked you repeatedlyI've explained to you, repeatedly, why individual cherry-picked incidents and events devoid of any wider context are moot while giving you a clear rationale that justifies my stance. I've also laid out for you the inherent problems with globally focused bodies while getting into the specifics of why your appeals to authority do not land. If you want to pretend you won a debate based on a loaded and disingenuous question, while conveniently ignoring any and all positions I've laid out and projecting such behavior onto me, you can keep it up but it certainly isn't moving the conversation forward. (The reason you can't move forward is you've been denied a monopoly on framing the discussion and are reduced to flailing around admitting you've been filtered without realizing you're admitting you've been filtered). >>25023394It's clear that you can't respond when someone calls out how you're attempting to frame a discussion and answers your questions in a way that disarms their disingenuousness.
>>25023426War sucks. Israel has their hand forced and has made this abundantly clear. "Palestinians" should learn to love their children more than they hate Jews. Golda Meir said that is all peace takes, and she was right
>>25023422>As for the Palestine thing, it is unfortunate, but they should also really just move under a financial settlement with the joos.Because if there's one thing Israel has shown since its beginning is that they don't constantly undermine and renege on agreements and accords.
>>25023437>you can never actually come to an agreement with Jews because they're treacherous liarsHope you realize that Hamas uses this antisemitic canard as a pretense to keep their own people in misery and oppression
>>25023431>wahh wahh your question is disingenuous and asking me to answer means YOU got filteredI will reduce this to a single, non-loaded question you cannot plausibly evade: is it conceptually possible, in your view, for a state to engage in terrorism, yes or no? Until you answer that, there is nothing further to discuss.
>>25023416>So what precisely about Israel's geopolitical position forces it to manufacture a famine and starve civiliansBeing engaged by a hostile actors that weaponize their constituents as if in a state of total war. Note that in the case of Hamas such constituents knowingly elected an actor that openly engaged in terrorism and had a track record of using human shields. Now, remember what I said above about cherry-picking individual events without paying due diligence to wider contexts? This is exactly what you're doing because you're incapable of having a real discussion about Israel. You're incredibly naive, anon.
>>25023447>is it conceptually possible, in your view, for a state to engage in terrorism, yes or no?I've answered that question and qualified my answer above, anon. The problem is you want me to answer "yes" with no qualification so you can engage in the behavior I've already predicted above. It's either that or you're too stupid to pick up on the glaringly obvious context clue of me having said "answering 'no' would be nonsensical".
>>25023447Read the FBI definition of terrorism. It explicitly says ILLEGAL political violence. Without that qualifier then even drone strikes would be terrorism, certainly quote unquote strategic bombing which often targets civilian neighborhoods
>>25023448>Being engaged by a hostile actors that weaponize their constituents as if in a state of total war. Note that in the case of Hamas such constituents knowingly elected an actor that openly engaged in terrorism and had a track record of using human shields.Can you point out this track record of using human shields with sources? Please do tell, as I'm once again curious whether you will a) adhere to legal definitions under international lawb) use your own muddied lay definitionsAnd if civilians are guilty for 'electing' a party, then is the 7th of October justified too? Consider that Netanyahu has been head of state for a good two decades now.>This is exactly what you're doing because you're incapable of having a real discussion about Israel. You're incredibly naive, anon.Who the fuck are you that you're trying to gaslight others into what is 'real discussion'? I explicitly stated I am in favour of using the definitions of international law. Supposedly you cannot seem to grasp why having a meta-discussion over why law is important is irrelevant here.
ITT: Jews squirm.
>>25023461Now you're simply cherrypicking definitions like from a buffet. INB4 PARAGRAPH OF COPE>>25023456>(not a single yes or no)
>>25023479Yawn the FBI definition isn't cherry picking. Antisemitism, I'm afraid, as an argument has limited appeal even if we disregard it as an obvious fallacy
>>25023484>weJews. Just say Jews.
>>25023447Notice how there's no "yes" or "no" responses. Anyways, israeli rabbi ovadia yosef said that gentiles only exist to serve jews. After he died his funeral was attended by 800 000 people, the largest in israeli history.You think these people care about honest discussion? Lmfao. What will happen next is this thread gets 404'd or hit the page limit, and the last twenty posts of so will be posters going "well here is why the law is kind of wrong..." to flagrant infractions of human rights.
>>25023466>Can you point out this track record of using human shields with sources?I can but I'm not going to. This information can be looked up via simple Google searches. >legal definitions under international lawFirst, I'm not interest in semantic arguments, anon. Second, I've qualified my responses regarding international law above and if you want to criticize these you're free to do so. >And if civilians are guilty for 'electing' a party, then is the 7th of October justified too? Again, I'm not interested in you cherry-picking individual events or actions devoid of any wider context. I'm also not interested in your one-sided moralizing and, before you project such onto me, I've already laid out that I am not arguing every single action undertaken by Israel is necessarily moral AND I've clarified why a worldview defined by such terms is naive. >Who the fuck are you that you're trying to gaslight others into what is 'real discussion'? You're not a serious person, anon. Your worldview is as simplistically one-sided as it is silly and you've proven such by your inability to incorporate wider contexts. Even after your behavior has been predicted and called out for what it is you still retreat to that same pattern. In short, you're kinda an idiot. Lol.
>>25023497>I can but I'm not going to. This information can be looked up via simple Google searches.So you have sources but they go to a different school?I'll respond to your post once you substantiate your claims. As for now: faggot.
>>25023479I answered your question twice now, anon. The problem is that you want an unqualified answer so you can engage in predictable behavior that will get us nowhere. You're also dumb given the fact you pretend there isn't a direct answer given the fact I've stated "answering 'no' would be nonsensical" twice now.
>>25023497Anon is not an idiot. He's autistic. And you're a kike.
>>25023506>So you have sources but they go to a different school?Sources are freely available via Google. This isn't Reddit and I'm not writing an academic paper, anon. >I'll respond to your post once you substantiate your claimsI don't give a fuck either way, anon. You're insignificant and have already proven yourself to be a complete retard.
>>25023508He's an idiot and you're a loser. You should start a discord together, lol.
>>25023525You're cornered, kike.
>>25023530No you.
>>25023530You're cornered, kike.
>>25023539>responds to wrong postRetard confirmed. I win.
>>25023539Misclicked. You're cornered, kike.
>>25023517and you're a kike so he wonan israeli kike on top of that kek
>>25020643>shekels deposited
>>25020231I don't understand why christians on this site hate jews, Jesus was a jew.All of the anti-semitism on this site used to be a part of some assumed anti-Illuminati deal, but when you look at the grand scheme of all of this, at the bottom it's just a complete cowardice to insult muslims. That's all that's happening here, Bataclan happened and people blame the Jews, when the terrorists are RIGHT THERE.
>>25022435this doesn't make any sense, yeah ok the jews want to destabilise the west, but who is actually doing the destabilising, the muslim refugees, so it's the muslim refugees who are doing the destabilising. The bullet kills someone, not the gun.
>>25022435That's a fundamentally wrong way of seeing things. The problem is that we allow these creatures in out of an idiotically misplaced sense of generosity, not that their quantity increases or decreases. If we were sending them all back and shooting the ones who resist, like we should be, their number would be irrelevant.I'm neither pro-Israel nor pro-Palestine, because both sides have nothing but enmity for me. Let them kill each other as far as I care.
>>25025866Jesus was a Jew but also God. Jews reject this fact while Christians accept it. That makes Jews the enemies of Christ and Christians. Muslims are a bad Christian knockoff following a phony prophet. It’s that simple.
>>25025919almost every single religion ever repeats this exact line:"and [x] was the real prophet, the only true prophet and every other prophet is blasphemy, [x] also performed miracles that no human had ever done before, they had the final word before they died and if you don't believe they did, you're going to suffer."
>>25025919Not all Christians believe that Jesus is God thoughbeit
>>25025866Bullseye. 4chan kisses Muslim ass.
welly-becky puts the T-girl's dick in his mouf
the envy I have for not being born 1,000 years into the future is the slim chance that I could experience a world that is not embroiled in petty abrahamic squabbles, which is probably why places like Japan seem to have to much peace to them.Paris could have remained the cultural centre of Europe, and perhaps the World, but they imported too many religious authoritarians, a lot of muslims in particular HATE "music", how can a community like that ever produce anything except infinity amounts of Cairo commie-blocks.
>>25020319Jews are the enemy o mankind>>25020336Brown Muslims need to go back but White ones can stay, all Jews need to be destroyed
>>25020231Daily reminder
>>2502608599.99% of music played today is just garbage noise pollution like niggers blast in public. The rest of music is sublime but most people never listen to it and dislike it
>>25026006Yes, some “Christians” are converso Jews or heretics. Next.
>>25025982Yeah, but only Christianity is true. Meanwhile, you’re a pitiable, contrarian heathen.
>>25026138you're a bad apologist. aren't christians supposed to be loving and humble? and if you're going be all haughty aren't you supposed to be witty?
>>25025982Communism in a nutshell
>>25026138you just repeated my post
