Have there are been any works with a well-written racist character? Every book with a racist character has one of three characteristics:>becomes not racist at the end or at least gains a newfound respect for them>is white or militant black>uses slurs>is seen as a "bad guy" because he's racistHas it ever occurred to any writer in the last 100 years that you can be racist but not an asshole? I think I'm superior to my dog but I don't intentionally cause him harm or call him names.
>>25034313any book written before 1945
>>25034313>that you can be racist but not an assholethis is in fact not possible
>>25034313Read any book written by the chinese
>>25034313Racism implies an emotional element of hate. You don’t hate dogs.
>>25034313My diary nigga
>>25034315We live in a female-coded universe. Brutal honestly is seen as bad. Wish people could just be less sensitive.
>>25034367Literature has always been the domain of the sensitive
>>25034314I'm becoming convinced this is the case.
>>25034313> Ferric Jaggar mounted the platform. A swastika of flame twenty feet high stood out in glory against the night sky behind him, bathing him in heroic firelight, flashing highlights off the brightwork of his gleaming black leather uniform, setting his powerful eyes ablaze.> “I hold in my hand the Great Truncheon of Held. I dedicate myself to the repurification of all Heldon with blood and iron, and to the extension of the dominion of True Humanity over the face of the entire Earth! Never will we rest until the last mutant gene is swept from the face of the planet!”
>>25034313Yeah, just read you some pre 1960’s stuff. Pretty much like this anon says>>25034314Last 9 out of 10 books I’ve read said nigger or had some joke about niggers in them (authors: Graham Greene, and Evelyn Waugh, but even Chesterton dropped a “nigger” in the Everlasting Man). I don’t expect to come across a “nigger” reading Dead Souls, simply because there are no niggers in Russia, but I’m hoping for a surprise >:)
>>25034481Just following up with an example of a joke from Brideshead Revisited. You can see how it’s racist but not hateful. If you’re looking for a more modern racist author, I’d recommend good ol’ Corncob.
>>25034509>You can see how it’s racist but not hateful.lmfao do you genuinely not understand that "nigger" is being used contemptuously as an object of disgust/revulsion in that phrase? Waugh's not using it as a synonym for "black" (or "negro," or "colored," whatever he would've said) on purpose. that's what makes the joke land. it's not "you are humorously acting as if my skin tone is black, but in fact, as you can see, my skin tone is white, ha!" it's "when you say 'mixed' I am humorously implying to the reader that this character thinks that this other character is saying they're vile, disgusting, socially unacceptable." I thought this was the /lit/erature board, I shouldn't have to explain Waugh to you like you're a 10th grader.
>>25034313Lovecraft or Robert E. Howard.
>>25034313Also Mishima.
>>25034530>Waugh's not using it as a synonym for "black" (or "negro," or "colored," whatever he would've said) on purpose. that's what makes the joke land.No way, are you shitting me?
>>25034530Disdaining a mixed marriage is not hateful, but it is racist. You sound like a touchy, nigger (synonym for black).
>>25034313Major Duane Marvy.
>>25034313wakka from ffx
>>25034662Like I said>do you genuinely not understand that "nigger" is being used contemptuously as an object of disgust/revulsion>You sound like a touchy, niggerLearn to use commas. You sound like a retarded, ESL
>>25035197Like I said comma you sound like a touchy nigger period Work on that period Also comma learn to read critically period
>>25035234>I know! I'll pretend to use speech to text so he'll think I'm retarded!>He'll look so foolish for believing my flawless impression of a retard!Fascinating
>>25035244He can use a comma there if he wants, you illiterate nigger.
>>25034313If you're too incurious to move past the vile maxim the odds you'll produce a compelling piece of literature are slim. It's why the culture war racial resentment media sphere is a lint roller for failed creative types.
>>25034531>>25034535What characters do you have in mind?
>>25034530>"nigger" is being used contemptuously as an object of disgust/revulsion in that phraseYou are a modernity brained retard.
>>25034313Shakespeare's OthelloAlmost every character other than the titular Moor himself is "racist", but specifically Iago since he is my favourite character out of every Shakespeare play.
>>25037003All of them. Racist people don't spend all day thinking about how racist they are
>>25034313Basically every good character before 1900.Different races aren’t equal. They have mutually exclusive group strategies and “inclusion” invariantly just means allowing out-group members to parasitize the in-group. Race is a physical-biological construct emergent from different groups adapting to different environmental constraints over time.https://youtu.be/FMJR3w-31S4
>>25037817In a great many cases this is simply not true.
>>25034530question. why is it not only permissible but brave and stronk to say cracker/cornbread/timmy etc etc and so on and so forth. But one little nigger, and you're just the spawn of satan. surely, there is no agenda afoot.
Go set a watchmen
>>25034332>Can't even spell niggerYeah I doubt it.
>>25034403he's so based
>>25034313>ctrl + f "Tom Sawyer"
>>25034313Haven't you heard? All white people are racist.>>25039071Because whites thought letting others insult them was good humour when really it normalised their abuse in zoomer friend circles. Nobody likes punching bags.>>25037896My views are a bit more syncretic than this. Ethnicity is ancestral, linguistic, religious, spatial, and cultural. Superiority isn't easy to quantify, but you should have pride and ingroup bias anyway, because others will do the same and it clearly became widespread through benefits to fitness. "Leftists" are just a mix of suicidal whites and brown ethnocentrists in a weak position.
>>25034313I'd argue Quentin in Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury. A young man that is a doomed leftover of the confederate south, fallen out of time, a walking shade. He comes from a wealthy but now degenerated slave estate, stuck in the fantasies of aristocracy, incest, and death. Clearly racist not in the sort of hateful, pathetic way of modern racists (like his brother Jason), but rather, due to the climate in which he was raised, in how he just presumes all black people are to be obedient servants to which he must act as a kindly master.
>>25034691That shit is hilarious playing for the first time this year.
>>25040358I was thinking of Faulkner as well. His fiction is an accurate portrayal of Mississippi and his characters aren’t “good” or “bad” based solely on racial attitudes.
