>"I continued searching for a job, but I still wasn’t able to find one. I refused all of the jobs that Tony suggested to me. The problem was that most of the jobs that were available to me at the time were jobs I considered to be beneath me. My mother wanted me to get a simple retail job, and the thought of myself doing that was mortifying. It would be completely against my character. I am an intellectual who is destined for greatness. I would never perform a low-class service job.">"My father told me that I could work for his friend Karl Champley for a few weeks, to help him build a staircase in his new house. I knew Karl quite well, for he used to come over to father’s for dinner occasionally. Karl was just finishing up building his new house in Woodland Hills, just a few minutes away from father’s house, and he offered to hire me to help with the staircase.">"I agreed to take this job. Sure, construction work was lowly and laborious, but this was different. This was more like assisting a friend, and it would be in a private environment. It was the perfect temporary job opportunity, and it would most definitely get my mother off my back. I still wasn’t able to drive, so I rode my bicycle there from mother’s house every morning. The trip on the bicycle took 30 minutes. It was grueling to ride a bicycle up that steep winding road every day, but it provided good exercise, which I was in need of. I worked with Karl every weekday for about three weeks. It turned out to be quite a pleasant experience. Karl was very friendly and I enjoyed working with him. When we finished the staircase, which was a spiral staircase that led up to his roof-deck, we took a moment to admire the work we did.">"On my last day working for Karl, I decided to stop by at father’s house to have a drink. I was quite parched from the bicycle ride. I entered the house without knocking because I believed I had the right to. As the eldest son, the house should be my house after my father. Soumaya was surprised to see me, and she got angry that I didn’t knock. To teach me a lesson, she ordered me to go back outside and knock. I refused, telling her that she has no right to order me around anymore. I then helped myself to a glass of water. Soumaya knocked the glass of water out of my hand and it shattered on the floor. Father clamored angrily up the stairs from his office demanding to know what was going on. The three of us had a heated argument, and of course father took Soumaya’s side. They both kicked me out of the house, telling me that I’m not to return. I felt betrayed and humiliated as I furiously made my way back to mother’s house. At that very moment, I hated both of them, and I wouldn’t see either of them for many months. For those months, my father was dead to me. My mother was all I had left in this bleak world."Why do you think Elliot settled on this writing style? It reminds me of A Confederacy of Dunces if it was written in first person.
>>25023312Grow up, he was a demon possessed teenager that commited atrocities. You should not be idolizing him.
>>25023314I'm not, just remembered his book
can our resident jungians psychoanalyze the excerpts?
>>25023312Not bad. Not bad at all. Direct, clear, paced. Way better than most manifestos. Not Ted K. good. Better than the last 15 or so.
>"As I made my way back from school one day during the first week, I was stopped at a stoplight in Isla Vista when I saw two hot blonde girls waiting at the bus stop. I was dressed in one of my nice shirts, so I looked at them and smiled. They looked at me, but they didn’t even deign to smile back. They just looked away as if I was a fool. As I drove away I became very infuriated. It was such an insult. This was the way all girls treated me, and I was sick and tired of it. In a rage, I made a U-turn, pulled up to their bus stop and splashed my Starbucks latte all over them. I felt a feeling a spiteful satisfaction as I saw it stain their jeans. I then quickly speeded away before they could catch my license plate number. How dare those girls snub me in such a fashion! How dare they insult me so! I raged to myself repeatedly. They deserved the punishment I gave them. It was such a pity that my latte wasn’t hot enough to burn them. Those girls deserved to be dumped in boiling water for the crime of not giving me the attention and adoration I so rightfully deserve! This incident soured my first week of college, but for the sake of all of my hopes and dreams, I tried to forget about it."It's such a weird writing style for a ~23-year-old guy from southern California.
>>25023312>It would be completely against my character. I am an intellectual who is destined for greatness. I would never perform a low-class service job.That's where he fucked up. It's not that he's not humble, but unless they stick you in the back loading boxes or cleaning up, retail teaches you to interact with people. Hot chicks won't sneer at you if you're awkward, and you can eventually become more sociable.
>>25023312I made exactly this point about him two weeks ago in response to the the “study’s show!” Fag despite never having seen anything he ever posted.The incel is the (self) tortured soul that refuses to close the gap between the ego and ego. He could get a gf but he will only date 8/10s, despite refusing to pay the price for which an 8/10 is bought by a man who is 5’4” (regular exercise, personal hygiene, social conformity, deferential role in relationships)
>>25023436Ego ideal*
I think he writes like this because he was a maniac who read one too many novels about fictional maniacs >>25023413No kidding. Stick this guy on a register for a week and eventually a cute girl would smile back at him and compliment his hair or something.
>>25023344You could not have written a more perfect incel character than ER
>>25023312>Why do you think Elliot settled on this writing style?Because he was a psychopath.
>"In August 2012, Rodger's father gave him The Secret by Rhonda Byrne, a self-help book that promotes the law of attraction. Motivated by its principles, Rodger spent a month meditating in his bedroom, imagining himself walking through a park alongside a beautiful woman.[41][43][86] The following month, Rodger broke his laptop computer in rage after failing to win a $120 million Mega Millions jackpot."Even the most skilled writer could not conceive a plot like this.
>>25023312Well, I guess I'll just start killing people.
I work as a dishwasher
>>25024122Wow, a post from a dishwasher.The Internet of Things has arrived.
>>25024093it reads like a very fine novel
Why did he do it?
>>25024414unironically it was his neglectful parents fault
>>25024414he heard chad fucking his sister
>>25024421That is why my life sucks tooIts all my parents fault. Fucking useless cunts
>>25023312 (OP)Society has really let us down. The smart, sensitive young man sort should be ushered into society with promising jobs where he can meet important people and learn useful things.This system has broken down. Now you have to follow a very narrow college career ass kissing hustling trajectory. Or else you find yourself out on the street. Where you can apply on indeed for a retail job with the rest of the bums.It's the same for courtship. There should be systems in place to introduce the better sorts of young men and women and get them together.But instead, if you miss the very narrow opportunities in school, you wind up out in the cold with the rest, either using tinder or maybe going the route of harassing random strangers on the street. Basically the dating equivalent of applying for retail jobs on indeed.The point is there should be systems in place that do all these things. Society has completely let us down. It is supposed to identify young people with promise and help bring them into its leadership and set them up to be the next leaders of society. Eliot was completely right about a lot of things. But he failed on the stoicism side. He could not put his ego aside or deal with reality as it was, in its shitty imperfect state.
>>25023312it is quite good honestly. mogs 99% of zoomies today
>>25024641ya ppl will hate but that shit is fire ngl
>>25023366like a Bret Easton Ellis narrator or somethin
>>25024388lol
>>25023312>"On my last day working for Karl, I decided to stop by at father’s house to have a drink. I was quite parched from the bicycle ride. I entered the house without knocking because I believed I had the right to. As the eldest son, the house should be my house after my father. Soumaya was surprised to see me, and she got angry that I didn’t knock. To teach me a lesson, she ordered me to go back outside and knock. I refused, telling her that she has no right to order me around anymore. I then helped myself to a glass of water. Soumaya knocked the glass of water out of my hand and it shattered on the floor. Father clamored angrily up the stairs from his office demanding to know what was going on. The three of us had a heated argument, and of course father took Soumaya’s side. They both kicked me out of the house, telling me that I’m not to return. I felt betrayed and humiliated as I furiously made my way back to mother’s house. At that very moment, I hated both of them, and I wouldn’t see either of them for many months. For those months, my father was dead to me. My mother was all I had left in this bleak world."Yeah, I kinda feel bad for him here (and here only). It is basically saying he doesn't belong there. Things must have been strained with his parents, or his parents were narcissists (which rubbed off on Elliot, who is the biggest narcissist I have ever seen.
>>25025048there was an interview with his father about some movie he was making on a french african tv station or whatever and they asked him if he had any regrets in life and he was like "nope" lol he didn't care
>>25025048walking into a house without knocking or making the people inside aware that you are there is totally unhinged though
>>25025105If I walked into my parents house unannounced, and waited until they discovered me as a sort of gag, they would be ecstatic to see me.I don't have tons in this life, but I do have loving parents and a sister. I get that all families are different, but I feel bad for kids who basically feel unwelcome in their parent's home.
>>25025060lol, sounds about right.
>>25025105it's his dad's house where he lived man
>>25025122>>25025125true but his dad is living with another woman who may not feel comfortable around himit's strange to just let yourself in, also he didn't do it as a joke he did it because he felt he was entitled to do it
>>25025127if my dad sided with his insane live in prostitute I'd flip out too>he was entitled to do ithe lived there
>>25025127>>25025130Guys, are you really discussing this while you have SO much work left to do? You know what I’m talking about. Both of you.
>>25025156ive been studying japanese language every day tho
>>25025156WTF? Stop cyberstalking me.
>>25023314this isn't enough. I want an incel sperg version of picrel.
The guy had a pathological inability to see himself as others perceived him. The best part of the manifesto is the either the intro:"Humanity… All of my suffering on this world has been at the hands of humanity, particularly women."Or the segment where he gets his ass handed to him at the party because of his total inability to parse social cues.
>>25025256my biggest problem with that statement is the fact its presumed as some sort of problem to be overcame. do you ever stop and think maybe overt perception of others is actually the problem?
>>25025259They were quite right to perceive this guy as a freak given his actions. Get your head out of your ass and get down to the work of healing your inner child wood.
>>25025125hey, what do we know about the uncle that lived with them for a long time? he and ER's dad must have been bff. it was kind of sad when he moved away
>>25025259And regardless of whether they liked or disliked him he literally couldn't tell. Not normal!
>>25024056Before reading Elliot I wrote a book in first person. Read Elliot after the first draft and it almost gave up on it because the vibe and tone was so similar. Eventually came to see that my book still had merit. The character is not an incel or a loser when it comes to women but I thought it was more or less representative of a kind of modern American manhood, and the incel problem is more universal than people admit. Hope to have it published some day soon.
>>25025127I cant imagine any of my relatives being upset if I just turned up and entered their home, either because they left it wide open or because I had a key, even if she was like haha maybe knock next time, thought someone was in here stealing shit, making him go outside to "do it properly" is something you only do when you absolutely despise someone and knocking a glass cup onto the floor is fucking retarded, especially when its your cup, at worst him entering the house unannounced is a bit of an awkward situation while her actions can't be read as anything other than "I fucking hate you and am just going to do shit to piss you off for no reason", elliot is very rarely anything other than completely wrong and stupid but hes fine in this situation
>>25025298Anon >>25024421 is right. Not that poor Elliot ever had a chance of being a good person, character is destiny. But I couldn't imagine having psycho relatives like that.
if he had any self-awareness he would've given up on the whole "become God and genocide roasties" thing and became a writer. he could've pulled mad art hoes and booktok bitches. even a nerd like DFW was knee deep in gash, Elliot would definitely've gotten play. actual MK-Ultra psycho-sexual sadist murder-rape guys with 30 fucking people in their floorboards have bitches writing them in prison. literally anybody can score. he just had to turn his contempt for broads into something productive. that's his great failure.
>>25025347>muh bitches and hoes nigga fammin cuh bro
>>25025418syfm playa hating ass nigga
>>25025298his dad knocked up a gook, the gook stole as much from him as possible, his gook son was a spoiled brat and would flip out at not being given everything for free, the new wife wanted nothing to do with the old skank or the bastard adult son, the dad was sick of the bastards shit too. antifamily courts separate children from their fathers intentionally to destroy the children. if the bastard had the self awareness to kill the right people instead of the people who were immediately not giving him what he wanted then he could have gotten what he wanted anyway
>>25024440Unironically true, this must have mindbroken him. Elliot's sister is to blame for his full descent into madness. One imagines the rest of awkward, traumatizing experiences he lived were not enough to drive him into insanity, they are fairly normal, at best he would've ended up a cynical loser and like some anon here suggests a writer. The thought, however, of his OWN family getting fucked (literally) by whom he deemed were at fault of every evil in his life, must have never left his psyche. You can laugh off the cringe interactions with girls during your youth, but not hearing your own sister getting dicked down putting down your self-esteem.
>>25026661>uhhh he went CRAZY cuz his sitter had sex with guys!Ridiculous, distributed nerve sensory neuron cluster with no CNS, bug IQed post.>a sensitive young man from a broken home needs a job>it just so happens that the only job he is willing to take involves an older male he has known from an early developmental period.>he takes the job, and begins to exit his shell, rejoining society, exercising, contributing>the young man in doing so finally receives attention and time of day from older male role model, doing father son things building a staircase>on the last day of this relationship, immediately after it ends, when he is forced to part ways with this new surrogate father, he just so happens to require a glass of water which can only be gotten at his biological fathers house>in his moment of desperation for the presence of a parent under the guise of procuring high quality h2o, he is attacked, berated, and thrown out onto the street.I am sure his entire childhood was a series of unfortunate events like this at the hands of his parents.Does this excuse him from being a cowardly turbofaggot that killed a bunch of innocent people? Does it justify it? No.He is in hell, or he will be placed in hell at the final tallying when the simulation ends, or he used his brief finite existence among fellow finite sufferers to increase suffering.But it does explain it.
>>25023312I give it 4 roiling oceans out of 5!>>25023344I'm always disappointed reading people's manifestos. The genre has so much potential, but most of them are very obviously afterthoughts. Or perhaps rather, I think, people walk around and have all these loosely structured thoughts about politics and philosophy and so on, but once the time comes for them to act on their beliefs and shoot up a sorority, actually committing their ideas to writing turns out to be a lot harder than they were counting on. That's how you get trash like Brenton Tarrant's where it's ten pages of ironic internet memes padded out with song lyrics and pictures of Sam Hyde so the PDF will say 90 pages and not look so pathetic. The ones that are genuine manifestos, where the crime comes second, are usually shorter and more obviously nuts like Kyle Odom's. Often they're just diaries. That's what makes My Twisted World so special. Even if Elliot hadn't acted on his plans, his little autobiography still would have been interesting reading. It's a good length, he clearly has something to say, and his story is really unique with his family ties to Hollywood, attending the Phantom Menace premiere, spending a small fortune to win the Powerball, the saga of his heirloom gold necklace, etc.
