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Why are writers seemingly the only people who can live in ways that completely betray their core ideas and still be taken seriously and have those betrayed ideas lauded?
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>>25020916
Hypocrites are the only people who come up with compelling ideas and express them well. Show me a true believer and I'll show you a boring faggot with not a speck of artistic talent.
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>>25020916
Marx lived as he wanted. He leeched the last of his friends inheritance. But like writers of old, he had his sponsor.
Rand was the hypocrite though.
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you have no actual arguments against their core ideas
chud unc crashing out once again
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>>25020922
Fpbp
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>>25020922
>Show me a true believer and I'll show you a boring faggot with not a speck of artistic talent.
So you just want nice-sounding sophistry with no real substance? You just want theater?
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>>25020916
People who have never read Marx (or who just read the manifesto) assume he was some taliban-style zealot and moral scold who demanded a vow of poverty and not a social critic and historian interested in describing capitalism as it was beginning to come into its current form.
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>>25020916
How was Ayn Rand a hypocrite?
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>>25021501
She took state assistance money in her old age. Never nabbed a rich man and her books didn't pay the bills I guess.

I mean this is the era when teenagers could buy a car and little apartment while delivering pizzas. A colossal failure and hypocrite.
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>>25021445
Of course they do, just content to consume esteemed literature without praxis if it allows them to larp away as high brow contrarian intellectuals on /lit/, and not actually write theory that inspires billions towards egalitarian reforms & revolutions like Marx did
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>>25021510
Ayn Rand never once said you shouldn't claim what you were entitled to as a taxpaying citizen
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>>25021552
Entitled? She felt no one was entitled to it.
This is the logic of a hypocrite
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>>25020916
Writers are liars by trade.
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>>25021600
you're hallucinating things she never said
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>>25021513
Aesthetics are the only trait of value in this world. Begone bugman.
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>>25020922
>Show me a true believer and I'll show you a boring faggot with not a speck of artistic talent.
Lenin was an ardent Marxist and lived his ideals. He was also a talented philosopher and writer.
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>>25021685
Yes, he was very talented at murdering everyone who disagreed with him.
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>>25021469
People who have never read Marx think it's all about social issues when in reality 99% of Marx's work is dry scientific analysis. His personal letters are also pretty funny.
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>>25021689
It's called dabbing on the haters, chudcel. Sorry about admiral Kolchak or whatever lmoa
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>>25020916
Blimey! You want to tell me that jews are ingenuine charlatans that lack ethical prinicpals? This cannot be
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>>25020922
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>>25020922
Hitler
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>>25023132
>Marries a woman
>Biggest (shortest) queer in the orient

I think not
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>>25023140
>queer
How is that liberal arts degree working out for you?
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>>25023147
I meant it in the 1950s dad way. I'm taking it back
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>"They tried to criticize society... and yet they lived in one!
Good argument OP
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>>25020916
>>25020922
Everyone is a hypocrite, DUMMIES.
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>>25023135
You mean the Zionist puppet? Yea his convictions were soooo pure.
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>>25020916
>Why are writers seemingly the only people who can live in ways that completely betray their core ideas and still be taken seriously and have those betrayed ideas lauded?
>post pictures of two Jews
Gee I wonder
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>>25020922
Yukio Mishima lived up to his ideals, Marx was just a fat NEET
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>>25020922
Tony Robbins largely practices what he preaches
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>>25023169
How else are you going to remove such a large population?
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>>25021690
This, dude was more interested in historiography, economic cycles, seemingly contradictory mathematics, and the rise and fall of scientific paradigms. His good ideas were all used by other scientists working in these fields, often with little credit given to him (cuz USSR bad). Marxist/materialist historiography, Kuhnian theory of scientific paradigms, punctuated equilibrium in biology/ecology, economists and marketing specialists essentially agreeing and using commodity fetishism and the superstructure to manipulate modern culture for $$$, let alone Marx' concerns about the metabolic rift and the environmental effects of industry...all of these are concrete changes in these fields whose foundational ideas came from Marx.
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>>25026251
That is true, whereas people think Marx was advocating for gay trans-blax or something equally retarded.
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>>25020916
Because writers are nearly always trust fund or nepo babies who don't have to work or struggle like most people. Their readers are typically the upperclass who are of nearly equal privilege, so lacking a direct confrontation with life or hardship they retreat into a world of ideas that can't be shattered by a harsh reality from which they're estranged. No one has to do anything but posture and everyone maintains their cushy idleness.
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>>25026283
His ideas easily give rise to that, which is why he had to combat feminist activists using his work in his own lifetime. His ideology is pure resentment.
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>>25026441
>His ideology is pure resentment.
It's all analytical. If you are inferring any value judgments from that, it says a lot more about your own personal beliefs.
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A sculptor does not need to look like the statue they are sculpting.
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>pay taxes your entire life
>get the benefits you paid for
wheres the hypocrisy exactly?
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>>25020922
robert graves
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>>25020922
simone weil
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>>25021501
>>25021510

The OP is referring to the old leftist canard* that Rand was a hypocrite because, "contrary" to her hyper-individualistic worldview, she took welfare, or public assistance (that is, government money) later in life.

*The word "canard" is the fancy way of describing a shitty, piss-poor argument. Rand was merely reclaiming that which was stolen from her. Now Marx on the other hand...
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>>25026251
>dude was more interested in historiography, economic cycles, seemingly contradictory mathematics
I was raised in a very conservative household and when I finally read Marx at like 18 I was honestly shocked at what a fucking boogeyman he had been sold to me as. Honestly was a pretty interesting guy with interesting ideas. Idk how his shit broke so many brains.

I disagree with most of what he wrote because I think the idea that history has a direction is retarded (and because the rate of profit is not falling and because LTV has been thoroughly BTFO) but I would have a beer with him



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